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(94,438 posts)
Sat Feb 6, 2021, 11:15 AM Feb 2021

Where Rep. Hakeem Jeffries drags Utah's new Trump-supporting Black republican

Keith Boykin @keithboykin
This is Fire... Rep. Hakeem Jeffries (@RepJeffries) drags Utah’s new Trump-supporting Black Republican (@BurgessOwens) for coming in on his first day and lecturing Democrats about patriotism when Owens voted to overturn the November election even after the Capitol insurrection.

watch:




“I was hoping to engage with the new distinguished gentleman from Utah, as he sat here lecturing us about patriotism,” Jeffries began, “And I was just going to ask him how he voted after a violent mob attacked the Capitol to hunt down members of Congress, to hang Mike Pence, to assassinate Nancy Pelosi, to stop us from undertaking our constitutional responsibilities as part of the peaceful transfer of power, more than a hundred officers seriously injured, brain injuries, head trauma, one officer lost three fingers, another officer, because of an assault on him, is likely to be blind. Officer Sicknick died, blood was spilled, two other officers are no longer with us.”

“And you want to sit here and lecture us about patriotism? When you voted to object to an election that you know Joe Biden won, and perpetrated the big lie?” Jeffries said, then spoke about looking forward to working with Owens, as Democrats had worked with Trump, despite their disagreements.

“But the notion of you coming here lecturing us on your first day before this committee, it’s not about words it’s about actions?” Jeffries said. “You know what? Explain your actions on January 7th. When you supported an insurrection.”

"...I would just simply say, and the impeachment manager’s going to do a great job, but a violent insurrection resulted in the spilling of American blood. People died. The Capitol was desecrated. Urine and feces was left behind. The Confederate flag was bandied about. That didn’t even happen in this Capitol during the Civil War. The Trump flag was placed in the stead of the American flag. That’s an insurrection, that’s sedition, that’s undemocratic, that’s problematic, and the American thing to do is to stand up to it...”

read: https://www.mediaite.com/news/watch-hakeem-jeffries-blasts-burgess-owens-to-his-face-during-committee-meeting-for-voting-to-overturn-election-for-trump/
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Where Rep. Hakeem Jeffries drags Utah's new Trump-supporting Black republican (Original Post) bigtree Feb 2021 OP
.."and you don't want any of this either" lol Etherealoc1 Feb 2021 #1
Loved that! Hassin Bin Sober Feb 2021 #20
That was my favorite line! SallyHemmings Feb 2021 #21
Really well done. LakeArenal Feb 2021 #2
Is he related to Candace Owens? NewDayOranges Feb 2021 #3
Being distrustful of any republicans is good policy. Lucky Luciano Feb 2021 #6
I don't know... appmanga Feb 2021 #10
Tell it Mr. Jeffries! panader0 Feb 2021 #4
Is he aware SCantiGOP Feb 2021 #5
Agree but it was actually Jimmy Carter mountain grammy Feb 2021 #8
I think you're right SCantiGOP Feb 2021 #11
Yes, FormerOstrich Feb 2021 #9
Until 1978 African-Americans could not hold the priesthood in the LDS church. StevieM Feb 2021 #30
I think he's a baptist. dhol82 Feb 2021 #31
Great job. Now I have to go find the entire video of Jeffries. George II Feb 2021 #7
This is encouraging: an articulate, truthful Oldem Feb 2021 #12
Bravo Rep. Hakeem Jeffries! iluvtennis Feb 2021 #13
I am so glad seta1950 Feb 2021 #14
K & R & Retweeted! SunSeeker Feb 2021 #15
It is time to call traitors out ffr Feb 2021 #16
"And you really don't want any of this, either ..." StarfishSaver Feb 2021 #17
And he did it in a way that didn't make listeners cringe tavernier Feb 2021 #18
I think he's going to be the next Speaker ... StarfishSaver Feb 2021 #19
When you approve acts of treason you are a traitor. Treat them all as traitors inclding drumphf BSdetect Feb 2021 #22
Burgess Owens' donors. He's a Q dupe, too. ancianita Feb 2021 #23
Corporations should not be funding campaigns. Hermit-The-Prog Feb 2021 #26
Right? Especially fossil fuel ones. Then again, Cruz is Big Fossil's main recipient in TX, ancianita Feb 2021 #27
I don't know if he is interested in becoming THE Speaker DFW Feb 2021 #24
Rt.. TY Rep Hakeem Jeffries!!!!!! Cha Feb 2021 #25
"You know what? Explain your actions on January 7th. When you supported an insurrection." turbinetree Feb 2021 #28
Please, no more GOP-supporting black republicans Blue Owl Feb 2021 #29
Maybe Burgess Owens and JamesTHarris can get together and try to out-moron each other mdbl Feb 2021 #32
I hope that disgrace was more embarrassed than he ever knew someone could be embarrassed. BobTheSubgenius Feb 2021 #33
Tell us how you really feel, Rep. Jeffries -- don't hold back! Hekate Feb 2021 #34
I wish I could have seen the look on Owens' face when Jeffries was dressing him down. ShazzieB Feb 2021 #35

NewDayOranges

(751 posts)
3. Is he related to Candace Owens?
Sat Feb 6, 2021, 12:31 PM
Feb 2021

I'm African-American and I'm immediately distrustful of Black Republicans...

appmanga

(1,505 posts)
10. I don't know...
Sat Feb 6, 2021, 01:27 PM
Feb 2021

...if he's related to Auntie Ruckus, but he played pro football for the NY Jets. I think he might be a victim of CTE. Like you, I'm black and I can't see any reason why a black person would be a Republican. And it wouldn't matter if they were family; any Trump supporting black person is dead to me.

SCantiGOP

(14,735 posts)
5. Is he aware
Sat Feb 6, 2021, 01:11 PM
Feb 2021

That until the 1970s the official doctrine of the Mormon church inferred that blacks were a “cursed race.” The Nixon DOJ threatened their tax exempt status and they clarified the doctrine.
Really sounds like a church I would feel comfortable in.

SCantiGOP

(14,735 posts)
11. I think you're right
Sat Feb 6, 2021, 01:37 PM
Feb 2021

But it was during Nixon’s term when the issue came up, resulting in a “divine revelation” to change their policy.

FormerOstrich

(2,891 posts)
9. Yes,
Sat Feb 6, 2021, 01:27 PM
Feb 2021

Revelations by Supreme (Court). The Church sure doesn't like losing money. Or, apparently breaking even...they sold ZCMI, and all its long and rich Mormon History, in a heartbeat when it didn't turn a profit two years running. Revelation by Supreme (CPA)..bye bye to those stores.

StevieM

(10,578 posts)
30. Until 1978 African-Americans could not hold the priesthood in the LDS church.
Sat Feb 6, 2021, 08:33 PM
Feb 2021

In Mormonism, the priesthood does not simply refer to clergymen. All adult men are given the priesthood. And at 12 they are given an introductory version of it.

That means that black people were inherently inferior according to official church policy. That is what led the Carter administration to prepare to take away their tax exempt status. And it is why other colleges were refusing to play BYU in sports. Also, there was a temple being built in Brazil, which had a large black population, and where bloodlines were not so easily identified due to centuries of mixing between African, European, and Amerindian peoples.

Then came the revelation. Spencer W. Kimball ended the ban in 1978. At that point, according to Wikipedia, "missionaries no longer needed special permission to teach black people, converts were no longer asked about African heritage, and marks were no longer made on membership records indicating African heritage."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1978_Revelation_on_Priesthood#:~:text=The%201978%20Revelation%20on%20Priesthood,African%20descent%20from%20the%20priesthood.

dhol82

(9,651 posts)
31. I think he's a baptist.
Sat Feb 6, 2021, 10:13 PM
Feb 2021

At least that’s how he was raised.
Surprised he got elected in Utah.

Oldem

(833 posts)
12. This is encouraging: an articulate, truthful
Sat Feb 6, 2021, 01:38 PM
Feb 2021

condemnation of un-American hypocrisy. It probably won't change Owens' mind, but at least he now knows that he can't spew his pompous wrongheadedness with impunity. He'll think twice before he invites such a tongue-lashing again. And if he's fool enough to try it, we'll all have more delicious put-downs like this to savor. Bravo, Rep. Jeffries!

 

StarfishSaver

(18,486 posts)
17. "And you really don't want any of this, either ..."
Sat Feb 6, 2021, 01:56 PM
Feb 2021

Dayum. That stung ME and I wasn't even in the room.

tavernier

(14,465 posts)
18. And he did it in a way that didn't make listeners cringe
Sat Feb 6, 2021, 01:57 PM
Feb 2021

but rather appreciate his sincerity and realistic approach to the inane blather that we hear from that side... Cruz, Graham, McCarthy, etc.

BSdetect

(9,048 posts)
22. When you approve acts of treason you are a traitor. Treat them all as traitors inclding drumphf
Sat Feb 6, 2021, 02:22 PM
Feb 2021

ancianita

(43,313 posts)
23. Burgess Owens' donors. He's a Q dupe, too.
Sat Feb 6, 2021, 02:34 PM
Feb 2021

What they get for so far is his 'cancel culture' comeback to Jeffries.

Contributor ---- Total
House Freedom Fund (founded by Jim Jordan OH, Matt Salmon, AZ) $27,785
Saulsbury Industries (oil & gas) $15,170
Brighter Futures $15,000
Perry Homes $14,000
Bampac (Ben Carson, Alan Keyes donors) $12,800
Woodforest Financial Group $12,283
Thackeray Co $11,200
Prcp $11,200
Keller Investment Properties $11,200
Chicago Cubs (The Ricketts family) $11,200
Avatar Investments Lp $10,000
Black America's PAC $10,000
Landover $9,300
News Corp $8,400
Beaman Automotive Group $8,400
Air Products & Chemicals Inc $8,400
4Life Research $8,100
De Anza Invesco $8,000
Liberty West $7,100
James L Callan Inc (Australia) $7,000
https://www.opensecrets.org/races/contributors?cycle=2020&id=UT04&spec=N

“From six bankruptcies and unpaid taxes to misusing charitable funds and now campaign finance violations, Burgess Owens has displayed a pattern of financial mismanagement. It’s clear he has taken illegal donations that he cannot spend. He should come clean and refund all the money he is holding illegally.”

“Once again, Burgess Owens has shown why he is unfit to represent Utahns living in the fourth Congressional district. He still hasn’t adequately answered questions of alleged plagiarism or his relationship to Q-Anon. Now, we find out Owens has followed the example of his GOP predecessor, refusing to play by the rules and holding on to a substantial amount of illegal campaign contributions with only a week until the election.

“If voters can’t trust a candidate to honestly follow laws and regulations during their campaign, there is no reason to believe that voters can trust that person once in office.

https://kutv.com/news/local/burgess-owens-accepted-135000-in-illegal-campaign-donations-reports-the-new-york-times

ancianita

(43,313 posts)
27. Right? Especially fossil fuel ones. Then again, Cruz is Big Fossil's main recipient in TX,
Sat Feb 6, 2021, 07:32 PM
Feb 2021

and that seems a-okay.

DFW

(60,317 posts)
24. I don't know if he is interested in becoming THE Speaker
Sat Feb 6, 2021, 02:44 PM
Feb 2021

But he sure is one hell of A speaker!

mdbl

(8,719 posts)
32. Maybe Burgess Owens and JamesTHarris can get together and try to out-moron each other
Sat Feb 6, 2021, 10:36 PM
Feb 2021

Talk about idiots.

BobTheSubgenius

(12,236 posts)
33. I hope that disgrace was more embarrassed than he ever knew someone could be embarrassed.
Sun Feb 7, 2021, 12:02 AM
Feb 2021

Either that, or seething and furious. Elevating his BP to dangerous levels, even. So many of them seem to live in a constant state of near-apoplexy. Why not him?

ShazzieB

(22,716 posts)
35. I wish I could have seen the look on Owens' face when Jeffries was dressing him down.
Sun Feb 7, 2021, 05:35 AM
Feb 2021

It must have been something.

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