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CNN: Those who disregarded the metal detectors entering the House floor (Original Post) mobeau69 Feb 2021 OP
Maybe they thought it said Mental Detector underpants Feb 2021 #1
We have a winner! MontanaMama Feb 2021 #6
..or Mental Defector? whathehell Feb 2021 #12
..or Mental Defector Detector? amb123 Feb 2021 #60
Bravo! whathehell Feb 2021 #63
DUzy! RGinNJ Feb 2021 #41
But they are Mental Insurrectors. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Feb 2021 #45
Probably afraid of hearing that flatlining sound. cstanleytech Feb 2021 #48
+100 nt reACTIONary Feb 2021 #49
Love it! sheshe2 Feb 2021 #2
Donate it to the kids in cages lame54 Feb 2021 #3
hopefuly we can find those kids and let them go. AllaN01Bear Feb 2021 #35
With cash in hand lame54 Feb 2021 #62
I hope all the money they get from this fine gets donated to everytown.org Vivienne235729 Feb 2021 #4
And it comes out of their paycheck as well! nt avebury Feb 2021 #5
Yep, a direct deduction DeminPennswoods Feb 2021 #27
Even BETTER! calimary Feb 2021 #51
Excellent!!! calimary Feb 2021 #50
Play stupid games. Win expensive prizes! SoonerPride Feb 2021 #7
I bet they won't pay. Does the rule have any teeth? Nitram Feb 2021 #8
The fine is deducted from their paychecks. They can't stop it. stopbush Feb 2021 #15
That's great to hear! Nitram Feb 2021 #33
I believe they can prevent it being deducted from their paycheck by paying it up front soldierant Feb 2021 #64
$5,000 is a drop in the bucket to these people. Rick Rolle Feb 2021 #71
Not if it's every day. But they are taking it to Court. theneworiginal Feb 2021 #75
Financially easily dismissed. I think the symbolism is powerful. They are being branded scofflaws. Nitram Feb 2021 #78
It's deducted from their pay wryter2000 Feb 2021 #52
Wonder how many bypassed the detector? KewlKat Feb 2021 #9
I'm curious how they can compel payment? Can it get deducted right out of his paycheck? tritsofme Feb 2021 #10
Taken from wages. They wont get the chance to not pay Fullduplexxx Feb 2021 #14
They said it's an automatic Turin_C3PO Feb 2021 #19
Taken from wages. Hope it's for each incidence OhNo-Really Feb 2021 #11
I believe it was $5,000 for the first incident, $10,000 for every incident thereafter rurallib Feb 2021 #28
It Is. GB_RN Feb 2021 #29
Hell, Chip Roy has all but admitted OldBaldy1701E Feb 2021 #42
I'd like to see that fuckhead try to use that excuse at an airport and get caught... Prof. Toru Tanaka Feb 2021 #66
and to think that district could have sent Wendy Davis to Congress yellowdogintexas Feb 2021 #69
Too bad that that's a pittance for most of them... Silent3 Feb 2021 #13
With a yearly salary of $174,000, each Rep is earning $3,350 a week. stopbush Feb 2021 #18
Yes, but most Congress critters don't live off their public salary Silent3 Feb 2021 #22
This is true. But! Grokenstein Feb 2021 #40
That may be true for many Senators, not so much for most Members StarfishSaver Feb 2021 #55
The new ones do. But I suspect the Qbots will get people to AllyCat Feb 2021 #56
I'm with you padah513 Feb 2021 #65
They figure they can fund raise on the fine and make more than $5,000. Irish_Dem Feb 2021 #21
Wouldn't that go to their campaign? wryter2000 Feb 2021 #53
Most of them seem to come out of congress wealthier than when they went in. Irish_Dem Feb 2021 #58
Nice idea, but I don't like it. They should be BANNED from entering, not just fined. FailureToCommunicate Feb 2021 #16
I agree. They should just be prevented from entering the floor of the House. Lonestarblue Feb 2021 #26
Agree. First, the entrance should be wnylib Feb 2021 #31
Shouldn't they first be grabbed around the neck and have their faces driven into the floor? 11 Bravo Feb 2021 #17
My thoughts exactly. If it's against the law or rules then hold them accountable. flying_wahini Feb 2021 #20
That whole melanin thing seems to get in the way. 11 Bravo Feb 2021 #24
Handcuff them Mr.Bill Feb 2021 #32
They are like naughty children of the well to do. MuseRider Feb 2021 #23
I believed I heard the fines can't be paid out of their office funds, Fla Dem Feb 2021 #25
Yup. GB_RN Feb 2021 #30
Knowing the NRA and the RNC, they will probably get reimbursed JDC Feb 2021 #34
good . AllaN01Bear Feb 2021 #36
I sure hope this includes my rep - Andy Harris Bmoboy Feb 2021 #37
Given the likes of MTG and other secessionists, they can't be trusted. n/t slumcamper Feb 2021 #38
So the people who represent the party of "law and order"... mwooldri Feb 2021 #39
Nice! iluvtennis Feb 2021 #43
How many have done it since the rules were put in place? nt Gore1FL Feb 2021 #44
I'm guessing they expect to need to shoot their way out of a floor debate. Tough Crowd on the floor? Ford_Prefect Feb 2021 #46
Who are they going to shoot? The police? The Congress? BarbD Feb 2021 #47
I'd like to see their fines DOUBLED for each repeat offense - Talitha Feb 2021 #54
My thought also, that will stop them pretty quick. n/t tinymontgomery Feb 2021 #57
If you can't have a workplace free of angry people with guns, what is it all coming to??? bucolic_frolic Feb 2021 #59
I want their names posted FakeNoose Feb 2021 #61
Here are 2 names, reported tonight MyMission Feb 2021 #68
Gomer's metal lobotomy plate would've set it off Blue Owl Feb 2021 #70
Actually, Gohmert may win his appeal to have his fine rescinded SCantiGOP Feb 2021 #77
I am SO glad that this policy and Nancy Pelosi both have teeth. BobTheSubgenius Feb 2021 #67
If they were ever able to install bullshit detectors DFW Feb 2021 #72
Just so everyone is safe . . . Aussie105 Feb 2021 #73
The idiots who would enter our sacred hall armed do not understand the real threat randr Feb 2021 #74
I heard they have 90 days to pay or it's taken from their pay check -- that's not a real deterrent, lettucebe Feb 2021 #76

soldierant

(6,857 posts)
64. I believe they can prevent it being deducted from their paycheck by paying it up front
Fri Feb 5, 2021, 09:57 PM
Feb 2021

but i don't believe that's going to happen with these scofflaws, so it's moot.

Incidentally, second and subsequent offenses are $10,000.00 each.

 

Rick Rolle

(90 posts)
71. $5,000 is a drop in the bucket to these people.
Sat Feb 6, 2021, 02:47 AM
Feb 2021

They'll quickly make that up in "donations" from lobbyists and supporters. Don't be surprised to see some sort of GoFundMe page, or donations from a PAC. These politicians will wear it as a badge of honor that they defied the Speaker of the House.

theneworiginal

(302 posts)
75. Not if it's every day. But they are taking it to Court.
Sat Feb 6, 2021, 11:46 AM
Feb 2021

They will lose. Congress sets the rules for the Capital just like a management company can set rules for its own building for its tenants. Nancy passed the rule within the rules.

Suck it, assholes. Your ammo-sexual tendencies are keeping you from doing something/anything productive.

Nitram

(22,794 posts)
78. Financially easily dismissed. I think the symbolism is powerful. They are being branded scofflaws.
Sat Feb 6, 2021, 06:22 PM
Feb 2021

Yeah, I know, some of them and their base will wear it as a badge of honor. But their action and punishment are both ion permanent record, permanently. History will not view them kindly.

tritsofme

(17,377 posts)
10. I'm curious how they can compel payment? Can it get deducted right out of his paycheck?
Fri Feb 5, 2021, 05:47 PM
Feb 2021

Are they barred from the floor until the fine is paid?

rurallib

(62,411 posts)
28. I believe it was $5,000 for the first incident, $10,000 for every incident thereafter
Fri Feb 5, 2021, 06:06 PM
Feb 2021

to be deducted from the paycheck.

They are going to get good at padding the expense account.

GB_RN

(2,350 posts)
29. It Is.
Fri Feb 5, 2021, 06:06 PM
Feb 2021

And the fine increases to $10k for the second offense. Lauren “Bang Bang Barbie” Boebert (R-Gun Nuts R' Us) is for sure one of them. I THINK Chip Roy (R-NRA) is also one of them. I wouldn’t be surprised if Marjorie Taylor Gangrene (Q-Ball) was also involved.

OldBaldy1701E

(5,126 posts)
42. Hell, Chip Roy has all but admitted
Fri Feb 5, 2021, 07:01 PM
Feb 2021

to carrying a gun into the chambers. He is quoted as saying that he feels the detectors are infringing on his 2nd amendment rights to defend himself. Which means he feels he has to defend himself and has taken steps to do so. Scary.

Prof. Toru Tanaka

(1,956 posts)
66. I'd like to see that fuckhead try to use that excuse at an airport and get caught...
Fri Feb 5, 2021, 11:33 PM
Feb 2021

but I doubt he flies on commercial aircraft.

Silent3

(15,210 posts)
13. Too bad that that's a pittance for most of them...
Fri Feb 5, 2021, 05:48 PM
Feb 2021

...and they can probably raise way more money in extra donations by performing for the deplorables like this.

stopbush

(24,396 posts)
18. With a yearly salary of $174,000, each Rep is earning $3,350 a week.
Fri Feb 5, 2021, 05:52 PM
Feb 2021

After taxes, the fine is basically two-weeks salary.

Silent3

(15,210 posts)
22. Yes, but most Congress critters don't live off their public salary
Fri Feb 5, 2021, 05:57 PM
Feb 2021

Many are independently wealthy (or not so independently, as in they are corruptly scamming the system).

Grokenstein

(5,722 posts)
40. This is true. But!
Fri Feb 5, 2021, 06:50 PM
Feb 2021

A rich man will bawl louder over a missing nickel than a poor person will weep over a stolen twenty.

 

StarfishSaver

(18,486 posts)
55. That may be true for many Senators, not so much for most Members
Fri Feb 5, 2021, 07:56 PM
Feb 2021

For most of them, this is probably the most income they've ever made. They weren't exactly high value employees in the private sector before they were elected to Congress.

AllyCat

(16,186 posts)
56. The new ones do. But I suspect the Qbots will get people to
Fri Feb 5, 2021, 07:59 PM
Feb 2021

Donate to bail them out. Time to have the Capitol police just arrest them.

padah513

(2,502 posts)
65. I'm with you
Fri Feb 5, 2021, 10:14 PM
Feb 2021

If they try to walk around assume they have a gun and manhandle the hell out of them before the arrest. After tasting the carpet once or twice with a knee to the back and a gun pointed at the back of their head they'll get the idea.

Irish_Dem

(47,028 posts)
21. They figure they can fund raise on the fine and make more than $5,000.
Fri Feb 5, 2021, 05:55 PM
Feb 2021

What a warped world we live in.

wryter2000

(46,039 posts)
53. Wouldn't that go to their campaign?
Fri Feb 5, 2021, 07:49 PM
Feb 2021

Not that they're above using campaign money for personal uses, even though it's illegal.

Irish_Dem

(47,028 posts)
58. Most of them seem to come out of congress wealthier than when they went in.
Fri Feb 5, 2021, 08:11 PM
Feb 2021

Seems to be a way they funnel money to themselves.

FailureToCommunicate

(14,014 posts)
16. Nice idea, but I don't like it. They should be BANNED from entering, not just fined.
Fri Feb 5, 2021, 05:51 PM
Feb 2021

I could imagine several of them paying the fine - and using it as a fundraising gimmick to KEEP paying it - and just rubbing their distain in the faces of their colleagues, to "own the Libs"

Lonestarblue

(9,986 posts)
26. I agree. They should just be prevented from entering the floor of the House.
Fri Feb 5, 2021, 06:02 PM
Feb 2021

Why should Democratic members of Congress, especially Pelosi and the Squad, have to work beside people who have said they want them dead, knowing those same people are carrying guns and could actually kill them. Not that I think they would, but it’s a form of intimidation that should not be allowed.

wnylib

(21,447 posts)
31. Agree. First, the entrance should be
Fri Feb 5, 2021, 06:09 PM
Feb 2021

set up to make bypassing the detector impossible. Then, anybody who does have a weapon detected, should be denied entry until they remove the weapon from their person, whether it't in a pcket, purse, briefcase, etc. and leave it behind. They can pick it up only on the way out.

They have already demonstrated that they can't be trusted, due to their support for violence.

11 Bravo

(23,926 posts)
17. Shouldn't they first be grabbed around the neck and have their faces driven into the floor?
Fri Feb 5, 2021, 05:51 PM
Feb 2021

Because I'm fairly certain I've seen that happen to other citizens suspected of lesser offenses.

11 Bravo

(23,926 posts)
24. That whole melanin thing seems to get in the way.
Fri Feb 5, 2021, 06:00 PM
Feb 2021

Every. Fucking. Time.

If Johnny "Apple Cheeks" Roberts had not stated, in the decision that eviscerated the Voting Rights Act, that racism was no longer a thing, I would probably as concerned as Susan Collins on a bad day.

MuseRider

(34,108 posts)
23. They are like naughty children of the well to do.
Fri Feb 5, 2021, 05:57 PM
Feb 2021

Not meeeeee. Way to go Nancy, treat them like you would a 3 year old with his hand in the center of a cake you just decorated. They know better but they just think they are special and, "What are you going to do about it, huh?" Now they know, fine them for not wearing masks or even not wearing them appropriately. A civil society does not regard your silly "not meeeeees" as important when you risk the others around you. Make them pay and behave like real grown ups. Such special people they are.

Fla Dem

(23,657 posts)
25. I believed I heard the fines can't be paid out of their office funds,
Fri Feb 5, 2021, 06:02 PM
Feb 2021

but will be deducted from their pay.

JDC

(10,127 posts)
34. Knowing the NRA and the RNC, they will probably get reimbursed
Fri Feb 5, 2021, 06:32 PM
Feb 2021

They love making a statement about what a-holes they are in the name of freedumb.

Bmoboy

(267 posts)
37. I sure hope this includes my rep - Andy Harris
Fri Feb 5, 2021, 06:36 PM
Feb 2021

An anesthesiologist with a concealed carry permit is a scary thing.

Fuck him.

mwooldri

(10,303 posts)
39. So the people who represent the party of "law and order"...
Fri Feb 5, 2021, 06:47 PM
Feb 2021

... have now found out that "law and order" does apply to them too. Good.

BarbD

(1,192 posts)
47. Who are they going to shoot? The police? The Congress?
Fri Feb 5, 2021, 07:32 PM
Feb 2021

They feel unsafe. Who are they afraid of?

What idiots.

MyMission

(1,850 posts)
68. Here are 2 names, reported tonight
Sat Feb 6, 2021, 12:14 AM
Feb 2021

Republican congressmen Louie Gohmert and Andrew Clyde fined $5,000 each for refusing to go through a new metal detector in the Capitol
Eliza Relman Feb 5, 2021, 6:04 PM

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.businessinsider.com/2-gop-congressmen-fined-5000-for-bypassing-house-metal-detector-2021-2%3famp

Gohmert was and will be a regular offender to the rule. Others will abide, until the day they stage a protest and carry in their firearms, whoever's got one. If and when that happens, all the Dems should walk out, which would remove a quorum so no votes could take place.

The GQP rep for my district carries, and I hope they are able to screen him adequately as he uses a wheelchair, which could be used to mask a firearm. I've been worried about him sneaking in a weapon that way; and also concerned as the Dem reps are, that so many support tRump, guns, violence and intimidation.

SCantiGOP

(13,869 posts)
77. Actually, Gohmert may win his appeal to have his fine rescinded
Sat Feb 6, 2021, 04:16 PM
Feb 2021

If he is telling the truth - and that is a big IF - he says that he complied with the procedure and went through the detector. later, before he was scheduled to speak, he left the chamber to go to the bathroom. He says he wasn't asked to come back through the detector, but returned to the floor.

DFW

(54,370 posts)
72. If they were ever able to install bullshit detectors
Sat Feb 6, 2021, 03:28 AM
Feb 2021

The entire Republican caucus would be working for free inside of a month.

Aussie105

(5,395 posts)
73. Just so everyone is safe . . .
Sat Feb 6, 2021, 05:51 AM
Feb 2021

can those miscreants who do manage to enter with weapons, be placed in bullet proof cages for the duration of their stay in the chamber? Hell, make it soundproof too! Adult version of the child's 'naughty corner'!

Bullet proof, no, not to keep bullets out, but to keep any 'accidental' discharge in. Should make a lot of noise, in an enclosed space!

randr

(12,412 posts)
74. The idiots who would enter our sacred hall armed do not understand the real threat
Sat Feb 6, 2021, 10:46 AM
Feb 2021

They risk the possibility for someone to over power them, take their weapon, and use it on innocent people.
Especially little miss Annie Oakley!

lettucebe

(2,336 posts)
76. I heard they have 90 days to pay or it's taken from their pay check -- that's not a real deterrent,
Sat Feb 6, 2021, 02:20 PM
Feb 2021

especially for someone wealthy. I prefer the immediate removal from pay and then an escalating scale, every time, fines double. So do it once, $5k, twice $10k, three times $20, etc. Maybe that'd help?

It sickens me the way they act so juvenile. How are young people supposed to learn how to act when our elected officials are like 2nd graders, and not well behaved 2nd graders either. (I love that age, it's the best).

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