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AnotherMother4Peace

(4,242 posts)
Sat Feb 6, 2021, 02:05 PM Feb 2021

A beloved San Diego teacher, Mario Fierro, was murdered by a MAGA this week.

What is wrong with these people. Are they all dangerous? Do they all feel entitled to kill, steal, & flaunt the law? Are they all bullies? Is this what trump has left us?

The below article shows a facebook picture of the shooter at a Trump rally with his magat hat on.

"Jesse Alvarez, 30, was arrested in a Serra Mesa neighborhood Monday night and charged with murder. Police say he killed Cathedral Catholic teacher Mario Fierro, and this was not considered a random attack."

"Fierro, who taught Social Science and helped coach the football team, recently got engaged to a fellow teacher at Cathedral Catholic. Court records show Alvarez dated that teacher for 3 1/2 years. She ended the relationship in 2019 because of "a pattern of control, manipulation, and emotional abuse which increased over time". In December 2019, she went to court asking for protection against him. "I'm seeking a restraining order as I am scared and fear for my safety." (her extended court order was denied).

*snip*

"Fierro was shot Monday morning as he was leaving his home in North Park. The 37 year old died at the scene. Today, students stopped by the location to honor the man who regularly went out of his way to make them feel special. “He just always believed in me,” Keenan Guthrie said sniffling back tears. “Not many other people did when I was told I might not ever be able to play football again.”

https://www.cbs8.com/article/news/crime/police-say-cathedral-catholic-teachers-accused-killer-is-fiances-ex-boyfriend/509-8a2d1127-180e-43a6-8920-bc969e56b166

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A beloved San Diego teacher, Mario Fierro, was murdered by a MAGA this week. (Original Post) AnotherMother4Peace Feb 2021 OP
Another woman in San Diego was murdered by her domestic abuser this week obamanut2012 Feb 2021 #1
In this case, the abuser murdered his former victim's new fianc. niyad Feb 2021 #2
That judge needs to be called out for being also guilty for this woman's death. BComplex Feb 2021 #6
No. The abuser murdered his victim's new fianc. niyad Feb 2021 #7
Got it. BComplex Feb 2021 #9
Are you trying to use a word with a special character lunatica Feb 2021 #17
How to work around that restriction: muriel_volestrangler Feb 2021 #26
Thank you very much. niyad Feb 2021 #27
Mario Fierro is the murdered teacher. He was engaged to the female teacher. The magat is her ex. AnotherMother4Peace Feb 2021 #5
I agree. salin Feb 2021 #18
It's only political in the sense that soldierant Feb 2021 #21
Yes, just like the way racists will tend to be MAGA. Trump just appeals JI7 Feb 2021 #23
Crap like that terrifies me. Ms. Toad Feb 2021 #3
She should ask Starbucks to ban that customer for life. They did it in Santee, Liberty Belle Feb 2021 #16
There's been an incident report made. Ms. Toad Feb 2021 #19
To the judge who refused a restraining order against alvarez in 2019' choosing to believe him niyad Feb 2021 #4
She was granted a 3 wk, temporary restraining order, but was denied the permanent one in 12/2019. AnotherMother4Peace Feb 2021 #8
So, clearly, the judge did not believe that alvarez was a real threat. niyad Feb 2021 #10
In this case, it sounds like the Judge made a very poor assumption of the situation. AnotherMother4Peace Feb 2021 #13
I always wonder if the judges have a certain type of background JI7 Feb 2021 #24
The courts in San Diego... 2naSalit Feb 2021 #11
The courts in the US aren't friendly to women. a la izquierda Feb 2021 #15
We had serious issues with the cops and courts when it came to women's issues when I was niyad Feb 2021 #20
Same here. 2naSalit Feb 2021 #22
I can see the confusion, the article never identifies the woman's name just the men involved MagickMuffin Feb 2021 #12
Yes, a little confusing. The fact that the murderer was a MAGAT just makes it all the more scary. AnotherMother4Peace Feb 2021 #14
MAGA is all about resentment and bitterness JI7 Feb 2021 #25
There have been 3 murders in this neighborhood in the last 18 years FreeState Feb 2021 #29
Magats seem to have a common denominator of violent tendencies, AnotherMother4Peace Feb 2021 #30
This happened just down the street from me FreeState Feb 2021 #28

obamanut2012

(26,068 posts)
1. Another woman in San Diego was murdered by her domestic abuser this week
Sat Feb 6, 2021, 02:13 PM
Feb 2021

THAT is what the headline should be.

Domestic abusers and murderers of women come from all backgrounds, including many who vote blue. This is not a political issue (ie not blue or red), but a misogyny issue, and an issue of laws and societal mores not protecting women and children.

niyad

(113,262 posts)
2. In this case, the abuser murdered his former victim's new fianc.
Sat Feb 6, 2021, 02:16 PM
Feb 2021

Did you see where a judge refused to grant a restraining order against this guy? Took the alleged abuser's word over the terrified survivor.

BComplex

(8,036 posts)
6. That judge needs to be called out for being also guilty for this woman's death.
Sat Feb 6, 2021, 02:35 PM
Feb 2021

When are judges going to wake up to what really goes on?

niyad

(113,262 posts)
7. No. The abuser murdered his victim's new fianc.
Sat Feb 6, 2021, 02:40 PM
Feb 2021

(Damn spell check. It keeps correcting to an incorrect word. Grrrrrr)

lunatica

(53,410 posts)
17. Are you trying to use a word with a special character
Sat Feb 6, 2021, 04:16 PM
Feb 2021

like fiancé? The reply title doesn’t accept any special character like accents over letters or ę, ê, ë like the body of the message text does.

muriel_volestrangler

(101,307 posts)
26. How to work around that restriction:
Sat Feb 6, 2021, 07:09 PM
Feb 2021
https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1256&pid=18006

(basically, type fianc&ampeacute; . And if you preview it, or come back later to edit it, you have to do that again)

AnotherMother4Peace

(4,242 posts)
5. Mario Fierro is the murdered teacher. He was engaged to the female teacher. The magat is her ex.
Sat Feb 6, 2021, 02:22 PM
Feb 2021

The article is a follow-up (with additional info) to prior articles. I do see that it might be a little confusing - I'll reread and maybe edit.

salin

(48,955 posts)
18. I agree.
Sat Feb 6, 2021, 04:55 PM
Feb 2021

It isn't a political issue. I don't see where Maga comes in. Distracts from the horrible issue of domestic violence.

soldierant

(6,847 posts)
21. It's only political in the sense that
Sat Feb 6, 2021, 05:15 PM
Feb 2021

the MAGAt "platform" (if you can call it a platform) is the platform of abusers. Abuse is baked into the foundation That does not mean that every Republican will be abusive (not that I personally would like to take the chance), nor does it mean that no Democrats will be abusive, but the odds to run that way.

JI7

(89,247 posts)
23. Yes, just like the way racists will tend to be MAGA. Trump just appeals
Sat Feb 6, 2021, 06:46 PM
Feb 2021

to these violent hateful types full of bitterness and resentment.

Ms. Toad

(34,062 posts)
3. Crap like that terrifies me.
Sat Feb 6, 2021, 02:18 PM
Feb 2021

My daughter works at Starbucks and came home last night very upset because she had asked a woman who insisted in standing in her face to step back, the woman refused my daughter's polite request twice - so my daughter told her that someone else would have to make her drink. After she walked off, the woman apparently went into a rant about how people like my daughter make her want to gouge her eyes out - and she (my daughter) should just go kill herself.

As I'm sure Trump's attorneys will say next week - It's just words. Which is true until it's not . . . until it's not, and January 6 tells us that they are willing to escalate from words to action very easily.

Aside from being worried that this woman - or someone like it will get physical next time - my daughter has struggled with anxiety and depression including thoughts of suicide.

So proud of her for holding her temper, and glad Starbucks supported her decision not to serve the woman who insisted on standing right in her face.

Liberty Belle

(9,534 posts)
16. She should ask Starbucks to ban that customer for life. They did it in Santee,
Sat Feb 6, 2021, 04:03 PM
Feb 2021

at a store where a woman with no mask terrorized a black barrista by getting right in her face and as I recall, also making a racial slur.



Ms. Toad

(34,062 posts)
19. There's been an incident report made.
Sat Feb 6, 2021, 04:57 PM
Feb 2021

She'll likely have to have another incident reported before they ban the customer. This one was at least wearing a mask - she was just inches away from the prep area, wouldn't step back, and clearly itching for a fight.

niyad

(113,262 posts)
4. To the judge who refused a restraining order against alvarez in 2019' choosing to believe him
Sat Feb 6, 2021, 02:19 PM
Feb 2021

rather than his victim, clearly, you are a lousy judge of character.

AnotherMother4Peace

(4,242 posts)
13. In this case, it sounds like the Judge made a very poor assumption of the situation.
Sat Feb 6, 2021, 03:03 PM
Feb 2021

The young woman detailed in her 5 page request that Alvarez had tried to break into her home wearing a hoodie & sunglasses, stalked her at Disneyland, phoned her obsessively, showed up at events, etc. etc. & his behavior was escalating. The school where she teaches, Cathedral Catholic, even posted warnings about Alvarez around campus.

https://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/news/public-safety/story/2021-02-02/police-arrest-suspect-jesse-alvarez-in-north-parking-killing-of-cathedral-catholic-teacher-mario-fierro

"Notes in the court file from the Jan. 22, 2020 hearing state that Superior Court Judge Daniel Belsky found both of them credible, and found Alvarez to be “very sincere.” The judge said emotions were running high, and that it had taken Alvarez “time to process and realize that the relationship was over.” Belsky dismissed the case."

JI7

(89,247 posts)
24. I always wonder if the judges have a certain type of background
Sat Feb 6, 2021, 06:53 PM
Feb 2021

when I read these things.

The things he did went beyond just being upset over a breakup.

2naSalit

(86,536 posts)
11. The courts in San Diego...
Sat Feb 6, 2021, 02:48 PM
Feb 2021

Are not female friendly. Haven't been. It is not progressive when it comes to violence against women and child custody cases at all.

niyad

(113,262 posts)
20. We had serious issues with the cops and courts when it came to women's issues when I was
Sat Feb 6, 2021, 05:13 PM
Feb 2021

there many years ago. Nothing has changed.

2naSalit

(86,536 posts)
22. Same here.
Sat Feb 6, 2021, 06:27 PM
Feb 2021

Also have extended family there and have seen the horrors of the courts for three generations messing up families with their child custody practices. And you're right about the cops too. That place needs a reintroduction to American Values.

MagickMuffin

(15,936 posts)
12. I can see the confusion, the article never identifies the woman's name just the men involved
Sat Feb 6, 2021, 02:54 PM
Feb 2021


The article is definitely confusing and since they never identify the woman's name made the story a little difficult to understand.


AnotherMother4Peace

(4,242 posts)
14. Yes, a little confusing. The fact that the murderer was a MAGAT just makes it all the more scary.
Sat Feb 6, 2021, 03:14 PM
Feb 2021

There's something about magats that make them feel entitled to be violent, murder, flaunt the law. I know one magat that now I definitely would not allow around my house or family.

JI7

(89,247 posts)
25. MAGA is all about resentment and bitterness
Sat Feb 6, 2021, 06:55 PM
Feb 2021

This is why they love Trump. They can relate to his own feelings that way.

FreeState

(10,570 posts)
29. There have been 3 murders in this neighborhood in the last 18 years
Sat Feb 6, 2021, 08:12 PM
Feb 2021

A gang shooting, murder by cop and now this one - stocking an ex. It had nothing to do with Trump and everything to do with domestic violence.

AnotherMother4Peace

(4,242 posts)
30. Magats seem to have a common denominator of violent tendencies,
Sat Feb 6, 2021, 08:50 PM
Feb 2021

entitlement, irrational thought. So if a magat gets "crossed" or feels "disrespected" or wronged, there's a much greater chance that he/she will lash out and seek revenge. I have not worked out the stats, but that's how the numbers are coming up.

In this tragic situation, the magat murdered the fiancee of his ex-girlfriend. She was granted a temporary 3 month restraining order against him, but was denied a permanent restraining order despite his increasingly dangerous & threatening behavior.

I don't know if a permanent restraining order would have done any good in this case, since the violence/murder was not against her but her fiancee.


FreeState

(10,570 posts)
28. This happened just down the street from me
Sat Feb 6, 2021, 08:10 PM
Feb 2021

Last night we drove by the candles and signs left still burning on the sidewalk. Heartbreaking to see.

This didn’t have anything to do with Trump though. Domestic violence crosses all groups unfortunately.

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