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from the House Impeachment memo -- terrifying evidence (Original Post) Grasswire2 Feb 2021 OP
Huh. "Order the National Guard to stand down, if needed..." tinrobot Feb 2021 #1
Yup. nt SunSeeker Feb 2021 #21
Exactly. I hope they bring this up at trial. Maraya1969 Feb 2021 #33
Would like some independent corroboration of this asap. triron Feb 2021 #2
I edited my comment to you. Grasswire2 Feb 2021 #3
You're looking for the memo? pnwmom Feb 2021 #20
Watch this video UpInArms Feb 2021 #6
One of the rioters was heard saying something like, "This is just like we rehearsed" C Moon Feb 2021 #12
"Bring the line forward!" What??? That alone seems conclusive of this being rehearsed. BobTheSubgenius Feb 2021 #22
The mayor called for more troops and .... "The Defense department told her "no thank you"? Maraya1969 Feb 2021 #35
That is EXACTLY my question UpInArms Feb 2021 #37
Hopefully they can identify who said it and then go from there. I think we are going to find out a Maraya1969 Feb 2021 #38
The item has a footnote, number 55. LastDemocratInSC Feb 2021 #11
Here's the footnote. LastDemocratInSC Feb 2021 #15
Here's the 80 page memo written by the Democrats. Is this what you mean? pnwmom Feb 2021 #19
This message was self-deleted by its author triron Feb 2021 #23
Guess that would be it. I am being educated here. triron Feb 2021 #25
can't help but think that Repugs will not find this meaningful. riversedge Feb 2021 #4
I hope this opens up big and wide. Baked Potato Feb 2021 #5
It's going to have to be made really clear on ALL media platforms if the republicans let trump slide BComplex Feb 2021 #31
Agreed. It's the worst thing a sitting President can be part of Baked Potato Feb 2021 #32
Wasn't this treason? He attacked his own damn country! Maraya1969 Feb 2021 #36
still doesn't say anything about "directing" stopdiggin Feb 2021 #7
"Awareness" is pretty much conclusive as to guilt or innocence, wouldn't you say? BobTheSubgenius Feb 2021 #24
more or less agree stopdiggin Feb 2021 #29
Holy Moly. I didn't quite understand Dan Scavino's level of "intimacy" with a staff of 22 msfiddlestix Feb 2021 #8
I have absolutely no doubt of Trump's guilt malaise Feb 2021 #9
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That whole party the Trump's had with the big tv, looked damning in and of itself. C Moon Feb 2021 #13
+1,000 malaise Feb 2021 #16
Even playing down the seriousness in the glaring light of evidence and the luxury of examining BobTheSubgenius Feb 2021 #26
All that traffic, yet bucolic_frolic Feb 2021 #14
That's what I want to know. etc. triron Feb 2021 #18
There doesn't have to be more than we already know about (though I bet there is). There wiggs Feb 2021 #17
That orange POS is just the type to encourage assassinations. BlancheSplanchnik Feb 2021 #27
I wonder how many of these people got Covid on Jan 6th ... aggiesal Feb 2021 #28
And there was a memo from Chris Miller vapor2 Feb 2021 #30
K&R... spanone Feb 2021 #34
Fucking lock him up already Blue Owl Feb 2021 #39

tinrobot

(10,895 posts)
1. Huh. "Order the National Guard to stand down, if needed..."
Tue Feb 2, 2021, 06:11 PM
Feb 2021

And that is exactly what happened, for a few hours at least.

Damning.

Maraya1969

(22,478 posts)
33. Exactly. I hope they bring this up at trial.
Wed Feb 3, 2021, 01:51 PM
Feb 2021

3 hours for one member of the National Guard to show up after the mayor of DC asked for them. THREE HOURS.

UpInArms

(51,280 posts)
6. Watch this video
Tue Feb 2, 2021, 06:27 PM
Feb 2021



At 2:33 on the video, someone announced the defense department would not be sending

Reinforcements... the crowd cheers ... how did they know that?

BobTheSubgenius

(11,563 posts)
22. "Bring the line forward!" What??? That alone seems conclusive of this being rehearsed.
Tue Feb 2, 2021, 07:52 PM
Feb 2021

If you were randomly part of the crowd there, or part of a small group from Elk Groin WY, how would you possibly know exactly what "Bring the line forward" means?

Obviously that it's in English with correct syntax means we all know the literal definition, but what specifically is the order being given in this context? "Am I part of this line?" "Should I be joining the line, and if so, where are they?" "Forward to where?"

Unless they've been drilled specifically for this, even trained soldiers would not necessarily know exactly what to do.

Maraya1969

(22,478 posts)
35. The mayor called for more troops and .... "The Defense department told her "no thank you"?
Wed Feb 3, 2021, 01:55 PM
Feb 2021

How did whoever that was know that?

Maraya1969

(22,478 posts)
38. Hopefully they can identify who said it and then go from there. I think we are going to find out a
Wed Feb 3, 2021, 02:44 PM
Feb 2021

during the Senate trial. I am looking forward to it

LastDemocratInSC

(3,647 posts)
15. Here's the footnote.
Tue Feb 2, 2021, 07:16 PM
Feb 2021

55 Andrew Feinberg, White House Insiders Say Trump Knew What Was About To Happen At The Capitol—
Because of His Social Media Guru Dan Scavino, Independent (Jan. 12, 2021).

Response to pnwmom (Reply #19)

BComplex

(8,037 posts)
31. It's going to have to be made really clear on ALL media platforms if the republicans let trump slide
Wed Feb 3, 2021, 11:33 AM
Feb 2021

They have to vote to convict him. They should each and all be publicly shamed if they don't.

stopdiggin

(11,296 posts)
7. still doesn't say anything about "directing"
Tue Feb 2, 2021, 06:31 PM
Feb 2021

And I think a lot of us were long ago convinced there was "awareness" -- hopefully not only within the WH, but also by our security agencies. What a smoking gun looks like to us, are operational plans to storm the Capital (and kill or capture?) -- with cooperation and collusion traced to official sources.

BobTheSubgenius

(11,563 posts)
24. "Awareness" is pretty much conclusive as to guilt or innocence, wouldn't you say?
Tue Feb 2, 2021, 07:57 PM
Feb 2021

Even if the evidence of what is happening, or about to happen, randomly lands in their laps, they should be doing SOMETHING to forestall the catastrophe. Even failing to do something effective in saving life and property would mitigate any guilt, as long as a good-faith effort was made.

My 2 cents.

stopdiggin

(11,296 posts)
29. more or less agree
Tue Feb 2, 2021, 10:33 PM
Feb 2021

but my point is -- that standard has already been fully met?
Upping the ante -- to a place where the general public would agree that this man is certainly guilty of, and should be convicted of, actively promoting sedition and illegal actions (i.e. a riot at the Capital) -- probably means going to the next level proof? After all, Trump has been criminally reckless and dangerous with his speech -- since well before he took office.

msfiddlestix

(7,278 posts)
8. Holy Moly. I didn't quite understand Dan Scavino's level of "intimacy" with a staff of 22
Tue Feb 2, 2021, 06:55 PM
Feb 2021

foot soldiers. Every. Single. One. of these people need to be indicted.

malaise

(268,931 posts)
9. I have absolutely no doubt of Trump's guilt
Tue Feb 2, 2021, 06:58 PM
Feb 2021

none whatsoever. No one who was paying attention has any doubt.
He should die in prison.

That ReTHUGs are attempting to play down the seriousness of this criminality is unbelievable.

BobTheSubgenius

(11,563 posts)
26. Even playing down the seriousness in the glaring light of evidence and the luxury of examining
Tue Feb 2, 2021, 07:59 PM
Feb 2021

and considering the various facets takes them to a level of culpability. Accomplices after the fact, so to speak.

wiggs

(7,812 posts)
17. There doesn't have to be more than we already know about (though I bet there is). There
Tue Feb 2, 2021, 07:34 PM
Feb 2021

doesn't have to be explicit 'direction'...doesn't have to be a direct connection to the specific actions taken by the insurrectionists...we don't need to hear a phone call between Trump or spawn and the viking helmet guy...

...what we already know represents MASSIVE irresponsibility, GIGANTIC dereliction of duty, probable illegality, HUGE embarrassment on the world stage, ENORMOUS erosion of US as a beacon of democracy, EXTREME violation of oath of office...a culmination of the worst 4 years of presidential history. All of which are supremely impeachable in a health senate.

I hope the impeachment managers make it clear this is not a criminal trial and that undermining of democracy over several months represents a COMPLETE FAILURE of presidential duty warranting conviction. There don't need to be debates of fine points here...this is crystal clear.

aggiesal

(8,911 posts)
28. I wonder how many of these people got Covid on Jan 6th ...
Tue Feb 2, 2021, 08:48 PM
Feb 2021

but in contact tracing, they never mention being at the Capitol building because it could
implicate them with sedition, or they could lose their jobs.

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