My opinion of AOC is changed, likely permanently

[Stinky The Clown]

"I just hope I can become a Mom"

She said that to Katie Porter as she was looking for a place to hide from the insurrectionists bent on killing her.

I see her now as a woman of greater resolve than we have seen from her thus far.

There is policy and there is humanity. My humanity underlies my change of attitude. She puts herself out there for what she believes in. That trait caused her to be a target for the haters. I can't imagine her backing down. That counts for a LOT. We can debate policy later.

But today, simply, I am glad she is on our team.

[Wounded Bear]

1. She's quite a woman. Glad she's on our side...nt

[bigtree]

2. good on you

...'she is on our team.'

[Irish_Dem]

3. I've always loved AOC. Now I know she is a woman of great courage,

fortitude, and determination.

AOC risks her life every day to do the right thing.
How many of us could do that?

[Wounded Bear]

4. Well she tended bar in Brooklynn. Gotta be pretty tough for that...

[Irish_Dem]

5. Right, she has experience handling drunk bullies.

But to risk her life every day, yikes I could not do that.

[theneworiginal]

117. She spoke out about being a sexual abuse victim and how

the riot at the Capital re-traumatized her. Clearly emotional about it.

I was thinking of exactly that when Leslie Stahl did the hatchet job on Nancy Pelosi. How does a reporter--a female!--treat an interviewee so insensitively after being victimized in a crime like that? It shows no awareness or respect for the very real terror they were going through after they were hunted by people who wanted to and probably would have killed them.

The human side of the violence on the Hill cannot be overstated.

[Irish_Dem]

127. Pelosi has been a target for a long time and was in severe danger during the insurrection.

She barely escaped with her life.

Indeed, many of the members of congress were traumatized because they came close to kidnap or death.
The GOP members even refused to wear masks to protect their fellow MOC.

You can see the GOP does not care about any of this, they have no regard for human life.
Whether it be migrants, the American people or their own friends and colleagues.

[Sanity Claws]

14. Did she?

I thought she worked in the Union Square area. Maybe she worked in several places.

[Wounded Bear]

51. TBH, I don't know exactly where she served liquor...

[ariadne0614]

10. +1 n/t

[cilla4progress]

6. I've always loved her too -

so glad you've seen her for her true self!

I see her clearly as a voice of and from our future. She's smart and deep. Just because she's young and pretty doesn't mean she's dumb or shallow.

It's important - and sometimes challenging - not to buy into the caricature the MSM sells us.

I see this around Biden, too. At one time I saw his age as a negative, and I worried about it. Now I see him as a wise elder.

I also did this with HRC, and I have a little shame over it.

[ariadne0614]

13. +1 n/t

[KPN]

56. +2! My sentiments exactly.

[PWPippinesq]

82. I agree with you completely.

I've always admired her spunk, quickness, intelligence and resolve. it's too bad it takes such an event for others to see what we've believed from the time she appeared on the national scene. Welcome aboard the train to the future.

[cilla4progress]

88. like that...

train to the future!

[PWPippinesq]

106. It's Acela, not Tommy the Train.

Hope on board or get left in history's dust!

[Bradshaw3]

7. She has always been a person of great resolve

Sorry you weren't able to see it.

[Binkie The Clown]

8. She is my hero. Mark my words: She will be president some day. nt

[maxsolomon]

21. She'll have my vote and support.

A lot of this country is going to have to die off first, though. They won't listen to what she has to say.

Give it 20 years.

[cilla4progress]

23. That's what we say

here at my house, too!

[srose58089]

48. AOC 2040

I hope I live long enough to see her as President.

[jimlup]

148. Or earlier!

Seriously

[VA_Jill]

84. I probably won't be here for that

as I'm now 77, but my granddaughters will.I can picture the youngest one, who is now 3, out there campaigning for her; she's quite a pistol in her own right.

[Binkie The Clown]

95. Me neither. But my granddaughters will. nt

[Initech]

149. I see her as a future Speaker for sure!

[OAITW r.2.0]

9. Pretty emotional moment for her.

She's at the top of the RW hate list. I can only imagine what might have occurred if they had found her...

I have to say, I was recently very impressed with her grasp of the Robinhood/GameStop issues in the discussion she did online. She is very intelligent and a quiick learner.

[KPN]

57. I'd really like to see what she said about RHood/GME.

Can you point me to a location?

[OAITW r.2.0]

66. It was posted here a few days ago.

Unfortunately, I didn't comment on the thread.

[Cosmocat]

11. She is young, but extraordinary

Some rough edges, but she always has been sharp as a tack and tough as nails.

[BComplex]

30. That toughness was born from a passion for justice for all Americans, and a hatred of injustice.

She's in the fight with her whole heart and soul. It shows.

[blm]

12. I am also glad she had Katie Porter looking out for her when she

was at such a vulnerable time.

[ariadne0614]

15. +1 n/t

[Stinky The Clown]

17. Amen!

[Traildogbob]

32. Katie

Would have beaten the hell out of any MAGATs with her white board.
I can’t imagine how much anger her dad must have.
My daughter is around AOC’s age. If she were in her situation, this dad would be out hunting instead of posting. A tear in my daughters eyes for being abused and threatened............I will take the lowest of roads and screw the laws.
AOC puts herself at this risk to help average people.
Yet Gym Jordon and Moonez gets medal of freedom.
See a difference in parties?

[Tanuki]

40. Sadly, Rep. Ocasio-Cortez' father, Sergio Ocasio, died of cancer when she

was still in college and did not live to see her meteoric rise in the political sphere.

https://www.distractify.com/p/aoc-parents

[Traildogbob]

59. Horrible

My daughter and I lost her mom to cancer when she was 10. Now 31 and an ICU nurse, Her mom an OR nurse. Wish she would be here to see her daughter’s achievement. Wish AOC’s dad were here to see the amazing daughter of his and were here for AOC to have her back with GOP assaults.

[Tanuki]

65. I'm sorry your late wife was lost at such a young age. I'm sure she would have

been very proud of your daughter and the life choices she has made! We Democrats are mindful that not everyone has an optimal support network and that is one reason we tend to join together to have everyone's back, even if we don't know them, and make sure nobody is left behind or out in the cold with no helper or advocate.

[Traildogbob]

70. I recently found out how much.

My Daughter got Covid from an irate patient. Ow back in UCU thank God.
The amazing people here sent over 130 posts of support for her and me. We have no one else. My family all Jesus republicans. With 3 brothers and my dad, not a single inquiry about her condition from any of them, a month after illness. Just one prayer hand emoji text from older brother.
So I do feel like DU is our family.
Thank all of you. ❤️❤️✌🏼

[MustLoveBeagles]

140. I hope your daughter is doing better

[Traildogbob]

141. Thank you

She is back in ICU, soldiering on 12 hours night shifts caring for people. So far, minimum residual symptoms.

[MustLoveBeagles]

144. I'm glad she's better

[Traildogbob]

62. And thank you

For the link to the story. I really love this fearless lady, fighting for us, while facing such danger.

[2Gingersnaps]

155. I have lurked and learned here at DU since just about their beginning, never posted, I read your

post about your daughter being punched and spittled at by a Covid patient. I cried. Took my share of blows and smacks upside the head from people I was trying to care for back in the day. You are one fantastic loving Dad. I wanted to finally join in to give you virtual hugs. LOL, they weren't taking new people at that time! Here you are again. AOC has blown me away since she came into public service. It takes a pretty weak man to abuse women, and the thing I hate trump for the most is showing that his particular disorder is a lot more common than any of us knew. AOC brought those small people out of the woodwork, with her spunk, her smarts, and her work ethic. My own husband raised a good man, and cherished his daughters. So much is said of bad men, never enough of good men. AOC's Dad and Mom did a great job.

[Traildogbob]

156. ❤️❤️🤜🏼🤛🏼

[Lucinda]

76. +1

❤️~✿~❧~🌿~❧~✿~❤️

[ShazzieB]

86. +1

💕🌹💕🌸💕🌺💕🌻💕🌷💕🌼💕

[Jerry2144]

16. I am looking forward to the day I can vote for her

But since I don’t live in her state, I will have to wait until she runs for POTUS. She has my vote already

[Delmette2.0]

44. Oh, can you imagine Kamala as POTUS and

AOC as VP? That would be awesome.

[AmyStrange]

54. If that happened, I'd die of a heart attack, but...

-

I'd die happy.
==============

[Delmette2.0]

69. LOL, me too.

[bucolic_frolic]

18. She has clearly improved her dialogue

Less edgy, more cerebral and explained and nuanced, a little quieter. Maybe Steve Schmidt had that conversation he sought?

[Hassin Bin Sober]

45. AOC doesn't need any help from the guy who thought Sarah Fucking Palin was a good idea.

[lunatica]

78. He didn't like Palin but he was the campaign manager for John McCain

When McCain picked Sara Palin at the urging of Bill Krystol who thought she was a rising star governor of Alaska, Steve Schmidt made the best of it. He put Nicolle Wallace on the job of creating an acceptable public image for Palin. His job was to get McCain elected and he probably figured that the VP was little more than a lackey position. Historically that’s true, but it changed when Clinton had Al Gore and much more so when Obama had Biden as VP. It also changed when Bush had Cheney. It reverted back to insignificance with Mike Pence, but I think it will change permanently with Joe Biden and Kamala Harris.

Both Schmidt and Wallace found out she was a loose cannon and dumber than shit and proud of it. Nicolle Wallace knew Palin was a disaster and uncontrollable when she tried to groom her.

There’s a movie called Game Changer which everyone should see to understand the way it was. Woody Harrelson played the part of Steve Schmidt.

[Hassin Bin Sober]

85. Nonsense. Why don't you listen to his own words...

McCain wanted Lieberman up to a couple days before the convention and was upset he couldn’t have him.

Palin was put on the map by Krystol and other right wing pundits/operators but the decision to pick her was made at the last minute by Schmidt as campaign manager (and others).



Schmidt’s own words:

@ 1:25

[lunatica]

132. Thanks for the video

It does look in the video as if Steve Schmidt was the main person who decided, but evidently MCCain had already met her and there seem to have been more people involved. There is another response to my post below based on the book named Game Changer. See post 119.

It doesn’t look like anyone had any knowledge of her off the wall crazy. It’s not like her personality type is common. I can understand that a quick and superficial knowledge of her wouldn’t expose just how extreme she was. Now, of course, we’ve seen much more of these radical people.

[stopdiggin]

112. I'm going with your version.

Anyone with half a noodle (and it's debatable whether that group included McCain himself) knew that Sarah was dumber than dog doo. But that's not necessarily a disqualification in politics as Schmidt and everybody else understood. And Sarah checked a couple of (potential) boxes. The surprise came when everybody found out she wasn't even "trainable" (as a small minority of dogs are -- and the muzzle didn't work very well either)

[betsuni]

119. The book "Game Change" describes what happened.

McCain had met Palin earlier in the year at a National Governors Association meeting in Washington. McCain said he "liked the cut of Sarah's jib. She's damn impressive." The other campaign manager, Davis, in charge of McCain's VP process, found a video of Palin and was "bowled over." He showed Schmidt and he was too. But they'd never met her. McCain had. There was little time, they needed their choice to be a surprise. It's silly to blame Schmidt for Palin.

"It was now thirty-six hours from the campaign's Friday target for unveiling its veepstakes winner. ... She had never met Schmidt. She had never met Salter. Now, in a rush, against a deadline, with little background information, the two McCain advisors had to determine if she was ready for the big stage." She seemed to be, she was very confident.

[Autumn]

92. Thank you! AOC would make him eat his moderate Republican lunch tips in a conversation.

[sheshe2]

138. You sig line is interesting.

Speaks volumes.

[KPN]

60. She has always been cerebral.

[demmiblue]

71. There are not enough eyerolls for this post. n/t

[nolabear]

91. Say WHAT?

Damn...

[Lakerstan]

19. If you haven't seen the Netflix doc "Knock down the house"

You owe it to yourself. I didn’t have an appreciation for her background until I saw that. But I was always a fan.

[ancianita]

108. I just saw it! It was AMAZING! Thank you!

The great thing it showed is that, of all the people who lost, Cori Bush ran again and WON. Which shows the fight and persistence that got GA blue, too.

This is a great model for keeping up the outsider work in WV, NV and other states' Repubs we're trying to primary in 2020.

[Sprite]

20. AOC is the most honest of politicians. My opinion of her as always been the same. She is awesome!

AOC has bold ideas that the old guard just can't wrap their heads around or do not want her to get credit. She is the future and people just have to get used to her. I wish she was in the Senate and able to be part of the trial. She would not let anything go past the spineless Republicans who do not care about our country. They only care about being reelected.

[ananda]

22. She's always been a favorite of mine.

She has such a big heart and strong resolve
to help the people who need it.

[wryter2000]

24. My problem wasn't with her

It was with media who acted as if everything she said was major news.

[Karma13612]

139. Exactly,

Can’t blame her for the media being who they are.

[cilla4progress]

25. Wish we could get these beautiful comments of support

to her! But I'm sure she knows...to many she is respected and beloved!

PS Shoutout for the marvelous Rep Katie Porter as well, AOC's cover on that day.

Wowza!!!!

[LaMouffette]

26. I have a dream: A couple of presidential terms from now: President AOC, Vice President Katie Porter.

Or vice versa.

[FakeNoose]

38. I'd like to see Pete Buttigieg make a run, a few years down the road

... and maybe he'd invite AOC on the ticket. They would make a dynamite pair.

[LaMouffette]

68. Oh God, yes! They would be phenomenal. We have so many good people on our side.

[marble falls]

27. She has a hand in our future and I have no qualms whatsoever.

[RobertDevereaux]

28. Deeply loving AOC!

[NoMoreRepugs]

29. I for one wish we had a 100 more AOC's to move this country forward. Harris, Warren, Klobuchar,

Porter, HRC, Michelle Obama, etc., etc. are incredible examples for our young girls AND boys - makes me proud to be an American.

[Jay25]

31. I've always liked and admired AOC.

[Doremus]

33. My esteem greatly increased after listening to her describe hiding in her office the day before the

insurrection, expecting to be discovered by an intruder. When she said that if she died she would know that her life had come to an end when it was supposed to, that she had fulfilled her purpose here and that others would take over the cause, I marveled at her wisdom and maturity beyond her age.

[PufPuf23]

34. Amen. Give AOC some time. If AOC sticks with politics, she

is going to have a great progressive impact and we will be proud and glad for her leadership.

Don't always agree with her, but AOC is a real person and very strong; her humanity shouts quietly.

AOC is still a neophyte in her political career. Think of her in 25 years.

I hope AOC gets to be a Mom and she will be a good Mom to.

[WhiskeyGrinder]

35. Sucks that women have to parade their trauma in order to be taken seriously.

It's definitely a thing, though.

[BannonsLiver]

41. It also sucks when people are completely incapable of reading the room.

[demmiblue]

73. That's a good point. n/t

[Chemisse]

107. I was actually impressed that she didn't come out with her story right away.

I have been hot and cold with AOC and I expected her to seek the limelight in the wake of the insurrection, either for her ego or for political aspirations.

But she didn't. I like that.

And I appreciate this peek at her humanity, coming second hand as it does. It makes me feel warmer toward her.

I know what you are talking about but I don't think that is the case here at all since she didn't 'parade' it and - love her or not - she has been taken seriously for quite a while. It's actually demeaning toward her that you would suggest that she isn't.

[PatrickforO]

36. She is fine young lady. Speaking as a father and grandfather, I can tell you that

her father would for sure be very, very proud of her.

She is outstanding, courageous, smart, and articulate. I think we can look forward to great things from AOC, as well as the rest of the Squad, and certainly Katie Porter. These are amazing people. Our party is building huge bench strength.

[rburns24]

37. AOC

She is smart, very politically aware and more than a decent person.
She has courage in abundance and is one of the very best faces of what
the Democratic party should represent going forward. I will be always cheering
for her. She represents on of the best examples of American humanity and dignity.

[AmyStrange]

61. Welcome to the DU!

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Well said, by the way.
==========

[Escurumbele]

39. Never understood the rejection of her that some DU members had. She is fantastic, smart,

doesn't take crap from the idiots of the republican party, has her heart in the right place, and I strongly believe she will make a great president in the future.

[Dem4Life1102]

42. It is remarkable they haven't voiced

any sympathy for what she went through.

[Hassin Bin Sober]

46. Let them stew in their own juices.

[Dem4Life1102]

96. Their silence speaks volumes.

[My Pet Orangutan]

63. I'll have a go-

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I am on the left of the party. I supported Elizabeth Warren, I supported her policies.

The Democratic Socialists of America, the Sunrise Movement, the Justice Democrats, all mounted a vicious, unprincipled campaign of lies against Warren. They wanted Bernie. They wanted power. They did not give a damn about outcomes.

AOC is their public face. The modus operandi is attacking the Democratic Party. They continue a corrosive, guerrilla war against all those who would get in the way of their rise to power.

If AOC renounced the Justice 'Democrats' et al., I might take her seriously. There is a well worn path from insurgent to leader. AOC ain't on it.

[Dem4Life1102]

72. Yet...

Link to tweet

?s=21

[My Pet Orangutan]

77. I remember.

I also remember AOC being on TYT - and deflecting not disputing their vile slurs against Senator Warren..

[Dem4Life1102]

97. Post a link

To that please.

And apparently Warren doesn't have a problem working with AOC: https://www.warren.senate.gov/newsroom/press-releases/warren-ocasio-cortez-to-introduce-pandemic-anti-monopoly-actread-one-pager-here

[George II]

120. Once elected they all work together, but it goes deeper than that. Remember when Warren....

....confronted Sanders about lying about her on national television in that famous after-debate video? They work together now. They probably don't go out to dinner together though.

Just because people in the House and Senate work together doesn't mean they don't remember the bitterness of campaigns.

[Dem4Life1102]

121. And when has AOC attacked Warren?

Please post a link.

[George II]

122. Read #77 again, he didn't say she "attacked" Warren, but didn't defend Warren when TYT attacked her.

[Dem4Life1102]

123. Post a link to that then

[George II]

124. Why?

[Dem4Life1102]

125. Why not?

An accusation was made and I’m asking for proof.

When I did a YouTube search for Warren and AOC all I found was these:

[Celerity]

152. I would like to see a link too

I will add this to AOC's defence of Warren (when the neocon Jennifer Rubin smeared Warren with a misogynistic framing after a debate). Not only that, but it was a defence by AOC of a competitor running against AOC's endorsed choice for POTUS, which further shows her sincerity.

I really tire of these attempts (obviously not you, Dem4Life) by some to start up or rekindle a divisive Democratic slow-burn, never-ending internal war simply to take shots at (in thsi case) an elected Democratic woman who just went through a nightmarish episode at the hand of Trumpian seditious white nationalist vermin. So ironic as they are doing exactly what some of the entities they claim to dislike (or outright hate) are doing in terms of spinning up division.

AOC defends Elizabeth Warren against 'misogynistic trope' after Democratic debate

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-election/aoc-warren-misogynstic-trope-democratic-debate-bloomberg-attack-a9348796.html

Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez has defended Elizabeth Warren against criticism of her Las Vegas debate performance, saying a critique calling the Massachusetts senator “mean and angry” was a “misogynistic trope”. Ms Ocasio-Cortez, who has endorsed Ms Warren’s opponent Bernie Sanders, argued in a series of tweets that the Massachusetts senator's searing attacks on billionaire Michael Bloomberg — which led to considerable positive media attention and a strong day of fundraising for her — showed she is strong, and that some of the responses have been sexist.

“Warren was not mean, nor angry. She was effective,” Ms Ocasio-Cortez said. “And by the way, we are allowed to be angry about racial profiling, You’re allowed to be angry about sexual harassment. Or at big banks committing fraud against single parents. Anger at injustice is quite appropriate.”

Ms Ocasio-Cortez continued: “It’s truly time to retire the misogynistic trope that angry men are powerful, yet angry women are unhinged. “It’s such gaslighting nonsense,” she said. “You SHOULD be mad at abuse of power. The real question is how one channels that energy into positive change that creates justice.”

Link to tweet

[George II]

87. Regarding your last point that'll never happen. She was the first Board Member of Justice Democrats.

[My Pet Orangutan]

89. Indeed she was.

The JD's are an anathema to me. Ipso facto, so is AOC.

[Gothmog]

93. I am on a Just Us Democrats mailing list

The Just Us Democrats are continuing to attack members of the Party. The Just Us Democrats e-mails are very sad but amusing. I have no desire to support the Just Us Democrats attacks on the Democratic Party and I do not support the Just Us Democrat goal of forcing Joe Biden to adopt their policies. I was amused to see that this group failed to meet the fundraising goals for January even after lowering their target. Yes AOC is the face of this group and AOC is mentioned in many of the Just Us Democrat emails.

BTW, all three of my kids were Warren supporters. I attended and met Joe at two fund raisers in 2019. At one of these fundraisers, I met the parents of my middle child's best friend and we compared notes about our children's favorite candidate. I texted my middle child that the parents of her best friend was at this fundraiser and she responded that she knew this because her friend's parents texted her that they met me. My middle child and her best friend agreed that their parents were "shits". All three kids now agree that Warren could not have beaten trump (trump came within 45,000 votes of flipping the electoral college).

[My Pet Orangutan]

94. I also agree that Warren could not have beaten trump.

And I knew she was not gonna be the nominee either. But if someone wanted to talk policy (other than M4A) I was all in.

That's what being a Democrat is about - "Fall in love, then fall in line" - WJC.

[Hekate]

113. Very interesting, Gothmog

Thanks

[Meowmee]

153. Agreed

Her links to jd are what stand out most for me. I expect more attacks on good dems unfortunately.

[betsuni]

154. +1

[NurseJackie]

100. Excellent analysis and excellent post.

I have observed exactly what you've described. The association with Cenk Uygur's "Justice Democrats" or any other anti-Democrat, anti-Democratic Party, pro-Socialist group is just too close for comfort. I do not trust those groups, nor do I trust their motives or intentions. They're toxic and Cenk is a misogynistic asshole who thinks bestiality is okay (as long as the animal is sexually satisfied too. Sick!)

They continue a corrosive, guerrilla war against all those who would get in the way of their rise to power.

When the effort is focused primarily on damaging Democrats rather than defeating vulnerable Republicans and flipping seats... that tells me all I need to know about these types of groups.

Renounce? Well, that would be something, wouldn't it? But you know that's never going to happen.

[My Pet Orangutan]

103. And if someone want's to shoot their mouth off,

slamming the Democratic Party, ala Dennis Kucinich, they will always find a receptive audience on FNC.

[betsuni]

102. I find it ironic that on the Justice Democrats homepage is: "the top of the Democratic Party

is still disproportionally wealthier, whiter, and more male than the base," considering their origins (Jeff Weaver: "Was it too male? Yes. Was it too white? Yes." )

Maybe they should change this considering the top of the Democratic Party (the Biden administration) isn't disproportionally rich white men beholden to the donor class like in their imagination.

[My Pet Orangutan]

105. Black president, black-asian VP

Black Def. Secretary. Native American Interior Secretary.

Karen Bass, Keisha Bottoms, Val Demmings etc. etc.

Lily white.

[NurseJackie]

126. The "Justice Democrats" have an agenda, and it's NOT in support of the Democratic party...

... it's not to strengthen and grow the Democratic party. They exist to exist. They're in it for themselves and for the power-trip and ego-trip. It's all about their own vanities and pride... and their version of what's "pure" or not. Honestly, I can't stand Cenk Uygur's "Justice Democrats." I'm sick of them.

They're out of step with Democrats, the Democratic party, and our nation. They're especially out of step with reality. They cause more division and distrust within our own ranks, and that only serves to WEAKEN our party. Anything that divides and weakens us, only serves to benefit the GOP.

I think it's a legitimate question to ask why anyone would do anything that has the ultimate effect of benefiting the GOP (and Russia). I don't trust Cenk Uygur, or any of his prodigies, or his minions, or his surrogates.

[betsuni]

128. Anyone thinking the Democratic Party is "too big of a tent" and calls Biden a "neoliberal"

doesn't know what the hell they're talking about.

[Escurumbele]

104. You gave it a go, but I don't think its accurate

What unprincipled lies did they say about Warren? The fact they disagreed with policies does not make it vile.

I am one of those who believes that we need to move into more progressive policies, and Warren does too. I do believe that Warren and AOC are closer to the same page than you may think.

I have never seen any disrespect of Warren from AOC.

[jalan48]

83. She challenged a powerful Democrat who was backed by 90+% of the Party and won in 2018.

It offended many here on DU. Some are still offended.


"She was an organizer in Bernie Sanders' 2016 presidential campaign.[12] Backed by the organization Brand New Congress, Ocasio-Cortez challenged Crowley in the June primary alleging that Crowley was not progressive enough for the district...."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2018_New_York%27s_14th_congressional_district_election

[Dem4Life1102]

99. Yes so offended

that they can't offer a single word of sympathy for what she went through but rather continue to attack her.

[klook]

137. No shit.

This thread contains several rather, uh, let’s call them “instructive” posts.


Rep. Ocasio-Cortez is doing a great job, and I appreciate her hard work, intelligence, and leadership. But then I am a member of what Howard Dean called “the Democratic wing of the Democratic Party.”

[Chemisse]

109. I like her a lot - except when she publically feuds within the party.

I like the approach where someone speaks directly to others to work on political solutions, at least as a first step, not straight to the press to garnish the headlines and exert pressure to gain an advantage. I get annoyed when she does that.

On the other hand, she has a ton of great qualities and I love it when she goes after opponents. I agree with most of her stances and I'd love to see them come to fruition.

I think she will be Great, with a capital G. But I am very leery of all the adoration. When I see that, I look for the flaws to maintain a balanced perspective. And because everybody LOVES her so much, when I make note of flaws, people go crazy. Cultism is not healthy.

Oh, and for the record, I thought of her often during the attack in DC. Mostly I worried about Nancy (who I love, and she is so frail) and AOC (because I feel I know her a little) and Pence (he was pitiful and likely never saw it coming) and the poor cop that was being chased.

[Mariana]

111. "And because everybody LOVES her so much..."

Wherever did you get that idea? It couldn't have been from reading the threads about her on DU - including this one.

[Cetacea]

150. Only Obama has more Twitter followers than her among democrats

She should not be penalized because she had a better understanding of the climate emergency than most.

[oregonjen]

43. She has been a huge inspiration to me and my daughter

My daughter is biracial and absolutely loves AOC. Even something as little as the brand and color of her lipstick makes an impression. It may seem shallow, but when my daughter wears the lipstick brand AOC wears, she feels empowered.

[Celerity]

58. Huda Beauty Demi Matte in Game Changer

[Oldem]

47. Damn!

That brings it down to terms even a repug should be able to understand. Oh, my bad. Understanding isn't their strong suit.

[jalan48]

49. We need 200 AOCs in Congress.

[msfiddlestix]

50. My opinion hasn't changed other than to say my regard for her has been elevated higher than ever

I've always held her in high esteem. She's much younger than my own daughter but I always felt highly of her. Now my heart aches and breaks over the ordeals she's faced in her life but most especially on January 6th, 2021...

So far I've caught only snippets of her video revealing her experience that day. What did I see aired on Rachel's and other shows last night, broke my heart to pieces and wept for her as if she was my own daughter. I wanted to reach out to her and hold her tight, tell her what a strong and courageous Woman she is and we're so proud. And to let her know we stand beside her always and forever.

I'm tearing right now recalling her story...

[LittleGirl]

52. Welcome

I looked at her platform and have listened to her questioning techniques and she’s brilliant. I saw it immediately. Sorry it took you so long but welcome. The youngsters need to emulate her and we will have a government of the people and for the people. We need to get rid of the fossils that governed for fossils like them. It’s a new day.

[democrank]

53. She had my support from day one.

I admire her bravery and determination.

[AmyStrange]

55. +100000000000000000000000000000000 x infinity

[MarcATL]

64. What. The Hell.

Took you so long?!?!?

[BobTheSubgenius]

67. That is an excellent observation!

She may be the extreme left of the public face of the Democratic Party, but she isn't THAT extreme. Certainly less polarized than the most extreme of the right's public face.

I just realized that I can't come close to singling out that person, and it may well be that there isn't a singularity, so to speak. Maybe there's a witch's brew of them hanging around the signpost at the end of the spectrum.

Any ideas on who it might be?

[iluvtennis]

74. Yes, I saw that heartbreaking commentary from Katie Porter last night. I've always liked AOC, but

this cements my liking of her as a person. I don't fully agree with all of her policies, but she has a heart and truly cares about this world and people.

[Lucinda]

75. ❤️ ✿❧🌿❧✿ ❤️

[Tom Rinaldo]

79. Loved her from the moment I saw her first primary ad

She just jumped out at me, the same way I feel when first hearing a song from a great but not yet known to me musician on the radio. I knew she would have a learning curve, but I could tell she was special.

Her heart and soul remain totally uncorrupted, and she just gets better at her job every week.

[Hortensis]

80. Well,...no change. She's the nice, intelligent person I thought she was

from other times I've listened to her talk. Affirmed my good impressions of her. Those are independent and in spite of the really bad ones from her support of Sanders' tragic 2016 candidacy and association with the very not-nice, antidemocracy extremists at Just-Us Dems/Brand-Us Congress.

Fwiw, my husband and I can and do like people we wouldn't trust with political power. Lol, we even once did field work for a friend for governor of NV, running on a totally asshole extreme-libertarian campaign, but that was because we knew he couldn't possibly win.

[swift93]

81. People that attack...

AOC quickly find out they are out matched by her logic and wit. Besides, that video demonstrated she is a great dancer!

[Eyeball_Kid]

90. Yes, what she has within her is a lot to admire. Dignity and self-respect are two of them. n/t

[Blue Owl]

101. K&R for visibility

[Bluethroughu]

110. She's the force of the future breaking through!

[colsohlibgal]

114. Loved Her From Day One

Democrats need to not shrink from being Democrats.

My thought is that Reagan changed the arc of the US and not in a good way.

We need a new FDR we shall see if it’s Biden or someone down the line, someone to change tax policy and rates where they were from FDR all the way to Reagan, which includes Republicans Eisenhower, Nixon, and Ford.

I think a lot of folks see something like a 70% upper tax bracket as applying to someone’s entire income. It doesn’t, it just kicks in after you reach astronomical levels of incomes.

[stopdiggin]

115. My opinion hasn't changed all that much (although I appreciate

the new information, and the OP). I've always had a lot of respect -- and thought there was enormous potential. At the same time -- always been pretty leery of blatant adulation -- and some "support" in this case seems to veer perilously close ...

Could we not just take our leaders (and AOC is certainly one of those) as ordinary human beings -- with attendant (and mostly forgivable) flaws, and occasional missteps?

[proud patriot]

116. Huzzah

[honest.abe]

118. +1!

[Turbineguy]

129. She is AMAZING!

[moonscape]

130. Surely hope she doesn't primary Schumer as was hinted yesterday n/t

[trof]

131. I've heard her say some of the smartest things I've ever heard a rep say.

Her insight and command of the language is awe inspiring.

[lordsummerisle]

133. k&r n/t

[Ligyron]

134. She pisses off all the right people as far as I'm concerned.

Right up there with Soros on the right.

[jimlup]

135. She is the rock star of our party

We can all hope that she will be our first woman President. Stay tuned!

[Celerity]

142. Unfortunately the hideous (on so many levels) electoral college blocks her and anyone near here

her in ideological stance from becoming POTUS for many decades, if ever. I truly have to laugh when she and others are labelled 'far left' (even by certain factions within our own party), as not a single Dem (or Bernie) would be anything other than a basic social democratic, a bog standard centre left pol in most all other advanced western nations. Pretty much every major initiative and programme that earn them the faux 'far left' tag in the US are already (and have been for ages) in place in most of the core EU nations. Not only that, but many centre right parties over here support many things that cause so many to scream and pull their hair out and howl 'commie!'.

The US political spectrum and labelling systems are artificially slid to the right to a gobsmacking degree, and the nation as a whole truly suffers for it. The pitiful 7.25 USD federal minimum wage for instance, finally kicked in 11 and half years ago. That 7.25 usd in terms of purchasing power then (2009), is now only around 5.45 usd in purchasing power in 2021, due to inflation, and that is NOT counting vital things that have increased FAR beyond the overall rate of inflation, such as healthcare, housing (in so many areas), and tertiary educational costs.

[jimlup]

143. You have obvious given up

I am sorry that you have.

[Celerity]

146. If I had given up I would not be still attempting to help change things as best I can from thousands

of miles away. I have a large sphere of influence in real life with a lot of expats I know. You will know I have truly given up when I renounce my US citizenship (which is costing me a tonne in double taxation at this point, as the US is basically the only remotely major nation that taxes foreign-earned income (above a certain point, which I have now reached and went well past) for non resident US citizens. This 2020 tax year bill is going to be brutal for me unfortunately (I already pay a shedload in Swedish income tax). The one thing that will instantly cause me to renounce is if the SCOTUS rules that my marriage (I am a married lesbian) is invalid in the US.

[HelpImSurrounded]

136. Women are more than incubators

Oh, now that AOC expresses a desire to have child she has value to you?

I've had respect for her from the beginning. Whether or not her future includes motherhood is irrelevant.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

147. And I thought she had abandoned her bill to force FEMA to

pay for burials of covid victims ( the least our country can do since trump's negligence and self serving ways caused many deaths). Trump told them not to.

But she didn't! It's in some version of the new bill. Only $2b.... Used to be enough to pay for avg burial. (She introduced in May). For some reason it got buried in committee

[GreenEyedLefty]

157. I have always liked and admired her.

Anyone who speaks truth to power without shrinking, cringing, equivocating, walking back, etc. is awesome in my book.

She has been a stellar public servant. Maybe her delivery isn't polished but you can't argue with the substance or her intentions.

I have long thought people's negative opinions of her are rooted in misogyny.