No charges recommended for officer who shot Ashli Babbitt during Capitol riot, source says

[Gothmog]

This lady was committing a crime. I have no problem with this decision https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/no-charges-recommended-officer-who-shot-ashli-babbitt-during-capitol-n1256522?fbclid=IwAR1ZJy1zQINW3nr2WsMU_ApUZ_QvMT_nusevCWUE33WBnKIz4YQuexk2RBs

Investigators have determined the Capitol Police officer who shot and killed Ashli Babbitt during the U.S. Capitol riot should not be charged with any crimes, a law enforcement source familiar with the investigation told NBC News.

The Wall Street Journal first reported that police investigators have recommended the officer not be charged, although the U.S. Attorney's Office will make the final decision on the matter.

Babbitt, a 35-year-old Air Force veteran and ardent supporter of former President Donald Trump, was shot during the Jan. 6 storming of the U.S. Capitol.

The pro-Trump rioters wanted to stop the certification of President Joe Biden’s win in the 2020 presidential election and were threatening members of Congress and then-Vice President Mike Pence, who were evacuated as the mob made its way closer to and eventually inside the Capitol Building.

[msongs]

1. the guy deserves a high honor for saving the nation (one doubts he'd accept) nt

[OAITW r.2.0]

2. Good.

[dalton99a]

3. The cop did what was necessary.

[Blue_true]

8. One news article that I read detailed how it went down.

He gave her every chance to back away, even after she was trying to get through the broken window.

[Cha]

21. TY for that report.

[Gothmog]

40. The idiots who used to post on the Discussionist are convinced that the officer will be charged

These idiots believe that this terrorist is some sort of hero. It is really cute and adorable

[USALiberal]

4. Good!! nt

[Blue_true]

5. There are unjustified shootings, but that was not one of them. nt

[Crunchy Frog]

13. I've seen the cops do less soul searching after a naked execution.

[Blue_true]

14. Yep. nt

[badboy67]

6. Fine by me!

[madaboutharry]

7. This is a good decision.

[Crunchy Frog]

9. It's insane that they would even consider it.

That's what white privilege looks like.

All the seditionists who were present with her should be charged for her murder. That's how it normally works. Not surprised that they're going soft on them though.

[Atticus]

18. Agree. nt

[radius777]

28. Exactly. More of them should've been shot far earlier.

The fact that they got that far into the building without shots being fired is a testament to white privilege and the cops' right wing bias.

The officer who shot this insurrectionst woman is a hero as it prevented the mob from getting into the Speaker's Lobby and possibly taking hostages and/or killing members of Congress.

[RockRaven]

10. That officer deserves an award for remaining calm and restrained under pressure and a

Fucking Official In-Writing Apology for being placed in that position by people higher up the chain.

[Blue_true]

15. The Capitol Police leader on the day of the riot started the process.

The new Chief apparently was obligated to follow the process.

If it was a thorough review of the shooting, I would be ok with that, it should be done for every officer involved shooting.

[bottomofthehill]

22. Any time you discharge your weapon there is an investigation.

I am glad they followed the process and I am happy that they found this to be justified. That said, the officer involved still has the terrible burden to bear that he took a life. He took in in the performance of his duty and did what he had to do, but he still has to live with taking a life.

I hope he finds comfort in the fact that his action saved both lives and our democracy.

[Blue_true]

23. Yes. He did the right thing, but he will carry that burden for life.

Some people like killing other people, the vast majority don’t.

[crickets]

24. Well said. nt

[radius777]

29. I see no burden, he killed a terrorist, same as when Seal Team Six took out OBL. /nt

[bottomofthehill]

34. Unless you are blood thirsty, there is a burden.

If you have a soul, there is a burden, even when it is a justified shooting, there is a burden.

[electric_blue68]

11. Good.

[LuvNewcastle]

12. You breaks into a government building, you takes your chances.

[Flaleftist]

16. Good. He was doing his job.

[Ritabert]

17. Totally justified

She was warned to stand down and didn't. As the right wing said about George Floyd..."Why didn't he listen to instructions?"

[VarryOn]

19. Cops always get the benefit of the doubt from me...

I was never in doubt on this one.

Still, I feel bad he was put in a situation where deadly force was necessary. I hope he's doing OK.

[MyNameGoesHere]

20. Shooting a Nazi is never a crime.

[haele]

25. If she had got through, it would have been a breach...

both physically and more importantly, psychologically to the crowd behind her. If she had gotten through, they would all have swarmed in behind her, even if the police in the hallway started shooting. The police would have had to then hold the hallway, without the admittedly slight protection of those heavy doors.

It was critical to hold those doors until everyone was cleared out of the House chambers. She couldn't be allowed to breach the doors.

Haele

[moonscape]

26. He saved untold lives by slowing them down. n/t

[Gore1FL]

27. I am honestly shocked it took that long and that much for shots to be fired.

That more people weren't killed is kind of amazing given the gravity of the situation. There are plenty of self-defense, and defense-of-others arguments to be had here. This is not so much when police kill minorities with reckless abandon with the excuse of being in fear for their life.

[SunSeeker]

30. He was defending Congresspeople from a crazed insurrectionist jumping in through a broken window.

It is not even a close call. Not only was he justified, he was a hero.

[c-rational]

31. +1

[Jack-o-Lantern]

32. Well Ms. Babbitt, you fuck with the bull you get the horns.

[Progressive Jones]

33. Charges??? That officer deserves medals and praise !!! nt

[sir pball]

35. He should be fined $1000

For every round he had left in the magazine.

[cwydro]

38. Wow, interesting.

No further comment.

[irisblue]

36. WSJ article

Source-https://www.wsj.com/articles/officer-who-shot-capitol-rioter-ashli-babbitt-shouldnt-be-charged-investigators-recommend-11612222798

snip-"The officer, a lieutenant, was essentially serving as a potential last line of defense between the rioters and members of Congress, thus providing some justification for his actions and falling well short of the standard necessary to charge a police officer with a civil-rights violation for a shooting, the people said.

“That’s where he drew the line in the sand,” a fellow Capitol Police officer said, adding that the lieutenant, whose police powers have been suspended, is expected to return to his previous status, though he is afraid of being retaliated against by Trump supporters."

more at source.


I have no sympathy for her.

I have a great of sympathy for the officer

[Old Crow]

37. Good decision.

Now that the necessary review is completed, can we get the officer a commendation? He remained calm and steadfast while being vastly outnumbered by a screaming mob. He performed his duty perfectly, while being denied the kind of support he ought to have had from those in charge. Many would have failed under those circumstances. He deserves recognition.

[Gothmog]

39. This lady was a terrorist

Link to tweet

[tblue37]

41. She was a direct threat to the legislators.

[Scurrilous]

42. K&R