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Nevilledog

(51,023 posts)
Mon Feb 1, 2021, 01:14 PM Feb 2021

Tuberville and RAGA Now Directly Implicated in Trump's Coup



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Tuberville and RAGA Now Directly Implicated in Trump's Coup
A social media post, made the night before the attack on the US Capitol could be the blueprint for deciphering exactly who was involved in aiding and abetting Donald Trump.
shero.substack.com
8:28 AM · Jan 28, 2021


https://shero.substack.com/p/tuberville-and-raga-now-directly

On January 5, 2021, the night before the deadly insurrection at the US Capitol Building, an elite meeting supposedly took place at the private residence of the president at the Trump International Hotel in Washington, DC, just blocks away from the White House.

It was all relayed on the social media account of Charles W. Herbster, a wealthy ranch owner from Falls City, Nebraska, who once ran a failed campaign for governor of the state in 2013, and has just filed paperwork to run again in 2022. Herbster, a long-time fixture in midwestern conservative politics, also served as Trump’s National Chairman of the Agriculture and Rural Advisory Committee at the time of the post.

Herbster documented the clandestine affair that night in a Facebook post, which was first reported by Seth Abramson, and provided an exact list of attendees, as if he were detailing a twisted version of another American Revolution. Charles Herbster listed a group of insiders that could easily be considered the crème de la crème of Trump collaborators — now possibly accomplices:

“Right now, I stand in the private residence of the President at Trump International with the following patriots who are joining me in a battle for justice and truth:

U. S. Senator Tommy Tuberville, Alabama; Mr. Donald Trump, Jr.; Mr. Peter Navarro, Assistant to President Donald J. Trump, Director of Trade and Manufacturing Policy, and the National Defense Production Act Policy Coordinator; Mr. Eric Trump; Mr. Adam Piper, Executive Director Republican Attorney General Association; Mr. David Bossie, President and Chairman of Citizens United and Deputy Campaign Manager of the 2016 Donald J. Trump Presidential Campaign; Mr. Corey Lewandowski, Manager of the 2016 Donald J. Trump Presidential Campaign; and General Michael Flynn, 25th United States National Security Advisor.”


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Tuberville and RAGA Now Directly Implicated in Trump's Coup (Original Post) Nevilledog Feb 2021 OP
Start there Pantagruel Feb 2021 #1
Yes, witnesses handed to them on a silver platter PatSeg Feb 2021 #8
RAGA Republican Attorney General Association Sanity Claws Feb 2021 #2
Doug Peterson, Atty Gen. of Nebraska also plotted suegeo Feb 2021 #17
Probably alone here...but I saw "Straka" and immediately thought of "Stracci"... Moostache Feb 2021 #45
Thank you--I keep thinking "Rage Against Government Again"? Maeve Feb 2021 #31
An argument could be made on behalf of any one or more of those AG's. BobTheSubgenius Feb 2021 #48
Conspiracists who all need to be indicted for insurrection gohuskies Feb 2021 #3
The Fascist Pied Pipers of governmental overthrow and insurrection. magicarpet Feb 2021 #4
Hopefully soon they'll be the Tied Tubers of overthrow and insurrection Blue Owl Feb 2021 #5
All should be heading for prison malaise Feb 2021 #6
Prison somewhere special in lieu of death penalty for treason BSdetect Feb 2021 #52
Holy crap!!! PatSeg Feb 2021 #7
Perhaps he posted it because bucolic_frolic Feb 2021 #12
Yes, I think you're right PatSeg Feb 2021 #15
If they had succeeded in overthrowing the government and seizing power ToxMarz Feb 2021 #19
You're right. bucolic_frolic Feb 2021 #34
There may also be an element of wealthy white privilege. Lonestarblue Feb 2021 #22
That is especially true for Trump PatSeg Feb 2021 #26
Yes, yes, yes! Is this scary or what? Cozmo Feb 2021 #37
I think exactly that. I would posit, though, that he probably didn't think there was anything wrong. BobTheSubgenius Feb 2021 #50
"Their arrogance is surpassed only by their stupidity" housecat Feb 2021 #20
Indeed! Roc2020 Feb 2021 #35
My 13-year-old is smarter than they are online. Blue_playwright Feb 2021 #29
Thank goodness PatSeg Feb 2021 #40
Faint praise for your 13-year-old! BobTheSubgenius Feb 2021 #51
The next few weeks will be very interesting to watch. 2naSalit Feb 2021 #9
Pinch me! bucolic_frolic Feb 2021 #10
Nothing organic about planning out an siditious insurrection from within. ffr Feb 2021 #11
Herbster wouldn't recognize Justice and Truth... lonely bird Feb 2021 #13
That, sir or ma'am, is . . . HuskyOffset Feb 2021 #23
No argument! lonely bird Feb 2021 #32
next challenge is to find the aforesaid balls....... lastlib Feb 2021 #43
The insurrectionists assumed they would be successful in overthrowing the government. Hermit-The-Prog Feb 2021 #14
If the attempted coup was most nations in the course of history, PufPuf23 Feb 2021 #16
Can Flynn be stripped of his military rank? It irks me to see him called General Flynn. Midnight Writer Feb 2021 #18
The idea that he can be referred to as "The 25th U.S. National Security Advisor" like some..... RussellCattle Feb 2021 #24
The Pentagon can recall him to service and court-marshal him. That would change his rank and status Ford_Prefect Feb 2021 #39
So kind of the treasonous plotters to leave a paper trail for us to follow. This will go down in Nitram Feb 2021 #21
The problem is EndlessWire Feb 2021 #25
Exactly. LudwigPastorius Feb 2021 #28
I agree. n/t EndlessWire Feb 2021 #30
Until they start arresting Underbosses and getting them to roll on the rest, theneworiginal Feb 2021 #33
I think it was a failed coup EndlessWire Feb 2021 #42
Not sure how just that they met is what we need. They can Laura PourMeADrink Feb 2021 #36
I'm sure it was about adoption........ lastlib Feb 2021 #44
Oh, yes! I remember that! n/t EndlessWire Feb 2021 #49
So "joining me in a battle for justice and truth" wasn't probable cause for the FBI's investigation? ancianita Feb 2021 #54
No, it's not. EndlessWire Feb 2021 #55
Got it. Maybe the FBI, with probable cause, found that evidence. We'll see. ancianita Feb 2021 #56
It's possible. EndlessWire Feb 2021 #57
Tubie came to DC and immediately got his member caught in the wringer. NCjack Feb 2021 #27
Lol. You can almost hear trump's words when Tubie ran... I'll Laura PourMeADrink Feb 2021 #38
It's interesting that Rudi's message to Tuberville didn't express concern about the deaths. patphil Feb 2021 #41
Hopefully, they will get their day in court soon world wide wally Feb 2021 #46
Tuberville is a pawn VA_Jill Feb 2021 #47
No, No.... you have it all wrong NHvet Feb 2021 #53
This was shot down as a nothing-burger here on DU... druidity33 Feb 2021 #58
Copyright violation ameevander Mar 2021 #59

Sanity Claws

(21,841 posts)
2. RAGA Republican Attorney General Association
Mon Feb 1, 2021, 01:18 PM
Feb 2021

Any AG who supported the insurrection should be removed from office and lose his/her law license. They obviously don't believe in the rule of law and should not be a part of the legal system.

suegeo

(2,571 posts)
17. Doug Peterson, Atty Gen. of Nebraska also plotted
Mon Feb 1, 2021, 02:02 PM
Feb 2021

Other Nebraskans involved in the coup include:

On Jan. 5, Doug Peterson, the GOP Atty General of Nebraska, put out robocalls that urged Trump supporters to march to the capitol. So, yeah, RAGA.
[link:https://omaha.com/news/state-and-regional/govt-and-politics/state-senator-seeks-answers-on-whether-nebraska-ag-had-role-in-urging-capitol-protest/article_12fe4780-5396-11eb-a2c2-b732f2372860.html|]

and

Brandon Straka, the jackass who started the walkaway campaign. Straka was arrested for fucking around & finding out, Jan. 6, 2021

[link:https://www.democraticunderground.com/100215014948|]

Moostache

(9,895 posts)
45. Probably alone here...but I saw "Straka" and immediately thought of "Stracci"...
Mon Feb 1, 2021, 03:34 PM
Feb 2021

And THAT led me to picturing these GOP weasels as conspirators in "The Godfather" against Michael Corelone...



Too bad these guilty as fuck turds won't face the same kind of ending...have to hope that the wheels of justice grind them to the dust they should be.

BobTheSubgenius

(11,560 posts)
48. An argument could be made on behalf of any one or more of those AG's.
Mon Feb 1, 2021, 03:47 PM
Feb 2021

It is possible that any of them could claim they attended the meeting without knowing what the specific agenda was. Of course, it will take an awful lot of evidence to support that claim, and a record of said AG(s) leaving early must be available. ie: as soon as the agenda was revealed.

I know, it's an outside chance at best, but maybe not everyone there knew what they had gotten themselves into.

gohuskies

(1,155 posts)
3. Conspiracists who all need to be indicted for insurrection
Mon Feb 1, 2021, 01:20 PM
Feb 2021

Talk about the Gang Who Couldn't Shoot Straight... This is huge if true and this has to be investigated to the bitter end.

BSdetect

(8,995 posts)
52. Prison somewhere special in lieu of death penalty for treason
Mon Feb 1, 2021, 04:02 PM
Feb 2021

This was a conspiracy of epic proportions.

All we need now is an audio/video of their conspiracy

PatSeg

(47,282 posts)
7. Holy crap!!!
Mon Feb 1, 2021, 01:30 PM
Feb 2021

I can't believe how stupid these people are. Did Herbster actually think that posts on Facebook were private or that no one would notice? These people who post incriminating things on social media blow my mind. You expect it from a 15 year old kid, but you'd think adults would know better. He even listed the names and titles of the "patriots" who attended the meeting! Nice attention to detail which I'm sure the FBI and congress appreciates.

I suppose what is even more disturbing is that so many of these people advertise their illegal activities, because they honestly think there is nothing wrong with what they did and that there will be no consequences. Their arrogance is surpassed only by their stupidity.

It is terrifying to imagine what would have happened if these people were actually competent.



bucolic_frolic

(43,062 posts)
12. Perhaps he posted it because
Mon Feb 1, 2021, 01:51 PM
Feb 2021

he was certain of its success and that all would be pardoned. That how advanced, and how much, planning had been put into the effort. There must, by this logic, be far more to come.

PatSeg

(47,282 posts)
15. Yes, I think you're right
Mon Feb 1, 2021, 01:56 PM
Feb 2021

We saw so much of that attitude in DC on the 6th. People not only didn't try to disguise their identity, they advertised who they were and what they were doing on social media. "Hey, my president gave me permission, so I'm okay." If this was a movie, it would be a farce or over-the-top satire.

Lonestarblue

(9,958 posts)
22. There may also be an element of wealthy white privilege.
Mon Feb 1, 2021, 02:13 PM
Feb 2021

Many of these people, especially the Trumps, have gotten away with white collar crimes their whole lives. Why should they expect to be held accountable for anything now?

PatSeg

(47,282 posts)
26. That is especially true for Trump
Mon Feb 1, 2021, 02:22 PM
Feb 2021

and he undoubtedly conveyed that sense of invulnerability to his sea of followers. "If the president is unafraid of consequences, why should we be?" In their twisted little brains, they want to be able to do and say whatever they want just like their leader, who has pretty told them they can.

BobTheSubgenius

(11,560 posts)
50. I think exactly that. I would posit, though, that he probably didn't think there was anything wrong.
Mon Feb 1, 2021, 03:54 PM
Feb 2021

While it may seem unfathomable that an AG could not know the law, maybe he believed in the Magic Article Two mojo. He wouldn't be the only one.

PatSeg

(47,282 posts)
40. Thank goodness
Mon Feb 1, 2021, 03:21 PM
Feb 2021

I am blown away by highly educated people who send compromising photos on their smartphones, sometimes even to total strangers. Careers and marriages have been destroyed by such stupid carelessness. For some, I think it is addictive. Look at all Anthony Weiner threw away because of his compulsive behavior. He got a 2nd and 3rd chance and he still couldn't (wouldn't?) stop.

BobTheSubgenius

(11,560 posts)
51. Faint praise for your 13-year-old!
Mon Feb 1, 2021, 03:58 PM
Feb 2021
Without even the 30 more years of life experience she will accrue and with just the common sense they lack...

HuskyOffset

(888 posts)
23. That, sir or ma'am, is . . .
Mon Feb 1, 2021, 02:15 PM
Feb 2021

. . . an unproven hypothesis. We need to test it. Who has their Justice & Truth boots on?

lastlib

(23,163 posts)
43. next challenge is to find the aforesaid balls.......
Mon Feb 1, 2021, 03:24 PM
Feb 2021

might require high-power magnifying implements.

PufPuf23

(8,755 posts)
16. If the attempted coup was most nations in the course of history,
Mon Feb 1, 2021, 01:59 PM
Feb 2021

the conspirators would be killed by firing squad or hanging, only in the more civilized nations with a trial.

IMO they all have earned life sentences. Hope they end up prosecuted with extreme prejudice.

Really disgusting how the GOP and much of media is minimizing the actions in the aftermath.

These folks should be shitting in their boots but most seem to think they are going to skate.

Midnight Writer

(21,717 posts)
18. Can Flynn be stripped of his military rank? It irks me to see him called General Flynn.
Mon Feb 1, 2021, 02:03 PM
Feb 2021

He trades on his title to make money and exploits the respect it denotes.

At the same time he is a traitor plotting against our Country.

Doesn't seem right.

RussellCattle

(1,530 posts)
24. The idea that he can be referred to as "The 25th U.S. National Security Advisor" like some.....
Mon Feb 1, 2021, 02:18 PM
Feb 2021

......real cabinet member just has to that arrogant prick's own idea.

Ford_Prefect

(7,872 posts)
39. The Pentagon can recall him to service and court-marshal him. That would change his rank and status
Mon Feb 1, 2021, 03:18 PM
Feb 2021

legally and remove his privileges including his pension.

This has been done before and the legal precedents support it.

Nitram

(22,768 posts)
21. So kind of the treasonous plotters to leave a paper trail for us to follow. This will go down in
Mon Feb 1, 2021, 02:13 PM
Feb 2021

history as A Conspiracy of Dunces.

EndlessWire

(6,460 posts)
25. The problem is
Mon Feb 1, 2021, 02:22 PM
Feb 2021

that there is nothing reported that indicates seditious talk. What did they actually do? What did they say? Obviously, they gathered for a reason. Maybe Trump wanted to rehearse his speech. But, what was reported beyond that they met the day before?

I followed the link, but there is nothing there.

LudwigPastorius

(9,110 posts)
28. Exactly.
Mon Feb 1, 2021, 02:41 PM
Feb 2021

This is evidence of a meeting, but it is not evidence of them discussing an attack on the Capitol building.

I'm not saying it didn't happen, only that you need more to indict and prosecute them.

theneworiginal

(302 posts)
33. Until they start arresting Underbosses and getting them to roll on the rest,
Mon Feb 1, 2021, 03:05 PM
Feb 2021

it'll just be speculation. They need to drop some heat on the real organizers, not just the Bozo's who think they are.

EndlessWire

(6,460 posts)
42. I think it was a failed coup
Mon Feb 1, 2021, 03:23 PM
Feb 2021

American style. I think a smaller group had plans, and that the call for individuals to show up was just cover for the main group. Most of those thousands of people who rolled out probably thought they were just going to property destruct, raise some hell, and motor on home, laughing all the way. And, then look what happened.

But, you have to have something to hang your hat on. Like Trump's speech to rile them up. Like the "see you in Washington" remark. Like, the memo that held off the Guard. Like, the Trumps watching on TV and enjoying it, doing nothing. Like, Trump threatening the GA SoS with retribution if he didn't cheat.

You have to have evidence that has foundation. This isn't enough. It probably was a war council -- but, prove it. Let's get one of the attendees to roll over, with something leveraged that we can't see.

 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
36. Not sure how just that they met is what we need. They can
Mon Feb 1, 2021, 03:15 PM
Feb 2021

Make up anything! This was the last ditch effort to not certify.

ancianita

(35,939 posts)
54. So "joining me in a battle for justice and truth" wasn't probable cause for the FBI's investigation?
Mon Feb 1, 2021, 04:18 PM
Feb 2021

Just sayin' maybe there's more coming. We might be seeing the drip drip of media in days ahead.

EndlessWire

(6,460 posts)
55. No, it's not.
Mon Feb 1, 2021, 04:22 PM
Feb 2021

We all engaged in battles for truth and justice. We need an actual plan that they met to discuss. And, even if we think we know what it was, we need more proof.

NCjack

(10,279 posts)
27. Tubie came to DC and immediately got his member caught in the wringer.
Mon Feb 1, 2021, 02:24 PM
Feb 2021

Looks like he is replacing Johnson as the dumbest Senator.

 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
38. Lol. You can almost hear trump's words when Tubie ran... I'll
Mon Feb 1, 2021, 03:17 PM
Feb 2021

back you, but you'll have to help me later. And new to DC, probably impressed the hell out of him to be included.

patphil

(6,150 posts)
41. It's interesting that Rudi's message to Tuberville didn't express concern about the deaths.
Mon Feb 1, 2021, 03:22 PM
Feb 2021

Or even the "Hang Pence" chants. He talks as if what went on was just part of the plan, and how Tuberville needed to continue with the plan to disrupt and delay the vote. I wonder what else was planned that didn't happen when the vote went through in the early morning hours of Thursday, the 7th.
There was obvious evidence of a conspiracy to defraud the election present in Rudi's call. So, the meeting on the 5th becomes the focal point for the FBI to investigate the true size and scope of the conspiracy.
The riot and attack on the Capitol definitely appears to have been planned. It just didn't get the job done. I guess when the Congressmen and Vice-President Pence realized what danger they were in, they got a little bit angry and decided to end all this shit.
Democracy worked despite Trump and his co-conspirators attempts to tear the Republic down.
We can only thank Rudi's bumbling ineptitude for providing the smoking gun.

VA_Jill

(9,941 posts)
47. Tuberville is a pawn
Mon Feb 1, 2021, 03:44 PM
Feb 2021

I submit that he is too fcuking stupid to know he was being used or have any idea what he was doing. Not that either thing makes him less guilty.

druidity33

(6,445 posts)
58. This was shot down as a nothing-burger here on DU...
Mon Feb 1, 2021, 05:40 PM
Feb 2021

because it was Seth Abramsom who first reported it. Just sayin'...



ameevander

(1 post)
59. Copyright violation
Tue Mar 23, 2021, 09:07 AM
Mar 2021

Did I give you permission to reproduce any portion of my original work in this forum?

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