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TuskMoar

(83 posts)
Tue Feb 2, 2021, 02:22 PM Feb 2021

Question about Vaccine Shipments

The CNN article I am going to link at the bottom of this indicates that Biden is increasing shipments of vaccines to retail pharmacies. Overall, that sounds like a really good idea and something I fully support. However, I was under the impression that one of the logistical barriers was that most pharmacies lacked the ability to provide the very cold storage these vaccines require. Am I missing something?

I guess overall, I have just been a bit concerned about the ability to keep these mRNA vaccines cold enough on this scale. I received my first (Pfizer) a week ago and looking forward to my second. But, it was a large scale mass vaccination site. I was worried about them keeping it cold and I hope it is effective. Anyone else worried about this?

https://www.cnn.com/2021/02/02/politics/vaccine-shipments-white-house/index.html

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33taw

(2,440 posts)
1. I am no expert on this subject, but I believe Pfizer is the only vaccine that requires the
Tue Feb 2, 2021, 02:27 PM
Feb 2021

very cold storage.

ProfessorGAC

(65,013 posts)
6. Moderna Too, But Not As Cold
Tue Feb 2, 2021, 02:45 PM
Feb 2021

I can't find the reason why these things so chemically similar have such different denaturation rates. But, for now I'll trust Pfizer's judgment.
IIRC, it was -80 vs. -40.

sweetloukillbot

(11,011 posts)
2. Yeah, because the Biden administration has been Soooo incompetent in their decisions
Tue Feb 2, 2021, 02:37 PM
Feb 2021

I'm sure they NEVER considered how the pharmacies would store the vaccines...

ProfessorGAC

(65,013 posts)
4. CVS Reported, About 3 Weeks Ago...
Tue Feb 2, 2021, 02:42 PM
Feb 2021

...that they were ready in 90% of their geographic reach.
That didn't mean 90% of their stores had cryo cabinets. But, if there was an area that had, for instance, 3 pharmacies within 20 miles, one of them would be prepared.
They're a huge company and they can afford the $6,000 or so to get a small cryocab. Some stores actually already had them.
The store in our small town, (6,000 people) got one. We're 18 miles north of 3 city area of 75,000 and 20 miles south of a metro area of 250k. Yet, they still put one here.
The town 5 miles to our SW, did not get one. But, the town of 8,000 eight miles west (different county) did.
So, I'm prone to believe their 90%.
In truly rural areas, I'm not so sure.

Raven123

(4,831 posts)
5. Vaccines were eventually getting to pharmacies. I think they just cut out a layover in the states
Tue Feb 2, 2021, 02:42 PM
Feb 2021

I assume they have solved the refrigeration issue and as already mentioned, the Pfizer vaccine requires deep refrigeration

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