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The congresswomans decision on whether to challenge New York's senior senator may hinge on how he wields the new Democratic majority.
By HOLLY OTTERBEIN
02/01/2021 04:30 AM EST
Just a few weeks after a group of young climate activists, accompanied by Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, orchestrated a highly publicized sit-in in House Speaker Nancy Pelosis office in late 2018, their Sunrise Movement received an unexpected email from Chuck Schumers staff.
Could the rabble-rousers meet with the then-Senate minority leader? He wanted to talk to them about his agenda if Democrats ever won back the Senate, which included tackling climate change, democracy reform, and economic and racial inequality. Before long, his team was asking for their support on a clean cars proposal.
Schumers outreach was likely no coincidence. New York, the veteran senators home state, is the epicenter of the progressive movements efforts to oust incumbent Democrats in Congress. And Schumer, who is up for reelection in 2022, has been taking steps both publicly and privately to steel himself from a left-wing primary challenge especially from his biggest threat, Ocasio-Cortez.
At the time of the meeting, Ocasio-Cortez was fresh off her stunning primary upset victory. She hadnt even been sworn into office yet. But in the two years since then, Schumer has thrown his weight behind a plan to cancel student loan debt by executive order. He's voted against the United States-Mexico-Canada Agreement. Hes said nothing is off the table when it comes to eliminating the filibuster. And thats only a fraction of the progressive moves hes made in recent years. It still hasnt inoculated him from the possibility of a primary.
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Wounded Bear
(58,654 posts)She'd be better served doing her present job and look into running for Gillibrand's seat when it comes up.
monmouth4
(9,705 posts)empedocles
(15,751 posts)Dem4Life1102
(3,974 posts)She won re-election with the highest percentage of any Democratic Senator in the country as well as in New York State.
radius777
(3,635 posts)IMO, Gillibrand can easily be defeated in a primary, as (fair or unfair) the base does not like her. AOC could win the primary as she is loved by the base and will garner the support of PoC and immigrant groups. Any Dem who wins the primary would win the general election.
Dem4Life1102
(3,974 posts)which was after Franken. Sure she didnt do well running for President but neither did Harris, Warren or Sanders. All of whom called for Sanders to resign.
lagomorph777
(30,613 posts)Schumer is wise to pay some attention and find common ground. It's a win-win for Americans and the party.
still_one
(92,190 posts)outside her district
The reason she wont challenge Schumer is because she is politically astute to realize she wouldnt be able to win a statewide election
It would be interesting to see how she would do if she ran for Mayor of NY. I am skeptical she could would be successful there also, but that would be the office she should try first. That would determine if she had a chance in a statewide election
Turin_C3PO
(13,991 posts)chance in the future when she gets more experience under her belt. As it stands now, I agree that she could very well lose to a Republican in the general if she defeats Schumer in a primary. It would be close but I think shed lose.
still_one
(92,190 posts)needs more experience, but I think running for Mayor of NY city would be the best indicator how much traction she has outside her district
In my view this Op Ed speculation has no merit. She isnt going to challenge Schumer in the next election
Turin_C3PO
(13,991 posts)Demsrule86
(68,576 posts)one of the biggest cities in the world? AOC is smart and talented but she needs experience at this point.
still_one
(92,190 posts)district, and to add that she identifies herself as a Democratic socialist, which I believe would make any statewide or national election very difficult for her to win
brush
(53,778 posts)A relatively inexperienced rep. from a deep blue district she can't lose in going against the Senate Majority leader in a state that is not all deep blue?
I think not
Turin_C3PO
(13,991 posts)I'm not very familiar with NY politics. Bottom line is that she should remain in the House.
Retrograde
(10,136 posts)and spend some time in all the counties in New York - even the deep red ones.
There's a strong belief in upstate New York (at least according to my politically active relatives there) that it's just a money source for New York City and downstate politicians show up just to fundraise and ask for votes. I was actually surprised the other day to hear Schumer mention Buffalo, that's how little attention the rest of the state usually gets. And AOC is viewed as a quintessential NYCer - which is fine for someone in the House who should be focusing on her district. Name recognition aside, she has a ways to go to convince the rest of the state she'd be good for them.
At this point in her career I don't see her as being successful as mayor of NYC: there are a lot of factions to juggle, as well as the usual challenges of running a city with the population of a good-sized country.
Dem4Life1102
(3,974 posts)This is a media manufactured story.
bigtree
(85,996 posts)...this is designed for people who've made it their mission to divide Democrats.
Flamebait designed as legitimate reporting. Politico= flamebait for Democrats.
MrsCoffee
(5,801 posts)Im not playing coy or anything like that. Im still very much in a place where Im trying to decide what is the most effective thing I can do to help our Congress, our [political] process, and our country actually address the issues of climate change, health care, wage inequality, etc., she told the newly launched publication Punchbowl in an exclusive interview.
Mariana
(14,857 posts)AOC has never said she was thinking about running against Schumer. She just declined to answer a question about it. The rest is all speculation.
MrsCoffee
(5,801 posts)She didn't exactly decline to answer. She said she was indecisive.
I guess that's one kind of speculation.
Mariana
(14,857 posts)She didn't even address that particular question about Schumer. So, the poster is correct. AOC has never said she was thinking about running against Schumer.
Mariana
(14,857 posts)That's obviously because, as you said, AOC has never said she was thinking about running against Schumer.
former9thward
(32,006 posts)Speaking to Punchbowl News in an interview to mark the launch of its flagship newsletter, Ocasio-Cortez (D-NY) explained that she had not made a decision on whether she would challenge Schumer (D-NY), who will be up for re-election in 2022.
Im a no bt kind of person. Im not playing coy or anything like that, she told the outlet.
Asked by the outlet whether the Senate minority leader was doing a good job, Ocasio-Cortez declined to give a yes or no answer.
https://nypost.com/2021/01/04/aoc-wont-rule-out-primary-challenge-against-chuck-schumer/
Dem4Life1102
(3,974 posts)And there is still no direct quote where she says shes considering it.
former9thward
(32,006 posts)The link is in the story. Are you saying they both made it up? If so, why hasn't AOC called them out?
Dem4Life1102
(3,974 posts)where AOC states that she is considering running for Senate?
former9thward
(32,006 posts)By the laws of English grammar that means she is considering it.
Dem4Life1102
(3,974 posts)Please show the exact quote where she says that she has not ruled out running against Schumer for Senate.
And it is not the law of English grammar, it is the laws of the media spin machine.
former9thward
(32,006 posts)Do you have those standards for the countless other tweets that are put on DU on a daily basis? If so, why have you not attacked them? Since they are in the news AOC would have denied them if they were not true. This is a blog or tweet machine that AOC supports.
Dem4Life1102
(3,974 posts)Either show the exact quote where she says shes thinking about running against Schumer in a primary or admit that its just media spin.
former9thward
(32,006 posts)I will await AOC claiming it was "media spin".
Dem4Life1102
(3,974 posts)where she states she is considering running against Schumer in a primary? Your whole argument is based on what she hasn't said. That is like saying that since Neil Armstrong never denied the moon landing was faked, it must have been.
TheBlackAdder
(28,195 posts).
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Dem4Life1102
(3,974 posts)former9thward
(32,006 posts)There is an online blog, which AOC supports, in the link where she interviewed. Did they make it up?
Mariana
(14,857 posts)Not a paraphrase like at the link you posted, but a quote of the actual question and the entire answer. I looked for video, audio, or transcript of the interview itself, and I can't find it. If you have a link to it that would be great.
former9thward
(32,006 posts)Mariana
(14,857 posts)If you have a link to the interview itself, or even to a clip or a quote of the complete question and answer about running against Schumer, that would be great.
former9thward
(32,006 posts)Tweets are put on DU all of the time with no one questioning them. I have no ability to go behind the scenes of an interview. I am sure AOL would have criticized them if they were not true since they are out in the news.
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)Always. In every era. Without fail. The bigger the majority power, the bigger the advances.
It makes sense that Ocasio feinting at his senate seat would affect HOW Schumer presented what he was doing to the public, because it's critical that as many NYers understand as possible. But that it would cause significant change in goals does not. Schumer is a lifelong progressive liberal, and everything's in our party platform and dedicated goals.
In 2018 we got control of the house and passed hundreds of bills there, and now that we have enough power in the senate Schumer is acting on them and other senate bills that McConnell blocked.
Btw, I'm disgusted that this puffery of the power of the left's illiberal faction actually quoted that lying anti-Democrat Chakrabarti claiming credit for Democratic Party actions, while it completely failed to point out that making allies of every possible faction, including the Sunrise Movement, is what party leaders do.
Chakrabarti's illiberal left faction is not possible. They oppose the Democratic Party in all situations. That's both their identity and reason for existence.
brush
(53,778 posts)because of his proposed controversial moves against Dem incumbents in other states?
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)the very institution his new "boss" had just been elected to.
His dissident group(s) got her elected, and he and the other guy she brought to DC seemed to be having a little trouble with the power shift from them to her.
She let them go not just after a bunch of her new colleagues complained angrily about them (enemies in the house) but very soon after Chakrabarti announced that they might not have her run for reelection, depending.
Her continued connection with these types says very bad things to me. But it's also probable that she'd be afraid to cut it even if she wanted. Their media operation got her elected and turned against her might well take her down.
brush
(53,778 posts)He seems to be arrogant and pissed that he's not in the driver's seat anymore over AOC. So she can't completely cut ties with him, or risk his group turning against her?
That's not a good situation to be in.
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)her national following, who keep the money flowing to her and are also the air under her national media coverage wings -- but who can't vote. And her illiberal left supporters are already unhappy with her for playing to both sides of the ideological fence; they thrill to denunciations of the Democratic Party and demand more.
She's swimming in their money, though, so not the worst position to be in either.
brush
(53,778 posts)and not offend others.
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)general ideals and goals of the majorities in their districts. Isn't that the case for most Democrats, more liberal positions in more liberal districts, more conservative in others? Representative government. Then, as you say, but definitely short of throwing in, or pretending to, with groups actively opposed to the will of the majority.
George II
(67,782 posts)....him openly showing admiration for a WWII Nazi collaborator, and refusing to back down. That and his questionable "dark money" PACs, LLCs, etc. He has a few.
A couple of pictures:
More about Subhas Chandra Bose:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Subhas_Chandra_Bose
brush
(53,778 posts)I hope still doesn't have any influence over her.
Mariana
(14,857 posts)It's good that she did so.
betsuni
(25,519 posts)Demsrule86
(68,576 posts)cwydro
(51,308 posts)100%
bigtree
(85,996 posts)...bottom line is the party is united.
Mariana
(14,857 posts)KG
(28,751 posts)apnu
(8,756 posts)AOC is popular in her borough, but across the other 4, not as much. Then there's upstate Democrats who are very moderate. AOC's fire won't play well up there, plus don't discount the cozy security and incumbent status of Schumer. Split the vote in the other boroughs, plus lukewarm reception upstate?
If AOC does primary Schumer in 2022, she's committing political suicide.
AOC is great where she is right now. She's highly visible, is a leader on policy, and getting traction on numerous issues. I hope she stays were she is for now and builds up more party capital. Like Liz Warren, she's super progressive and a party stalwart. It is possible for AOC to get there.
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George II
(67,782 posts)Alex4Martinez
(2,193 posts)...It's not really about whether or not she could prevail in a primary, it's politics.
And, she's doing her job and she's doing it well.
She's standing up for principles and holding her peers to their task, even helping them do good things.