Russia's Sputnik V vaccine has 92% efficacy in trial

[Klaralven]

Russia's Sputnik V coronavirus vaccine gives around 92% protection against Covid-19, late stage trial results published in The Lancet reveal.

It has also been deemed to be safe - and offer complete protection against hospitalisation and death.

The vaccine was initially met with some controversy after being rolled out before the final trial data had been released.

But scientists said its benefit has now been demonstrated.

It joins the ranks of proven vaccines alongside Pfizer, Oxford/AstraZeneca, Moderna and Janssen.

https://www.bbc.com/news/health-55900622

[BlueTsunami2018]

1. Good for them.

I suppose they hacked the info right out of Pfizer’s database.

[Klaralven]

2. This vaccine is not an mRNA vaccine. It is more like the AstraZeneca and J&J vaccines.

[BlueTsunami2018]

4. Ok well, the joke still works.

Except I’m not really joking.

[LisaL]

6. The joke really isn't funny if it doesn't make sense.

NT

[BlueTsunami2018]

15. It makes sense if you're not a vaccine nerd.

[LisaL]

8. Russian vaccine has a somewhat unique design in that it's using

different vectors for first and second dose.
J&J is of course a single dose vaccine but that might be making it less effective.

[bullimiami]

3. The line offer complete protection against hospitalisation and death

Seems pretty scetchy.

[LisaL]

7. The same is true of Johnson and Johnson vaccine.

NT

[bullimiami]

9. J&J is claiming to offer complete protection against hospitalization and death?

[LisaL]

12. Yes.

"In a study of more than 43,000 people, the vaccine prevented 66% of moderate to severe cases of Covid-19, according to a company statement Friday. And it was particularly effective at stopping severe disease, preventing 85% of severe infections and 100% of hospitalizations and deaths."

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-01-29/j-j-single-dose-vaccine-provides-strong-shield-against-covid-19

[TeamPooka]

5. only small traces of polonium in each dose.

[bullimiami]

10. only some doses come with polonium. its the friends and family plan.

[Dagstead Bumwood]

11. As a bonus you become

your own night light.

[Tanuki]

13. Great news. The more good vaccines, the better. More of the world's

people will be spared the worst effects of this devastating disease. I applaud the Russian scientists for their work in making this happen, just as I applaud our own and our allies' scientists.


🌝💉

[Azathoth]

14. The data come from Moscow. I think a little skepticism is in order

The article strikes me as extremely credulous. The idea that Putin's government couldn't massage data gathered in its own capital seems a bit naive.

[LisaL]

16. The study is published in one of the best international journals.

NT

[Azathoth]

18. That's an appeal to snobbery. The Lancet has had many retractions

over the years.

Here's one they had to retract about our old friend hydroxychloroquine.

Link

And incidentally, I was referring to the BBC article. I haven't read the original Lancet article.

[LisaL]

20. Well, bbc article is talking about the study published in Lancet.

NT

[Silent3]

17. I definitely wouldn't have trusted the Russian vaccine early on...

...because all the motivations were there to claim a vaccine success for show, and all the ability to hide failure and fake success were in place too. It just seemed way too rushed.

So it's amazing, and a pleasant surprise, to have independent confirmation of the vaccine's efficacy.

That said, I still think it's pretty clear that Russia must have cut corners on safety, and if the vaccine is both safe and effective, there's luck to thank for that too, not just technical skill.

[LisaL]

19. We are not going to see it in the US, because Russia

is not going to ask for FDA approval. So chances of us getting it is zero (whether we would get it or not).

[Silent3]

21. I was only speaking hypothetically about taking it...

...and not expecting it to show up in the US at all.

But it does mean one more supplier for possibly many other parts of the world, and that's a good thing.

[hunter]

22. Never underestimate Russian engineering.

Sputnik indeed.



https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sputnik_1

My grandfather and my dad probably owe much of their careers to Sputnik.

That little satellite scared the shit out of "conservative" U.S.A. so badly it convinced them to spend some serious money on science and technology.

In Star Trek utopia all those brilliant engineers of Earth are working together for the common good.