Just in case there are still one or two who don't know this, please understand: when a Republican

[Atticus]

urges "bipartisanship", they mean "do it our way!" When they are not in the minority, they sneer at the very mention of bipartisanship and call us "snowflakes" while reminding us that "elections have consequences!"

The current Republican covid aid proposal of LESS THAN A THIRD of the Biden bill should be characterized as nothing more than a nicely worded "Screw you!" to the MAJORITY who voted for Joe.

Carry on.

[lark]

1. Hope Biden listens politely, tells them in nicer language to get on the bus or get off.

He needs to make crystal clear - There is no 2nd bus where repugs get their own policies passed even when in the minority - none whatsoever.

[thucythucy]

2. Pass the Biden plan NOW.

If we lose one Senate seat for any reason whatsoever we go back to Moscow Mitch as the arbiter of all that happens in Congress.

Two years from now no one will give a damn how the bill was passed. All that will matter is that it is (or is not) working.

Slicing it down like this pretty much guarantees we lose the majority in the House in 2022, and then watch all the calls for "bipartisanship" vanish into thin air.

The Democrats in the Senate represent the overwhelming majority of the American people. That two Senators from Wyoming have the power to negate the Senators from California is an obscene holdover from the 18th century, and an insult to the very concept of a representative democracy.

Pass the plan now.

[lastlib]

12. Yes! Joe should tell the QGOP to just take a hike,

and go forward with his plan. Save the country--screw the QGOP. Why would we think they are any more interested in helping the country now than they were a month ago (or multiple months ago), when they and their Dear Leader AnusMouth DID NOTHING!

[Bernardo de La Paz]

22. Your acronym inspired me to create another one

GQP = Grand Qook Party

Greedy Qooky People

[reACTIONary]

31. +10 nt

[lastlib]

32. .

Noice!

[calimary]

40. Like ALL of these!

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We should verbally laminate them to the QAnon Quackery.

Reminds me of that old saying: “if the shoe fits, wear it.” Except NOW, it’s “if the Q fits, wear it!”

[zentrum]

42. This works!

[KPN]

13. +++

[aggiesal]

17. The Democrats in the Senate represent the overwhelming majority of the American people. ...

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Want to know by how much?

50 (D) Senators received 20M more votes than the 50 (R) Senators.

Biden should shut the bus door and drive off.

Changed 40M to 20M. See my Post #41 below, for explanation.

[Bernardo de La Paz]

23. Most excellent point. This needs to become very widely knonwn and frequently mentioned. THANKS! . nt

[aggiesal]

37. The shame of it all is that people don't pay attention to politics ...

When the (R)'s controlled the House during the 1st half of Pendejo45's administration,
the (D)'s in the house also had more election votes than the (R)'s, even with less members!

This is the gerrymandering effect.

No doubt in my mind that if the 2 Georgia (D) Senators had lost,
the (D) with 48 members would still have 40M more votes than the 52 (R) members.

[aggiesal]

41. I had heard the 40M number on some TV news report and I took it as accurate. ...

Wanting to be accurate, I decided to pull the actual vote numbers and here is what I found.

There are 50 (R) Senators. Adding up their total votes is 63,745,827 votes
There are 48 (D) Senators. Adding up their total votes is 83,224,682 votes
48 (D) received 19,478,855 more votes than 50 (R).
(R) 43.37%
(D) 56.63% (+13.25%)

If we include the 2 (I) that caucus with the (D),
48 (D) & 2 (I) received 20,007,079 more votes than 50 (R).
(R) 42.22%
(D) 56.78% (+13.56%)

Still 20,000,000 is a ton of votes.

Also, I noticed that some counties in the U.S. have more voters then both North Dakota & Alaska Senators
ND. Hoeven 268,788 votes in 2016 election
ND. Cramer 170,720 votes in 2018 election

AK. Murkowski 138,149 votes in 2016
AK. Sullivan 191,112 votes in 2020

LA County alone has more voters than 41 of 50 (R) individual Senators votes.
Feinstein received 1,565,167 votes in 2018 from LA County alone.
She would have won against 41 Senator in a Head-to-Head election just from LA County votes.

That shows how much LA County in under-represented in the Senate.

[Bernardo de La Paz]

50. Thanks for looking it up. Maybe need some Senators-at-large to redress the balance. . . . nt

[BobTheSubgenius]

28. Or close it on them and hope to drag a few along.

It's the only way they'll get there.

[Dark n Stormy Knight]

33. Agreed. With urgency. In the current climate,

I fear assassination of one or more Democrats. I'm sorry to say it, but they broke into our Capitol and intended to hang Mike Pence and to murder Nancy Pelosi, among others.

And, of course, a more mundane loss could occur.

And, as you say, the ridiculous situation that favors the election of & bestows disproportionate power upon Rs means Democrats must act boldly and and swiftly when they can.

That means now.

[Springerjjhicka]

53. People need significant help

No time to be penny pinching

[Walleye]

3. Until they start calling us the Democratic Party, we will know they are insincere and dishonest

[RussellCattle]

18. Oh my god, yes! Whenever Mitch uses "Democrat Party" when complaining about the lack...

....of unity, it just makes me crazy. At the very least call him on that, then tell him "thank you very much, fuck you very much".

[Walleye]

21. Mitch will say democratic when he speaking on the floor, to keep the record accurate,I guess.

But he will insult us every chance you get in interviews. Fuck them. it’s a simple thing. Shouldn’t be that hard to show the least amount of respect possible by getting our name right. Of course they still can’t pronounce Kamala.

[Bernardo de La Paz]

24. Also, until they say "Biden is President. He won an accurate count. The Steal was a lie." . . . nt

[Walleye]

26. Yes absolutely. They have to come out and say Trump was lying about it and they push the lie.

We do not negotiate with terrorists

[Bernardo de La Paz]

27. Let's have interviewers interrupt CONS whenever they say that, especially when

... especially when they are making pious statements about the need for bipartisanship.

Senator: "The country could be more unified if the Democrat Party would only..."

Interviewer: "Hold it, Senator! How can you have bipartisanship if you use an insulting name for the people you claim you want to work together with?"

...

CongressCritter: "The Democrats signalled they didn't want bipartisanship when they put a socialist at the top in Kam-ell-a Harris who ..."

Interviewer: "Just one minute, Mr {red state rep}. You wont get unity until you start respecting Democrats enough to pronounce their names properly. It's 'comma-lah'. It's an easy step."

[Laelth]

44. +1 n/t

-Laelth

[LazySusanNot]

4. I agree. We've seen all this before.

Rinse. Repeat. Over and over year after year. It's obvious what their plan is to those paying attention.
Soooo, we're supposed to meet in the middle with a party who's currently standing over an abyss? How's that going to work....

Thanks for posting.
Watching this unfold has kept me on a slow boil. Grrrr.

[Wounded Bear]

5. Sounds like the plan Repubs are proposing is a rehash of the Dec bill...

which everybody was screaming was inadequate. Biden is playing nice, but in the end it isn't really his decision. Madame Speaker and the Senate Majority Leader will put up the final bill, which will probably look a whole heluva lot like the Biden plan put forth last week.

Biden can apply pressure on Pelosi and Schumer, though I doubt he will pressure them to destroy his own proposal.

[aggiesal]

19. The (R)'s are standing on a high wire over the middle of the Grand Canyon ...

with the (D) watching from both sides, and the (R) are saying,
"Come join us. We can save you."

[I_UndergroundPanther]

45. I'd just push them off the wire

Saying fuckyou,and fuck you,and fuck you in particular...fuck all y'all..

[Harker]

6. Yep.

It's a word that magically appears in their vocabulary only when in the minority.

[flibbitygiblets]

7. Pellucidly clear, Malaise!

[dalton99a]

8. Republicans passed their 2017 tax heist on a 51-49 vote.

[Turin_C3PO]

9. You nailed it.

[HariSeldon]

10. I think the appropriate response is to beef up Biden's plan

Especially throw in punitive taxes for the wealthy and explain (behind closed doors) that this is being done because of their offensive offer. Then use partial rollbacks of those taxes as carrots for Republicans to not filibuster other Democratic priorities in the Senate. We've got to play big-league hardball, especially if they've already spit in the hand Biden held out.

[Jon King]

11. Agreed, Dems must lead with borderline arrogance...

It is what it is, people want results, they do not mind nastiness. Reality TV, the internet, people are way less worried about manners and procedure and norms these days. Biden and the Dems need to call the Repub plan utter garbage, give Manchin whatever he wants, and pass the full $1.9 trillion.

There will be plenty of screaming and yelling by the right but who cares. Most voters these days won't care in the end how the results were achieved.

I pray Biden does not think this is 20 years ago. The rules have changed, his old friends are now part of a cult.

[housecat]

34. well put

[cp]

14. And anyway, shouldn't they be negotiating with Dems in Congress?

Not the president.
That's the reveal that it's not about negotiating, just publicity.

[iluvtennis]

15. Well stated Atticus - totally agree with you. nt

[aggiesal]

16. Exactly, (R)'s compromise is ...

You do it our (R) way and you (D) accept & agree to do it our (R) way.
See, we just compromised.

[CTyankee]

20. I'm at an age where I don't mince words. I don't look for a fight, I don't start a fight, but when I

I'm pushed up to a wall I fight back verbally. I'm not insulting. I am honest.

[OldBaldy1701E]

46. I agree

I also do not start fights. But I have been known to finish a few.

[theneworiginal]

25. Unity means Capitulation

Elections have consequences. Biden is unified with the electorate, the majority of whom voted for his platform. Bipartisanship would mean that the minority would look past their party to unite under the President.

For Biden to achieve "republican" bipartisanship, he would have to:
abandon the majority of voters to appeal to the RW Lunatic Fringe
ignore the valid results of the Presidential election
abandon science and common sense
and ignore the Democratic party which the voters willfully put in control of the House and Senate to carry out their values and politics


Or, the R's can take their own advice and carry out the will of the people by getting aboard the Biden train. If not, it's leaving the station without them. Joe has already shown that.

[LazySusanNot]

29. K n R for the one or two...

[BobTheSubgenius]

30. All of these sensible, correct, small "P political" points where the GOP fails to give...

...even a minimal standard of respect, and I doubt they ever will. Unless somehow beaten into such a minority position that they have the Legislative power of a pile of floor sweepings.

[Fritz Walter]

35. "This is a big fucking deal!"

Pres. Biden should use the same words that he used when Obamacare passed. In this case, get the Repukes in a room behind closed doors, and 'splain things to them in terms they can understand, in a voice so strong that it scares the shit out of them.

Given the current state of our economy, the overwhelming challenges American families face every day, he should not mince words. "This. Is. A. Big. Fucking. Deal!"

[Mabel]

36. I'm soooo over Republicans

That party has lost all credibility with me and I don't care what they claim or say as it's either not the truth or somehow skewed to fit their narrative. Until they gain a little morality, common sense and person responsibility, steam roll them as much as possible.

[virgdem]

38. Exactly.

This so- called proposal is an insult to all Americans who desperately need this bill to pass.

[soldierant]

39. Illustration of Republican Bipartisanship

[Beartracks]

43. Why should we accommodate the ones who fucked everything up in the first place?

Asking for a nation.

=======

[Brother Mythos]

47. I already knew, but thanks for the reminder.

Some things never change, and Republican politicians definitely fall into that category.

[Blue Owl]

48. K&R

[UCmeNdc]

49. Agree

[Ligyron]

51. Polls show 70% of the American public fully support its'passage.

I'll bet the most popular part will be the money and if Joe and the Dems get them 2K they are going to remember that for a long time and it will be hard for the pukes to disparage it. Negotiate down to their 600 or anything less than 1200 and in 3.5 years the pukes will correctly point out that Trump got them more than Biden ever did, re elect him, MAGA!

I do think people making over 200K probably don't need or care much about it so some money could be saved there.

Meanwhile, I still haven't got my 600.

[Springerjjhicka]

54. I support the Biden package

but there needs to be a cut off

[Buckeye_Democrat]

52. Yes, you nailed it.

[LiberalFighter]

55. Romney was part of the Republican 10.