Manchin screws Democrats

[angrychair]

With Manchin's virtue signaling to Republicans that he will stop any Democratic progress in the Senate we have likely lost the House and Senate to Republicans.

This could not be a more epic disaster.

[SkeezerRedux]

1. Somebody here is paying attention.

We hold both houses by a razor's edge margin and there's still one Dem buffoon who thinks he can reason with the GOPers by screwing over his own colleagues.

[BGBD]

2. gee

or maybe he already knows some republicans are going to vote for it.


But please do continue to openly bash the senator holding the hardest seat in a 1 vote majority.

[SkeezerRedux]

3. I could always be wrong, but...

I still believe the constituents who put a pol in office do so to see positive results. Not merely waffling on important legislation in order to keep the seat.

But I get your concern.

[angrychair]

6. So our only alternative

Is to have the whole Party held hostage to whims and prognostications of a single red state Democrat?

[SkeezerRedux]

8. +1

Whoop. There it is.

[uponit7771]

13. No, please stop giving the kGOP any benefit of the doubt and there are 49 other senators holding ...

... seats that have a vote not just Manchin.

[BGBD]

20. Are there any holding

seats in places Trump won by 40 points? No? Ok, so posting 20 threads a day to beat on a guy who we can't replace with anything other than a Trump clone is a bad idea.

[Cetacea]

4. I'm guessing that the people who voted for him would prefer 1400 now

He's just acting.

[SkeezerRedux]

5. I'm thinking...

there might be a career in politics for you, too, one day.

Good observation and I hope you're right.

[SkeezerRedux]

7. Big brass ones. You either got 'em or you don't.

https://www.democraticunderground.com/10181463743

[jorgevlorgan]

9. He can virtue signal all he wants

That won't change the fact that any future political capital he receives depends on a yes vote on the bill regardless of its contents. I will bet that it could have 10k checks for every member of every species for eternity and he would still vote for it after crying foul the whole time.

[EndlessWire]

10. I'm sick of this guy.

Whose side is he on, again?

[Buckeyeblue]

11. This is politics. He's decided to seize upon what he sees is an opportunity

I'm sure there is something that he wants. And it isn't to be a no vote on covid relief. If he votes no on covid relief he'll never get anything...except a primary challenger next time around.

[vercetti2021]

12. If he wants to screw his own constituents

They'll make him remember when he's up for reelection.

[Cosmocat]

14. The $15 minimum wage is an over reach for this particular bill

We 100% need to do something with a significant increase for the minimum wage, but Manchin is not wrong on his point with this particular aspect.

Also ... I get the appeal of trying to throw it into the C19 relief bill because they think they won't get the support to do it, but it also might be politics to help get the C19 relief bill passed with some of the things like the aid to states that Rs are righting, using this as something they can take off the table to get it it passed, as well knowing trying to do it shows a commitment it is they can't find a way to get it passed stand alone ... It very well could be politics in a number of ways for the dem leadership.

Just throwing this out.

[ecstatic]

15. I agree. Nt

[Thrill]

16. He's the reason the Recovery act wasn't bigger

They always have to bend to this guy and his shitty little state

[StarfishSaver]

17. That's a bit extreme

[angrychair]

19. I hope you're right

But having Manchin dog every legislative action of Dems in the Senate, thereby stalling any real progress of Biden's agenda, will discourage voters that already see House and especially Senate Dems, as weak and ineffective against Republicans.

The impact I'm worried about is disaffected and/or disenfranchised Dem voters that lose faith in Dems ability to do anything productive in the Senate and just don't show up to vote.

Why would they vote for more stagnation and hand wringing?

[Hotler]

18. harder, faster Joe, oh, that's the spot, don't stop........ nt