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Yes! And this is undoubtedly due to the Repub Gov. of WV's statement. (Original Post) MoonRiver Feb 2021 OP
Yeah, good news, but too bad it takes a Repub Governor to push him to the right side of this...nt Wounded Bear Feb 2021 #1
Ain't that the truth! MoonRiver Feb 2021 #5
What the hell, though. I'll take it...nt Wounded Bear Feb 2021 #6
Absolutely! MoonRiver Feb 2021 #20
I Believe Manchin Asked the Gov to Come Out and Give Him Cover to Support Biden's Big Bill Indykatie Feb 2021 #8
You may be right. 'Bout time some sane Repubs surfaced to help out for a change...nt Wounded Bear Feb 2021 #9
Makes sense. I know many here are disappointed in Manchin but spooky3 Feb 2021 #18
Yesterday, I kinda wanted to send a msg to Manchin to more attention to people in his state msfiddlestix Feb 2021 #2
I'll bet it gets more than 50 votes now. Lochloosa Feb 2021 #3
It might... Wounded Bear Feb 2021 #7
Yeah, Justice's statement was very unambiguous. themaguffin Feb 2021 #4
Maybe, but I think he would have anyway Tom Rinaldo Feb 2021 #10
It still doesn't make any sense to me. bearsfootball516 Feb 2021 #12
The only possible objection I remember that he had involved means testing Tom Rinaldo Feb 2021 #15
And I agree with that. The spending ultimately will need to be paid for spooky3 Feb 2021 #19
well that's not what he'll say qazplm135 Feb 2021 #17
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not that many qazplm135 Feb 2021 #22
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you overestimate them qazplm135 Feb 2021 #24
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its been four years qazplm135 Feb 2021 #26
I don't understand why Manchin was opposed to it in the first place. bearsfootball516 Feb 2021 #11
TY.. what did the Gov of WV have Cha Feb 2021 #13
He said that he supports Biden's 1.9T plan over the Republicans plan bearsfootball516 Feb 2021 #14
TY, bears! Amazing! Cha Feb 2021 #16

Indykatie

(3,695 posts)
8. I Believe Manchin Asked the Gov to Come Out and Give Him Cover to Support Biden's Big Bill
Tue Feb 2, 2021, 04:43 PM
Feb 2021

Otherwise there is NO way a Gov in a deep red state would come out with such energetic support for Biden's bill even though WV desperately needs every penny they can get from the government.

spooky3

(34,407 posts)
18. Makes sense. I know many here are disappointed in Manchin but
Tue Feb 2, 2021, 05:12 PM
Feb 2021

His voting record is far more often with Dems than with Reps, and given the nature of West Virginia, I’m amazed that he continues to get their votes. He has to do some fancy dancing.

This is a win for Dems.

msfiddlestix

(7,271 posts)
2. Yesterday, I kinda wanted to send a msg to Manchin to more attention to people in his state
Tue Feb 2, 2021, 04:36 PM
Feb 2021

when it comes to relief then his ambitions to look like he's politically conservative. And to remind him that the filibuster is a jim crow rule, and does he want to continue to be associated with this anti-democratic game?

But something tells me it would be a complete waste of time.

Tom Rinaldo

(22,911 posts)
10. Maybe, but I think he would have anyway
Tue Feb 2, 2021, 04:49 PM
Feb 2021

I don't think he ever actually threatened to block it. He might have played harder to get without that local pressure, which might have meant holding out for some concessions. But Manchin has always been far more supportive of a significant Covid relief package than any of the Repubs were.

bearsfootball516

(6,373 posts)
12. It still doesn't make any sense to me.
Tue Feb 2, 2021, 04:51 PM
Feb 2021

West Virginia is suffering tremendously. How are you supposed to go back to your constituents and say "I fought...to get you LESS!" and expect to win re-election?

Tom Rinaldo

(22,911 posts)
15. The only possible objection I remember that he had involved means testing
Tue Feb 2, 2021, 04:58 PM
Feb 2021

for stimulus checks. He had no problem approving them for hard up families, but wanted them targeted so that those who needed them most got them.

spooky3

(34,407 posts)
19. And I agree with that. The spending ultimately will need to be paid for
Tue Feb 2, 2021, 05:14 PM
Feb 2021

And I would rather not see people who haven’t lost any of their high incomes during this mess receive payments.

qazplm135

(7,447 posts)
17. well that's not what he'll say
Tue Feb 2, 2021, 05:05 PM
Feb 2021

he will point to things like the higher cap on earnings for benefits and say I fought to cut that down so that YOU would get it but not people who don't need it, etc etc.

He is a clear target now. The Dem Senator in one of the most republican states in the country. He's trying to burnish his centrist credentials now to weather that storm. I'm not defending him, just understanding him.

Ultimately, he was always going to be on-board with the majority of it, but he apparently feels he needs to make a show that he's not just going along with everything.

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qazplm135

(7,447 posts)
24. you overestimate them
Tue Feb 2, 2021, 05:51 PM
Feb 2021

I think Trump's here to stay on their side, and they will ultimately not be able to get rid of him.

Response to qazplm135 (Reply #24)

bearsfootball516

(6,373 posts)
11. I don't understand why Manchin was opposed to it in the first place.
Tue Feb 2, 2021, 04:50 PM
Feb 2021

It's an overwhelmingly popular bill amongst both Democrats and Republicans. The only people who don't approve are a handful of people on the far right.

Voting NOT to advance it probably would have hurt him in 2024 more than voting for the 19T package will.

bearsfootball516

(6,373 posts)
14. He said that he supports Biden's 1.9T plan over the Republicans plan
Tue Feb 2, 2021, 04:58 PM
Feb 2021
https://www.wvgazettemail.com/news/health/bucking-party-politics-justice-endorses-bidens-1-9-trillion-pandemic-stimulus-plan/article_9a0d9f09-9ba7-549d-b7a3-59aa40228570.html

“I don’t think that America can go wrong being too high,” Justice said during Monday’s West Virginia COVID-19 briefing. “I think, today, America’s got to go to the higher number.”


“Trying to be, per se, fiscally responsible at this point in time with what we’ve got going on in this country, if we actually throw away some money right now, so what?” the governor told CNN’s Poppy Harlow.
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