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AOC just said on her insta live that rioters broke into her office during the insurrection. (Original Post) Nevilledog Feb 2021 OP
K&R! SheltieLover Feb 2021 #1
Unconscionable. dchill Feb 2021 #2
she gets an insane amount of death threats daily Celerity Feb 2021 #3
More Nevilledog Feb 2021 #4
I'm so relieved that she survived it. Buckeye_Democrat Feb 2021 #5
Thanks for mentioning Fox Bradshaw3 Feb 2021 #9
Why aren't the seditionists expelled yet? ecstatic Feb 2021 #6
unfortunately, we do not have the votes to get to 2/3rds in the House Celerity Feb 2021 #12
K&R MustLoveBeagles Feb 2021 #7
r&k MerryBlooms Feb 2021 #8
I seriously hope every rioter that was there gets arrested. Initech Feb 2021 #10
Treason has a significant maximum Lucky Luciano Feb 2021 #11
Capitol Police should have used deadly force to prevent entry. dalton99a Feb 2021 #13
They were specifically told they could not use force, notinkansas Feb 2021 #15
On MSNBC last night, they were saying the DeminPennswoods Feb 2021 #22
I don't think that crowd was thinking in terms of permits at all. notinkansas Feb 2021 #24
Yeah, I wouldn't blame them. Their hands were tied. All part of the plan. C Moon Feb 2021 #16
Ok, so if the Ethics committee comes across evidence of a criminal behavior ... jobendorfer Feb 2021 #14
So sorry she had to go through that Dem4Life1102 Feb 2021 #17
I am so sorry that she went through that. I watched her entire, Hortensis Feb 2021 #18
What candidate for president on the Democratic ticket Dem4Life1102 Feb 2021 #20
No matter what people think of her political positions, she is undeniably a true public servant. KY_EnviroGuy Feb 2021 #19
Outrageously, most of her traumatic experience was due to police negligence, Hortensis Feb 2021 #21
She's amazing and she's strong. hamsterjill Feb 2021 #23

Nevilledog

(50,685 posts)
4. More
Tue Feb 2, 2021, 12:17 AM
Feb 2021


Tweet text:
Ben Collins
@oneunderscore__
I will never understand people who don't believe this testimony.

These insurrectionists built a cult out of a doomsday where they execute Democrats. They killed a cop and maimed others for being in the way of it.

It's a true miracle it wasn't much worse.

Buckeye_Democrat

(14,847 posts)
5. I'm so relieved that she survived it.
Tue Feb 2, 2021, 12:26 AM
Feb 2021

And if she'd been killed, I wouldn't have felt bad at all if someone then decided to apply Hammurabi's Code on the Fox News propagandists and others who have demonized her.

Bradshaw3

(7,455 posts)
9. Thanks for mentioning Fox
Tue Feb 2, 2021, 01:19 AM
Feb 2021

They spent years demonizing HRC and the last few years it has been AOC. You can't whip up screwed up people for years and not expect some kind of terrible outcome - if they get a chance to act on all the anger that had been created. It came within a few feet of happening here and like you I would have said well Mr. Murdoch you may reap what you sowed.

Celerity

(42,666 posts)
12. unfortunately, we do not have the votes to get to 2/3rds in the House
Tue Feb 2, 2021, 02:08 AM
Feb 2021

Too many Rethugs either love what happened or are fucking gutless gits who are terrified of the Q-MAGAt white power Rump worshiping masses of tens of millions of RWNJ's out and about on the partially rotted fruited plain.


Process leading to expulsion

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Expulsion_from_the_United_States_Congress

Presently, the disciplinary process begins when a resolution to expel or censure a Member is referred to the appropriate committee. In the House, this is the Committee on Standards of Official Conduct (House Ethics Committee); in the Senate, this is the Select Committee on Ethics (Senate Ethics Committee).

The committee may then ask other Representatives or Senators to come forward with complaints about the Member under consideration or may initiate an investigation into the Member's actions. Sometimes Members may refer a resolution calling for an investigation into a particular Member or matter that may lead to the recommendation of expulsion or censure.

Rule XI (Procedures of committees and unfinished business) of the Rules of the House of Representatives states that the Committee on Standards of Official Conduct can investigate allegations that a Member violated "any law, rule, regulation, or other standard of conduct applicable to the conduct of such Member ... in the performance of his duties or the discharge of his responsibilities". The Senate Select Committee on Ethics has the same jurisdiction. The committee may then report back to their whole chamber as to its findings and recommendations for further actions.

When an investigation is launched by either committee, an investigatory subcommittee will be formed. Once the investigatory subcommittee has collected evidence, talked to witnesses, and held an adjudicatory hearing, it will vote on whether the Member is found to have committed the specific actions and then will vote on recommendations. If expulsion is the recommendation then the subcommittee's report will be referred to the full House of Representatives or Senate where Members may vote to accept, reject, or alter the report's recommendation. Voting to expel requires the concurrence of two-thirds of the members. This is set out in Article 1, Section 5, Clause 2 of the United States Constitution.

notinkansas

(1,095 posts)
15. They were specifically told they could not use force,
Tue Feb 2, 2021, 02:42 AM
Feb 2021

they were not issued weapons or protective equipment, they could not make arrests, they could not request national guard assistance........AARRGGHH
See https://www.democraticunderground.com/100215034066

DeminPennswoods

(15,246 posts)
22. On MSNBC last night, they were saying the
Tue Feb 2, 2021, 09:28 AM
Feb 2021

rally permit did not allow for a march to the Capitol. Perhaps that's why there wasn't more of a police/LE presence.

notinkansas

(1,095 posts)
24. I don't think that crowd was thinking in terms of permits at all.
Wed Feb 3, 2021, 03:56 PM
Feb 2021

And there was enough information online about people going to DC (even out loud by trump: 'It will be wild.') that security should have been seriously upgraded. Decisions were made to deliberately not provide sufficient security.

jobendorfer

(508 posts)
14. Ok, so if the Ethics committee comes across evidence of a criminal behavior ...
Tue Feb 2, 2021, 02:37 AM
Feb 2021

Refer the member investigated to the DOJ for prosecution.
The number needed to neutralize the offending house member drops from 291 (2/3rds of 435) to 12.
In the upper chamber, the the number of votes needed to neutralize the offending Senate member drops from 67 to 12.

Sometimes you have to choose the ground you fight on, rather than letting your opponent choose it.

Just. Sayin.

 

Dem4Life1102

(3,974 posts)
17. So sorry she had to go through that
Tue Feb 2, 2021, 02:52 AM
Feb 2021

Those who hate her and go out of their way to unfairly attack her just expose themselves as petty and small minded.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
18. I am so sorry that she went through that. I watched her entire,
Tue Feb 2, 2021, 03:42 AM
Feb 2021

lengthy description of her experiences on that day, leading up to it and after, and am in total sympathy with everything she expressed. Thank everything they didn't find her or others they came for.

But as for that last post, I'm also sorry good Democrats had to live through months of a candidate for president on the Democratic ticket trying to subvert a presidential primary, supported by followers who believed, some even radicalized by, months of massive, ongoing lies about stolen elections in state after state.

Many fell away after that 2016 national disaster, but in others that support continues, so I'm angry and frightened by the potential for future weakening of our ability to fight off much larger attacks on our democracy from followers of the next RW cult leader. I'm not drawing an equalization between those on the left and the RW trumpists who put fealty to their candidate above the people's sovereignty, but I am drawing a comparison. Willingness to overthrow free and fair elections and the will of the majority is a grave danger to us all, and after 2016, 2018, 2020, and what we're going through now, no one should need that explained.

KY_EnviroGuy

(14,483 posts)
19. No matter what people think of her political positions, she is undeniably a true public servant.
Tue Feb 2, 2021, 03:53 AM
Feb 2021

We appreciate and respect her...... ..........

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
21. Outrageously, most of her traumatic experience was due to police negligence,
Tue Feb 2, 2021, 09:24 AM
Feb 2021

at the least. The rioters never got near her, but she had good reason to believe she was about to die.

A very menacing, volatile atmosphere had already developed in DC, and it had become dangerous for her to be seen on the street by the gathering trumpists. At one point a group was staring avidly at her as if wondering if they should do something right there.

But, on this day it wasn't rioters but a Capitol Police officer who was yelling "where is she?! "Where is she?!" and banging hard on the suite doors as if to break in. He did not identify himself. The officer was the violent intruder she desperately hid from, believing she was about to die.

And when she realized he was police, she still didn't feel safe from him because he seemed strangely hostile and un-policelike toward her, an impression a staffer who'd been in another office also got from him. And due to his negligent handling, not telling them where to shelter safely, the trauma and running for their lives continued.

Ocasio said there were other details she couldn't disclose at this time, presumably related to an investigation or investigations of the whole thing. Good! Unconscionable.

Katie Porter said she'd been told the officers were evacuating Ocasio-Cortez's building because of a bomb threat, which might explain the officer not accompanying them to safety. Btw, Porter herself is a well-known Democratic face. Things would not have gone well if that mob had gotten to them.

hamsterjill

(15,214 posts)
23. She's amazing and she's strong.
Tue Feb 2, 2021, 10:15 AM
Feb 2021

But as a woman in her sixties who has a daughter, in this piece, I see AOC as I would my daughter, who is also amazing and strong.

It makes me want to vomit and it makes me cry that she was subjected to this horror. If it were possible, I’d want to hold her and hug her for a very long time.

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