Hawley's wife files complaint against organizer of protest outside their home

[Nevilledog]

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https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/537583-hawleys-wife-files-complaint-against-organizer-of-protest-outside-couples-home

[flying_wahini]

1. Boo fuckin whoooo

What goes around, comes around,

[safeinOhio]

2. From the people that brought you Jan 6.

I don't think so.

[callous taoboy]

3. Well, at least they aren't going to storm the place.

[deminks]

4. Outside their 'Virginia' home.

Protestors would be hard pressed to find their home in Missouri, I am guessing.

[Thtwudbeme]

5. Jesus Christ! That guy found a woman willing to marry him?

I had no idea. He seems like a grandparent's basement dweller to me.

Oh well- I was wrong.

[A HERETIC I AM]

19. Don't forget, someone actually married Stephen Miller

So...even a fucking nazi can get hooked up.

[Rorey]

6. Trying to look at it objectively

I realize my opinion may be unpopular, but I think it would be better to not demonstrate in front of someone's private home. There's a local politician who lives on my street, and I know I'd be uncomfortable if people decided that they should demonstrate in front of his home because it would also affect me.

Hawley is despicable and I have no sympathy for him, but his children and neighbors shouldn't have to pay a price for his actions.

[zeusdogmom]

11. I concur

There are many, many ways to deal with people like Harley, but private residences should be off limits. Ditto restaurants, etc. when the person is out on his/her private time. It does not help “our side” but it certainly gives the opposition fuel for their rants.

[onetexan]

13. Ditto. I'm of the view personal spaces & personal time outside of public office-home, travel, dining

etc. are off limits to protesters and public officials are NOT to be accosted during those times. They may have family, friends or children with them. They should not be accosted in any form or manner - shouted at, confronted in a rude manner, cursed at, or assaulted. It should be considered criminal.

[StarfishSaver]

15. I agree

[maxsolomon]

16. I'm of 2 minds about this.

I understand your argument, but politicians like Hawley put themselves out of the reach of their constituents or other citizens, they ignore calls and letters, they avoid any media that will ask them to respond in detail or honestly.

Protesting at their homes is a tactic born of frustration, and one that the RW has adopted immediately; I have a friend who lives on Gov. Inslee's street and all weekend they get Pickup Truck Convoys flying "Fuck Inslee" flags and ranting over bullhorns.

[MagickMuffin]

7. Oh noes Cancel Culture, Censorship

SNOWFLAKES

[struggle4progress]

8. If they were peacefully protesting outside, of course, then

it's frightening and completely unacceptable

But if they set up a gallows and smashed windows and came inside looking for people to kill because they believed Hawley's election was illegitimate, then maybe it's just wild patriotic fun of the sort that even the GOP can support

[llashram]

9. this

[gulliver]

10. Home protests should be outlawed.

Thanks to the Internet, protests have become anti-democratic and mostly worse than useless. Even if 99% of Americans are for someone, the remaining 1% can still net organize a large "protest" and make that person's life miserable. It's bullying and harassment in the guise of free speech.

Hawley is scum, but the way to deal with him is to marginalize him and vote him out of office in 2024. Votes are what matter.

[maxsolomon]

17. It's a public street & the right to peaceably assemble is in the Constitution.

You have the right to be on a public street. It's not a deliberate trespass like in that march through the St. Louis private-street enclave with those 2 asshole attorneys brandishing firearms.

I don't believe such a law would be Constitutional.

And it is very unlikely he will be voted out of office. See: Ted Cruz 2018, Lindsey Graham, Mitch McConnell 2020. Red States will double down on their bad choices.

[gulliver]

18. It's not peaceful assembly if there are innocent people in the house (children, for example).

I don't think the Supreme Court should have a hard time balancing Constitutional rights (protesters vs innocent kids) in favor of outlawing home protests. It would be a rights-vs-rights situation as always. No Constitutional right is immune to the effects of other Constitutional rights.

I think the same is true for "peacefully" bearing arms at protests anywhere. It should simply be banned, and I think the Constitution should be fully happy with the concept. Lots of folks seem to have this incorrect idea that every right is limitless. But that's not the case at all. All the rights limit each other.

[maxsolomon]

21. A peaceful assembly doesn't become not-peaceful because children are near.

Protestors have no way to know if "innocents" might be exposed to their Constitutionally-protected speech on public property.

[gulliver]

22. If there's a legitimate threat, innocents are entitled to freedom from it.

Whether the perception of the threat is legitimate or not depends on the situation, of course. If there are children in a mall with their parents and there are union protesters picketing outside the mall, then there's no concern, even if the kids might be anxious (in my opinion). That's because the kids were brought there by their parents, and it's not their home.

Once you get someone's home in the picture, the balance of rights shifts dramatically. The whole notion of protesting at someone's home is just an "innovation" that wouldn't even exist if it weren't for the added confrontational effectiveness of the home setting and dragging someone's family and neighbors into the argument. I.e., as with the closely related norm breaking approach of Trumpism, home protests are opportunistic and cross the line. There's an odor of viciousness.

Again, I don't think the Supreme Court would have a hard time differentiating home protests from other types and balancing Constitutional rights appropriately.

And that's aside from the fact that a home protest of the dirtball Josh Hawley only makes it more likely he'll be president some day. People will just vote against the "child bullying" protesters and forget Hawley tried to destroy America.

[maxsolomon]

25. You're saying there ought to be a law, though.

Cops came and told the crowd there was a law, and they left, right?

Should be a fun case if they charge the march organizers.

[Rorey]

20. It'll be interesting to see how this turns out

In the article, it says that the protestors left after 30 minutes when the police arrived and told them it was illegal for them to demonstrate outside of the house. I guess they'll get clarification from court.

Hawley's wife said there was banging on the door, while the protestors said it was peaceful chanting and singing. and that three of them went up to the door at one point to drop off a copy of the Constitution. I'm thinking that Hawley's wife's might be exaggerating with the term "banging". There's probably video to show how it really happened.

Personally, I wouldn't be part of a protest in a residential area. Still, I doubt that Hawley's wife's complaint is going to go very far.

[panader0]

12. Face it Mrs. Hawley, you married an asshole and you will be scorned

by decent people as long as he's in office.

[Hassin Bin Sober]

14. What? No raised fist in the air for THESE protesters?

My my my...

[ChubbyStar]

23. Indeed n/t

[onethatcares]

24. meanwhile back in Floriduh

the gov and legislature is planning on allowing vehicle drivers to run over protestors if they feel threatened. All they have to do is say,
"Those mean guys blocked the intersection and I was scared", in order to obtain their get out of jail card.

to them we are "mobs" and they'll do anything to quell our free speech.