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CNN: 84 THOUSAND more deaths in the next 24 days. (Original Post) sheshe2 Feb 2021 OP
How can this be? madaboutharry Feb 2021 #1
The new cases per day have been dropping pretty fast. Mariana Feb 2021 #2
Welp. sheshe2 Feb 2021 #4
Yes, that's true. Sigh. nt. Mariana Feb 2021 #5
Our new daily cases peaked early last month and daily deaths seem to have peaked now as well. BGBD Feb 2021 #3
I am sorry, but I disagree. sheshe2 Feb 2021 #7
The vaccines BGBD Feb 2021 #11
Welp sheshe2 Feb 2021 #14
Seasonality BGBD Feb 2021 #19
We have reached 1 million doses administered in MI. roamer65 Feb 2021 #20
Lots BGBD Feb 2021 #22
Yep I know how you feel. No reason or evidence for the following; just a sense... Volaris Feb 2021 #6
We will be over a half million dead. sheshe2 Feb 2021 #9
I know it. And if the CNN report is accurate numbers, 80k more by april 1st. Volaris Feb 2021 #16
Yes. sheshe2 Feb 2021 #17
F** Trump and his nationalist scumbags. Dawson Leery Feb 2021 #8
That's 1 9/11 each day Renew Deal Feb 2021 #10
We've been averaging around 3400 dead a day for the last few weeks now Best_man23 Feb 2021 #12
Yes. sheshe2 Feb 2021 #15
The previous crew took the last 10 months off to campaign instead RANDYWILDMAN Feb 2021 #13
Sigh... I just want it to stop. Initech Feb 2021 #18
I hate that stupid COVID-19 label. roamer65 Feb 2021 #21

Mariana

(14,854 posts)
2. The new cases per day have been dropping pretty fast.
Wed Feb 3, 2021, 09:12 PM
Feb 2021

The deaths per day are starting to follow. I guess the spike from the holidays is ending, so maybe it won't be as bad as they predict.

sheshe2

(83,746 posts)
4. Welp.
Wed Feb 3, 2021, 09:20 PM
Feb 2021

The fugging Super Bowl is coming up. They will be partying as if there is no tomorrow. Fauci actually begged people today NOT TO ATTEND THOSE PARTIES! You and I both know they will.

 

BGBD

(3,282 posts)
3. Our new daily cases peaked early last month and daily deaths seem to have peaked now as well.
Wed Feb 3, 2021, 09:18 PM
Feb 2021
https://covid19.healthdata.org/united-states-of-america?view=mask-use&tab=trend

With the vaccine becoming more common and the winter winding down, we will be in a much better place by this spring.


For the good news...Social distancing, masks, school closings, and better hygiene awareness have led to the lightest flu season in CDC surveillance records by a lot.

We'd be smart to maintain mask use during flu season forever and even consider shortening summer break a little and taking January off of school to stop spread of flu each year. It would save a lot of lives and a few billion bucks annually.

sheshe2

(83,746 posts)
7. I am sorry, but I disagree.
Wed Feb 3, 2021, 10:41 PM
Feb 2021

Winters end won't stop it or slow it down.

'Mixed messages from Day One': Rising cases prove summer is no barrier to COVID-19

Any hopes that summer’s high temperatures might slow the spread of the coronavirus were smashed in June and July by skyrocketing cases across the country, especially in some of the warmest states.

Colin Carlson wasn’t a bit surprised that summer heat failed to curb the virus that causes COVID-19, which has claimed more than 138,000 lives in the U.S. That notion, no matter how many times it was repeated, was never supported by science, said Carlson, an assistant research professor at Georgetown University who studies the relationship between climate change and infectious disease
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/health/2020/07/17/spiking-covid-19-cases-show-s.ummers-heat-doesnt-stop-coronavirus/5447462002/



As for vaccines? We don't have near enough. The vaccine rate is not near enough to keep ahead of the new variants...per Fauci and science. Biden came into a huge mess, no distribution plan and fewer vaccines than promised. Hundreds of thousands that were said to be on hand can't be accounted for. You and I both know that trump sold them off to the highest bidders.
 

BGBD

(3,282 posts)
11. The vaccines
Wed Feb 3, 2021, 11:41 PM
Feb 2021

still prevent severe illness even in the new variants. And the rate of vaccination is increasing daily.

Also, yes, summer did show much lower rate of new cases. The "summer surge" was much lower than either the initial wave or the one we are in now. People being able to be outside instead of stuck inside will lead to less infections, as it did over the past summer. The reason the massive protests over the summer didn't lead to a catastrophe was because being outdoors is much safer than indoors.

But feel however you want about it.

sheshe2

(83,746 posts)
14. Welp
Thu Feb 4, 2021, 12:27 AM
Feb 2021

When a disease like COVID-19 is spreading, people have a tendency to "want to grasp at whatever thing they can see that might be a cure, or a reason it’s safe," said Sadie Jane Ryan, an associate professor of medical geography at the University of Florida.

Marshall Shepherd, director of the atmospheric science program at the University of Georgia, calls it "wishcasting."

“People ‘wishcast’ scenarios in our minds, but they don’tjibe with what the science or the data is actually bearing out,” Shepherd said. “The science has been very clear, we don’t understand the relationship between heat and COVID.”

It should have been obvious in the beginning, he said, when the virus began taking off in some Southeasternstates even as they experienced record-breaking heat.

Then, during the first week of July, nine of the 10 states with the biggest increases in cases were in the Sunbelt, including Florida, Texas and Arizona, according to case information from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. Of those states, Florida had the warmest temperature in June, with an average of 81 degrees, followed by Texas with an average of 80.6 degrees.

After studying the potential impacts of climate on the spread of COVID-19 earlier in the year, Rachel Baker, a post-doctoral researcher at Princeton University, and a team of colleagues concluded at some point in the future the virus could become seasonal like the flu. However, the paper they published made it clear that in this early stage, a lack of immunity among the population would be the fundamental driver.

The virus “just spreads really well whether you’re inside or outside,” Baker said.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/health/2020/07/17/spiking-covid-19-cases-show-summers-heat-doesnt-stop-coronavirus/5447462002/

Actually they don't know that.

BGBD

11. The vaccines
still prevent severe illness even in the new variants. And the rate of vaccination is increasing daily.


You don't know that, even the CDC does not know.

What we do not know
Scientists are working to learn more about these variants, and more studies are needed to understand:

How widely these new variants have spread
How the disease caused by these new variants differs from the disease caused by other variants that are currently circulating
How these variants may affect existing therapies, vaccines, and tests


https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/transmission/variant.html

Fact is we don't have a clue how long the vaccine will last towards immunity.

Fact is there is nowhere near the number of doses available. My mom is 94 and has not gotten one. She lives here with my sister and I. We are her caretakers and none of us are in line to get one at this time.

But feel however you want about it.




roamer65

(36,745 posts)
20. We have reached 1 million doses administered in MI.
Fri Feb 5, 2021, 01:26 AM
Feb 2021

That’s about 10 pct of our population.

I do expect a third wave in October when they try to reopen in person schooling. Remember...the kids can’t have the vaccine yet.

 

BGBD

(3,282 posts)
22. Lots
Fri Feb 5, 2021, 08:57 AM
Feb 2021

Of places are already back to in-person.

I'll be surprised if any schools wait until September to open back up.

Volaris

(10,270 posts)
6. Yep I know how you feel. No reason or evidence for the following; just a sense...
Wed Feb 3, 2021, 10:07 PM
Feb 2021

That even doing this RIGHT (finally and to the best of our ability), now means that we will be at a quarter million or more dead by July 4th (and I'd bet I'd be on the higher end of that range).

So fucking unnecessary.

Volaris

(10,270 posts)
16. I know it. And if the CNN report is accurate numbers, 80k more by april 1st.
Thu Feb 4, 2021, 01:18 AM
Feb 2021

Is what makes me fear close to a million before summers end

Best_man23

(4,897 posts)
12. We've been averaging around 3400 dead a day for the last few weeks now
Thu Feb 4, 2021, 12:13 AM
Feb 2021

If you take 3400 times 24, you get close to the 84K number.

RANDYWILDMAN

(2,668 posts)
13. The previous crew took the last 10 months off to campaign instead
Thu Feb 4, 2021, 12:23 AM
Feb 2021

They could not bother, they all had it and lived with some of the best healthcare money can buy.

roamer65

(36,745 posts)
21. I hate that stupid COVID-19 label.
Fri Feb 5, 2021, 01:28 AM
Feb 2021

This fucker is a SARS virus.

SARS-CoV-2 and just call the syndrome SARS.

When u get vaccinated, you’re being vaccinated against a SARS virus.

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