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misanthrope

(7,411 posts)
Wed Feb 3, 2021, 05:16 PM Feb 2021

Haven't seen this discussed here: Charles Blow's call for a "reverse Great Migration"

https://finance.yahoo.com/finance/news/blacks-should-move-to-the-south-to-gain-greater-political-economic-power-nyt-columnist-charles-blow-140625014.html

Excerpts:
“They could control the Senate seats for up to 14 senators, they could control more electoral college votes in California and New York state combined. That's what state power looks like.”

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The South is prime for this reclamation of power, Blow explained, because Blacks will “never be a large enough percentage of the population in the West to have any real power. The thing about the South is that many of these states are already about a third Black.”

“It doesn't take that many Black people to move back to the South in order to change the dynamic,” he said, adding that it would give African Americans greater political power and enable Black states and communities to demand necessary allocation of resources, and enact policies favorable to minority communities.

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I like Mr. Blow's work but I feel he is sincerely misguided with this perspective. He speaks of his positive experiences growing up in a majority-Black city in Louisiana. He went to a HBCU. He moved north to a majority-white area and now has returned to a majority-Black city in Georgia. Of course he feels good about it.

Thing is, the rest of the South isn't Atlanta. The ATL is a bustling, thriving modern metropolis. A great deal of the South doesn't fit that description, as evidenced by the abundance of ambitious Black Southerners who relocate to Atlanta from all over the region in order to realize their potential.

The shape and tone of the modern GOP is due to Southern culture and politics overtaking the party. That's what the South is, a place where the residents have been steeped in that for centuries.

And even in the ATL, you don't think Black folks get anxious when they see blue lights? Anyone remember Rayshard Brooks? While Jim Crow might not exist in legal code down South anymore, that doesn't mean corruption doesn't thrive or that the attitudes have dissipated. One exceptionally close electoral run off in Georgia does not a steady trend make.

He pointed to Black public officials in various majority-Black Southern cities. What he failed to acknowledge are the predominantly white suburbs that encase those cities. The white folks didn't disappear, they just moved out of the city limits. And in Southern states, those lily-white, old boy networks control the state politics. Given the proper motivation, they would find ways to gerrymander Black citizens into as much irrelevancy as they could get away with.

From the white South's visceral reaction to Obama, I can already tell you what their reaction would be to such a "Reverse Great Migration." It wouldn't be pretty.

Pull Black voters from Pennsylvania, Illinois and Michigan to send them down South and what you would do is erase the razor-thin margins Democrats have in those northern states -- giving those electoral votes to the GOP -- and further disenfranchise those who moved South into overwhelmingly white states.
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Haven't seen this discussed here: Charles Blow's call for a "reverse Great Migration" (Original Post) misanthrope Feb 2021 OP
would be easier for dems of every type to flood WY, SD, ND, ID, MT - needs far fewer ppl to move msongs Feb 2021 #1
Yep misanthrope Feb 2021 #2
Maybe if remote work remains a possibility? wryter2000 Feb 2021 #4
Undoubtedly, it is gorgeous. misanthrope Feb 2021 #5
Better create some jobs for them in those states... 2naSalit Feb 2021 #3
Real estate prices in the more desirable parts of those states are going through the roof. BluesRunTheGame Feb 2021 #6
Yes, climate change will make living in the South unbearable in our lifetimes. meadowlander Feb 2021 #8
Hurricane season already lasts half the year. misanthrope Feb 2021 #9
I thought that Californians were moving to WY, ID and MT at a pretty good rate already. Klaralven Feb 2021 #10
I don't know VA_Jill Feb 2021 #7

msongs

(67,395 posts)
1. would be easier for dems of every type to flood WY, SD, ND, ID, MT - needs far fewer ppl to move
Wed Feb 3, 2021, 05:20 PM
Feb 2021

and their ethnicity is irrelevant

misanthrope

(7,411 posts)
2. Yep
Wed Feb 3, 2021, 05:23 PM
Feb 2021

They would have to have the wherewithal to make a living there, though. That might require changing the economy in some fashion.

misanthrope

(7,411 posts)
5. Undoubtedly, it is gorgeous.
Wed Feb 3, 2021, 05:35 PM
Feb 2021

Most of the American West is the same. But if you check out land ownership, predominant industries and population centers, you see that there would be challenges to transplanting folks from the urban areas where most Democrats live.

2naSalit

(86,536 posts)
3. Better create some jobs for them in those states...
Wed Feb 3, 2021, 05:26 PM
Feb 2021

because the Rs in them are rushing full scream ahead to turn these states into trumptopian heavens.

BluesRunTheGame

(1,614 posts)
6. Real estate prices in the more desirable parts of those states are going through the roof.
Wed Feb 3, 2021, 05:51 PM
Feb 2021

Wages are pathetic.

I recently moved from western Montana back to the Midwest.

meadowlander

(4,394 posts)
8. Yes, climate change will make living in the South unbearable in our lifetimes.
Wed Feb 3, 2021, 06:16 PM
Feb 2021

Flood Ohio, Iowa, Montana other mid-Western swing states that would be easier to flip and won't exacerbate inter-generational poverty by encouraging people to buy real estate that is becoming increasingly worthless.

We need a program to relocate Californians to mid-Western states that have good access to water.

misanthrope

(7,411 posts)
9. Hurricane season already lasts half the year.
Thu Feb 4, 2021, 03:43 AM
Feb 2021

There are tornadoes in winter and spring, powerful heat waves. Also, the region's hot and humid environment facilitates contagion. Go back about a century and look at the outbreaks of yellow fever and other mosquito-borne illnesses.

 

Klaralven

(7,510 posts)
10. I thought that Californians were moving to WY, ID and MT at a pretty good rate already.
Thu Feb 4, 2021, 08:08 AM
Feb 2021

Although not Black Californians.

Besides, California is only 5.8% Black, compared with the US as a whole at 12.7%.

VA_Jill

(9,965 posts)
7. I don't know
Wed Feb 3, 2021, 06:12 PM
Feb 2021

a whole lot of REASONABLE white folks who want to live in most of those states...outside of a few metro areas, that is.

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