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struggle4progress

(118,350 posts)
Sat Feb 6, 2021, 05:04 PM Feb 2021

Is impeachment trial unconstitutional?

By Star-Ledger Guest Columnist
By Ian J. Drake

... the language of the Constitution and the history of impeachment ultimately suggest the trial can - and should - proceed ...

... the anti-trial side .. points to .. Madison’s statements in Federalist No. 39, wherein he contended that the president “is impeachable at any time during his continuance in office.”

... Madison was distinguishing the proposed federal constitution from some state constitutions that only allowed impeachment once the official was “out of office,” as well as some that lacked any “explicit provision” for impeachment of the executive. Second .. Madison referred to “impeachment” while still in office, not trial for impeachment. ... Trump .. was still in office when .. impeached ...

... the express language of the Constitution .. supports the pro-trial side: Article I, Section 3, Clause 6 provides that the Senate has the “sole Power to try all Impeachments.” The “all” language has no qualification and Trump was validly impeached while still in office. Therefore, the text itself implicitly allows for a Senate trial of any valid impeachment by the House, regardless of when the trial happens ...

https://www.nj.com/opinion/2021/02/is-trumps-impeachment-trial-unconstitutional-an-expert-weighs-in-opinion.html

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Is impeachment trial unconstitutional? (Original Post) struggle4progress Feb 2021 OP
It's... Mike Nelson Feb 2021 #1
At time he was impeached by House, it made sense because Hoyt Feb 2021 #2
House impeached him while was still a sitting President wishstar Feb 2021 #3
 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
2. At time he was impeached by House, it made sense because
Sat Feb 6, 2021, 05:14 PM
Feb 2021

if the POS had done anything else, he could be removed quickly by Senate.

I suppose there is no alternative but to go through with it now, but it’s not going to punish trump in anyway. He’s not likely to run in 2024, he wouldn’t make it through primaries anyway, and no one’s mind will be changed by what is presented. It’s going through the motions.

wishstar

(5,271 posts)
3. House impeached him while was still a sitting President
Sat Feb 6, 2021, 05:16 PM
Feb 2021

so its irrelevant that trial is occurring after his Presidency otherwise a Pres. could commit any kind of impeachable offenses right before leaving office with no accountability.

As previous poster mentioned, House impeaching him quickly might have also silenced him and kept him from committing further seditionous acts before Biden's inauguration since Senate could have removed him and punished him more harshly.

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