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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region Forums... 1 million vaccinations a week, is nowhere near enough to achieve herd immunity by summer 2021.
sad read to say the least. I and my 95 year old mom are on 4 lists on my county to get the vaccine. We await a phone call.
...............Vaccine hunting is a 'fix' for slow vaccine rollout
https://www.cnn.com/2021/02/01/us/vaccine-hunters-covid-trnd/index.html
By all accounts, the US vaccine rollout so far has been disappointing.
CNN medical analyst Dr. Leana Wen explained, in sobering terms, just how disappointing in a January interview, before Biden was inaugurated. At the current rate, she said, it'll take the US 10 years to vaccinate 80% of Americans.
The current pace, 1 million vaccinations a week, is nowhere near enough to achieve herd immunity by summer 2021.
And despite the incredibly high demand for vaccines, vaccination sites across the country have reportedly discarded precious doses after they weren't administered in time. (Both Pfizer and Moderna's Covid-19 vaccines only last a few hours unrefrigerated -- Pfizer's will expire within two hours, and Moderna's within 12, after the vials are removed from the fridge.)
To vaccine hunt is to devote hours, possibly days, of your life waiting for a dose of a vaccine that may or may not be available. It's a crapshoot. You need time, money, connections and luck to succeed. But some say it's worth the effort involved.
Initech
(100,120 posts)riversedge
(70,384 posts)coti
(4,612 posts)What we really, really need is for the population as a whole to be inoculated as quickly as possible. If the equity efforts are slowing that mission down (which, given our level of organization, could very well be the case) we need to shift our focus.
roamer65
(36,747 posts)Start drive in admins everywhere.
Irish_Dem
(47,597 posts)They have it all, medical staff, transportations, logistics.
And the vaccine production needs to be 24/7, just like it WWII.
CTyankee
(63,914 posts)telling me we can _____ (fill in the blank)!
This just underscores how lack of leadership, combined with arrogance and stupidity, brought us to our knees.
Irish_Dem
(47,597 posts)I am getting madder by the week.
People cannot get their vaccines, or if they do, hundreds are in line with only two nurses giving shots.
CTyankee
(63,914 posts)his team of pros, set this up and I've never seen anything go so smoothly, from our call in to get an appointment to our very brief waiting period, no long line, process with IDs and insurance cards, to getting our vaccine!
Governor Ned Lamont is a hero to us. I am so impressed and grateful!
Irish_Dem
(47,597 posts)I have no idea if I will ever get a vaccine.
CTyankee
(63,914 posts)Irish_Dem
(47,597 posts)Getting the vaccine is a disgrace
CTyankee
(63,914 posts)Irish_Dem
(47,597 posts)Thekaspervote
(32,813 posts)War production act, and another to fund 100 dedicated large scale vaccination sites
President Biden has been in office less than 3 weeks...despite his best efforts it isnt magic! It takes time
Irish_Dem
(47,597 posts)Vaccine production should be 24/7 like in WWII.
Military and NG needs to set up drive through tents asap.
roamer65
(36,747 posts)Agent Orange.
Irish_Dem
(47,597 posts)roamer65
(36,747 posts)💯 percent.
uponit7771
(90,370 posts)... manufactures are pointing fingers at the distributers and then the administrators.
There's something wrong
ProfessorGAC
(65,322 posts)They are actually slightly ahead of forecast on the start-up production curve.
The problem is distribution. They're both making more than 1.35 million doses a day. And th
That puts distribution & administration at 48% of production.
2.7 million a day made. 1.3 million in arms!
It's not a manufacturing issue.
uponit7771
(90,370 posts)... a mess.
In my voting lifetime there are 3 republican president, 3 decimated economies for working class people
ProfessorGAC
(65,322 posts)I also thought of something else.
The forecasts are based on vials filled. The dose number can from just multiplying by 5 doses per vial.
If it's 6 doses, that makes the bottlenecks worse.
Because at 6 doses a day, that's 3.24 million doses a day. 1.3 million in arms. 40% of vaccines administered.
And, I thought 48% was bad!
uponit7771
(90,370 posts)ProfessorGAC
(65,322 posts)I honestly believe that was the extent of their "plan".
Also, I screwed up!
I thought the OP was 1.3 million a day!
It's a week!
This is way beyond terrible!
uponit7771
(90,370 posts)ProfessorGAC
(65,322 posts)I just found a US N&WR articles that says we're averaging 1 million a day over the last 10 days.
So, we probably are up to 1.3 million a day, not a week.
Pobeka
(4,999 posts)coti
(4,612 posts)Hopefully the entire article wasn't premised on that mistaken information.
1.3 millions times 180 days (6 months) = 234 million doses (many of which will take two doses for full vaccination).
Pobeka
(4,999 posts)Cicada
(4,533 posts)And it also reduces the odds of serious illness even among those who are in the 14%. I got my first shot two days ago so I looked that up. One thing I found wonderful is that after 2 moderna shots basically no one dies. It is listed as 100% effective at preventing death. So even for those who do get infected, the five percent, they only get mild symptoms. Yeah science!
It takes two weeks after the first shot to get protected though.
roamer65
(36,747 posts)80 pct.
Second shot brings you to 95.6 with no death.
Moderna has done a good job on this one.
Cicada
(4,533 posts)The two big vaccines came from groups trying to use this approach to cure cancer. They turned to covid first but now they are back to using it to knock out cancer. They have very preliminary results which are very promising. Fixing covid may be just a minor achievement for this approach.
Check this out
roamer65
(36,747 posts)Like antibodies that attack cancer cells.
Just that we are vaccinating against a SARS virus is quite amazing.
ProfessorGAC
(65,322 posts)The manufacturers are moving up a new product production curve.
They expect to be at 550 - 600 thousand vials a day each. They're around 270,000 a day now.
Depending on whether we do 5 or 6 doses that 5.5 - 7 million doses a day.
Of course, they've got customers other than the United States.
But, the bottlenecks are proper distribution and administration.
Remember the manufacturers having 3 million doses sitting in shipping storage for 2.5 days because nobody told them where to ship them.
THERE WAS NO PLAN!. Those boobs heard "vaccine works" and forgot only 50% of the work was done.
Cicada
(4,533 posts)80% of deaths are among those over 65 years old, about 50 million people. We can also vaccinate those under 65 with dangerous conditions which make people susceptible to covid. I think we can reduce deaths by 80% within 6 weeks.
We dont have to achieve heard immunity to get it well controlled.
SlogginThroughIt
(1,977 posts)BGBD
(3,282 posts)We are giving nearly 1.5 million doses a day right now and it's only going up.
https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/daily-covid-19-vaccination-doses
LiberalFighter
(51,229 posts)The earliest I could get was March 4.