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Quixote1818

(28,929 posts)
Tue Feb 2, 2021, 12:47 AM Feb 2021

Snopes has some interesting info here

Pretty sure this was on DU in some form but there was so much stuff going up a few weeks ago it was hard to keep up. Is there anything new on the stuff below?

Did Members of Congress Provide ‘Reconnaissance Tours’ Before Capitol Riots? (Unproven)

Snip:

Sherrill did not name specific lawmakers, but told Politico that, “We’re requesting an investigation right now with certain agencies.” For now the claim remains unproven.

But in terms of the broader notion that members of Congress were involved with people who claim to have helped plan the events of Jan. 6, documentary evidence exists to support those allegations. In a since deleted video, “Stop the [Election] Steal” organizer Ali Alexander claimed he worked with Rep. Paul Gosar, R-Arizona, Rep. Mo Brooks, R-Alabama, and Rep. Andy Biggs, R-Arizona, on plans to disrupt the Electoral College certification in Congress:

I was the person who came up with the January 6th idea with Congressman Gosar, Congressman Mo Brooks, and then Congressman Andy Biggs. We four schemed up putting maximum pressure on Congress while they were voting so that … we could change the hearts and the minds of Republicans who were in that body, hearing our loud war from outside.

All three have had some connection, whether direct or indirect, to Alexander, as several media outlets later reported.

Gosar, one of the most vocal promoters of president Trump’s false claims about the 2020 election, described Alexander as a “true patriot” on Twitter, and linked to Alexander’s account at least 23 times between Nov. 30, 2020, and Alexander’s suspension from Twitter, according to The Washington Post. The two both spoke at a “Stop the Steal Rally” on Dec. 19 in Phoenix, Arizona. Alexander has referred to Gosar as “his great friend.” Gosar has yet to comment on the allegations.

Biggs has denied any involvement with Alexander. However, at the same Phoenix Rally, Alexander played a video of Biggs that had been pre-recorded for the crowd, as reported in the Arizona Republic:

It continues: https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/reconnaissance-tours/

I am just wondering if something big might still break on all this soon. Thoughts?

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emmaverybo

(8,144 posts)
1. So far, what I have read and receipts offered don't seem enough to suggest planning
Tue Feb 2, 2021, 01:04 AM
Feb 2021

anything illegal. They can support and promote the talk and march to Cap. bldng., have praised Alexander, even fraternize with groups with ugly ideologies and though that might reflect very badly on their judgement since some members committed crimes, has to be shown that they knew
they were participating in a plan for mob violence or inciting it on the spot (immediacy is crucial to charging incitement).
My thought is that Gosar, Brooks, and Biggs are horrible people, unfit for office, probably hoped the event would lead to disruption of proceedings that day, didn’t care if disruption was violent or not. “Scheming up...pressure” during the vote “from outside” could violate some ethical regulation they are held to, but doubt such a plan is criminal.
However, more could be revealed!

 

mr_lebowski

(33,643 posts)
2. A trenchant analysis of these particular characters ... I agree ... they probably skirted illegality
Tue Feb 2, 2021, 01:28 AM
Feb 2021

Trump himself, OTOH ... with his immediate actions ... is another matter.

dchill

(38,472 posts)
5. Trump is the one with the biggest "hangout" in this case.
Tue Feb 2, 2021, 03:26 AM
Feb 2021

The speech on the Ellipse is enough on it's own. But there's SO MUCH MORE.

KY_EnviroGuy

(14,490 posts)
4. Any Congressperson that would change their vote based on a protest ruckus.....
Tue Feb 2, 2021, 02:56 AM
Feb 2021

outside the chamber should be summarily ran out of Washington, D.C. on a rail.

That whole damn shit show was a scam and grift by tRump to boost his support and get people's money because it was impossible to change the result of our election.

If they had burned the Capitol building to the ground and killed half of the Congress, it could not change the result.

That said, I now want to hear from them the real reasons for the rally.


KY rant done.......

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