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triron

(21,984 posts)
Fri Feb 5, 2021, 11:36 PM Feb 2021

Rachel went way overboard in her careless criticisms of amniotic tissue injections.

Normally I am very much with Rachel with her presentations, but her apparent slandering
of amniotic tissue injections was ignorant and careless. They have many beneficial uses in orthopedics and tissue healing.
She was correct on some things; for instance, amniotic tissue injections do not contain viable stem cells.

I will cite below numerous studies on this medical intervention from pubmed:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7174465/

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6307525/

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/30651759/

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/31779034/

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/25945496/

I could go on but I think this makes my point.

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Rachel went way overboard in her careless criticisms of amniotic tissue injections. (Original Post) triron Feb 2021 OP
Perhaps I wasn't paying close enough attention, but I think she didn't criticize that. servermsh Feb 2021 #1
That's what I got - scamming with unknown liquid as cure. electric_blue68 Feb 2021 #3
That was my understanding also. blueinredohio Feb 2021 #6
You got it right, servermsh. ShazzieB Feb 2021 #9
I heard "amniotic fluid" and "contained no stem cells" ... Hekate Feb 2021 #27
I can't watch her, she goes way overboard always. Sorry. dem4decades Feb 2021 #2
Her ratings are amazing so it must be your issue. Nt USALiberal Feb 2021 #8
Whoops, sorry, meant to reply to poster above. Hoyt Feb 2021 #10
I love Rachel. ❤ ShazzieB Feb 2021 #12
She's one of my faves... electric_blue68 Feb 2021 #14
THIS n/t malaise Feb 2021 #23
Watched her religiously during bush years. But nowadays everything's a blockbuster, Hoyt Feb 2021 #11
Thank you. You've expressed my feelings better than I did. dem4decades Feb 2021 #13
Let me also associate myself with your thoughts. COLGATE4 Feb 2021 #17
I feel the same Raine Feb 2021 #20
In a shallow world, she offers depth. Happy Hoosier Feb 2021 #24
she also said "everybody" will be watching the stupor bowl sunday. oh well nt msongs Feb 2021 #4
I have never watched a football game & probably never will. tblue37 Feb 2021 #5
The first two were animal studies. Phoenix61 Feb 2021 #7
She was talking about the woman who touted her cure for covid . She was selling Srkdqltr Feb 2021 #15
No elleng Feb 2021 #16
Did you even watch her show? jcgoldie Feb 2021 #18
Are you talking about the Covid Cure Scam by a Republican Woman ? JI7 Feb 2021 #19
I stayed up for the re-run in case I had missed something - I had not. TomSlick Feb 2021 #21
Yes. This is how I heard it. nt Hekate Feb 2021 #28
You are completely and utterly wrong. I've just watched her show OnDoutside Feb 2021 #22
There is one thing you can say about Rachel... Evergreen Emerald Feb 2021 #25
Sorry, no. PirateRo Feb 2021 #26
RM was making the point that this Republican rep is a snake oil salesman. Ilsa Feb 2021 #29

servermsh

(913 posts)
1. Perhaps I wasn't paying close enough attention, but I think she didn't criticize that.
Fri Feb 5, 2021, 11:39 PM
Feb 2021

My impression was she was only criticizing that scammer, who was injecting unknown liquids into people.

ShazzieB

(16,265 posts)
9. You got it right, servermsh.
Sat Feb 6, 2021, 12:14 AM
Feb 2021

She never said what the scammer was injecting, and she definitely did NOT utter the words "amniotic" or " tissue."

Hekate

(90,538 posts)
27. I heard "amniotic fluid" and "contained no stem cells" ...
Sat Feb 6, 2021, 10:24 AM
Feb 2021

Which is not a condemnation of amniotic fluid per se, but of the claim by the quack that it contained something it did not and was a cure-all.

ShazzieB

(16,265 posts)
12. I love Rachel. ❤
Sat Feb 6, 2021, 12:23 AM
Feb 2021

I get that not everybody does, but I think she's amazing. She is literally my most favoritest thing on TV, and I have learned SO much from her. I love how smart she is, and I love her passion, because it shows how deeply she cares.

electric_blue68

(14,810 posts)
14. She's one of my faves...
Sat Feb 6, 2021, 12:34 AM
Feb 2021

Smart, compassionate, and funny! ❤️

And btw - she's an amateur mixologist! She used to
talk about it at times on (rip) Air America Radio. 😁

 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
11. Watched her religiously during bush years. But nowadays everything's a blockbuster,
Sat Feb 6, 2021, 12:23 AM
Feb 2021

that’s often a bust, or she’s taking forever to connect dots that just don’t matter.

I seldom watch her now, but get why others do.

Happy Hoosier

(7,210 posts)
24. In a shallow world, she offers depth.
Sat Feb 6, 2021, 08:20 AM
Feb 2021

I appreciate that she offers background and context. It’s rare in our “instant gratification” world.

Phoenix61

(16,992 posts)
7. The first two were animal studies.
Sat Feb 6, 2021, 12:06 AM
Feb 2021

The human study used a membrane not fluid. The last one used stem cells derived from fluid. So, none of the studies you cited involved amniotic fluid in humans.

Srkdqltr

(6,224 posts)
15. She was talking about the woman who touted her cure for covid . She was selling
Sat Feb 6, 2021, 12:38 AM
Feb 2021

Supposed stem cell cure all. I don't know what you all heard but she didn't say anything about amnionic tissue anything. Her point was the whole thing was fake.

TomSlick

(11,086 posts)
21. I stayed up for the re-run in case I had missed something - I had not.
Sat Feb 6, 2021, 01:34 AM
Feb 2021

Rachel made no "ignorant and careless" "slandering of amniotic tissue injections." Rather, she noted that this now Missouri state representative and indicted felon had sold injections, she claimed to be amniotic fluid, claiming they contained stem cells as a cure for a laundry list of medical conditions including COPD, erectile dysfunction, urinary incontinence, and Covid-19. The injection did not contain stem cells and cured nothing. (There was no reference to whether this "assistant physician" was actually injecting amniotic fluid or, if so, how she collected it.)

Rachel is not everyone's cup of tea but she is neither ignorant nor careless.

Footnote: She was an "assistant physician" because she was a recent Caribbean medical school graduate who had been rejected for any residency program.

OnDoutside

(19,945 posts)
22. You are completely and utterly wrong. I've just watched her show
Sat Feb 6, 2021, 06:52 AM
Feb 2021

and you have completely mischaracterized what she said. You should remove this thread or edit the thread title and OP.

Ilsa

(61,690 posts)
29. RM was making the point that this Republican rep is a snake oil salesman.
Sat Feb 6, 2021, 10:53 AM
Feb 2021

She was cheating sick people of their savings for fake cures, especially for COVID-19. At least with a burglar or robber, we aren't being misdirected about matters as important as our health.

I think we all need to be reminded occasionally that there are thieves and sociopaths disquised as professionals.

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