Manchin a few moments ago: "If it's $1.9 trillion, so be it." "If it's a little smaller than that

[riversedge]

Hoping it is the full amount.




The Recount
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Important bite from Sen. Joe Manchin (D-WV) just now on COVID relief bill: "If it's $1.9 trillion, so be it."

"If it's a little smaller than that and we find a targeted need, then that's what we're going to be."

Link to tweet

?s=20

[mucifer]

1. Someone really does like attention

[msfiddlestix]

2. Huh?????? Which is it Joe?

Is he on medication? wtf is it about his whiplash on again, off again?

I suspect the bit about his not supporting the $15 min wage caused a huge backlash among the voters of WV. I mean, one of the poorest states in the country, suffering from opioid crises for years devastating the lives impacted by it, I understand they're doing well with the Covid crises, but still, opposing the bill unless rejected a $15 min wage? seriously messed up.

[OAITW r.2.0]

5. Tis a headscratcher....

For the reason's you mentioned, I really don't understand this guy's political calculus. He could have his fair share of the stimulus, especially considering the transition the energy market is undergoing with regards to coal.

[msfiddlestix]

6. Maybe some reporter will do a deep dive into this

Something is just too weird. So many other opportunities to pitch a fit about bi-partisanship, or the lack of it before now and the end of Biden's first term. but on something like this, really?

[lagomorph777]

9. 60% of WV residents are in poverty. Hard to believe they'd reject a raise.

[msfiddlestix]

11. That's a significant ratio

Maybe math isn't Manchin's strong suit. ? It isn't for me either, but I do know that 60% poverty suggests majority of the people live in conditions that a $15 min would mean for their lives. And I think they might even vote,

[Hoyt]

16. To be fair, I don't think Manchin is against help for those in poverty.

$75,000 income -- single person -- in WV ain't poverty.

[jcgoldie]

20. $15/hr full time is $30k not 75k

40 hr work week is about 2000 hrs/yr.

[Hoyt]

21. Talking about stimulus and $75K threshold. Neither the video or tweet addresses minimum wage.

[jcgoldie]

19. Depends who he's talking to it seems

Wasn’t the interview yesterday in which he insisted it had to be bipartisan on foxnews?

Joe likes to tell folks what they want to hear a little I think.

I’d say watch what he does not what he says and he tends to vote with the party most of the time when it matters.

[bearsfootball516]

3. He'll end up falling in line for the 1.9T plan.

He's just trying to posturize for WV conservatives.

[dsp3000]

23. this. You guys need to realize this is a ruby red state. he has to play the bad cop for his image

I'm hoping i'm not wrong and he will fall in line.

This relief package is extremely popular among the electorate including republican voters and i just dont see how this can hurt him politically if he goes along with it.

[uponit7771]

4. I don't understand his logic behind going smaller with the CV package. His reasoning for graduated .

... minimum wage makes sense on its face but looking at his CV package logic I'm sure that's full of illogic too

[Wounded Bear]

8. The min wage increase is graduated...

the full $15 doesn't kick in for two years, at least.

Hell, it's already about 10 years behind inflation.

[uponit7771]

12. Manchin said on MJ 15hr for a small town in WV wouldn't help were 15 is just a start in NY, that

... makes senses so the MW should be graduated relative to minimum living for each county for instance.

[Johnny2X2X]

7. He will support the $1.9 Trillion, but will also listen to amendments Reps offer during this process

Very reasonable to me. If they can target it a little better for those who really need it and save a couple hundred Billion it's still a great bill that will accomplish what it's meant to. If that's what it takes to pass it, good. If that means it gets a few Republican votes, good too.

[PRETZEL]

13. I think that's only part of it,

for whatever it's worth, Manchin does find himself in a pretty good position, not only personally, but also for WV.

There are alot of federal organizations in West Virginia, thanks in great part to the late Senator Byrd. His passing took a great deal of their ability to continue with that.

Chances are that the amount of new federal agencies opening operations in the state has diminished.

It's just as possible that Manchin not only sees this as a way to become more relevant within the state.

[Turin_C3PO]

14. I think it will cost us

in 2022 if the $1400 is targeted more than the last two. People who got the previous stimulus but miss out on this one may very well take it out on Dems in the next elections. Plus it’s better that some get it who don’t need it than vice-versa.

[Blaukraut]

10. Seems like he's pandering to the audience of each channel he's on

On Fox, he sounds like he's ready to screw the Dems and Biden, on CNN he sounds like he's still weighing his options, and on MSNBC he's all ready to give in and vote for the damn thing.

[Popcorn 51]

15. Are small businesses exempt from the $15? nt

[Fiendish Thingy]

17. Is he still demanding bipartisan support? That was his condition for his vote until now. Nt

[BlueLucy]

18. We need to call Manchin and pretend we live in WV

Tell him bi-partisan doesn't have to mean senators. It can mean support from Governors.

[DeminPennswoods]

22. WVa is such a poor state

I don't know why Manchin doesn't want more from a bill that will help his state.