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Donkees

(31,367 posts)
Sat Feb 6, 2021, 08:46 PM Feb 2021

Bernie: In these difficult times, ALL working class people deserve the full $1,400

I strongly oppose lowering income eligibility for direct payments from $75,000 to $50,000 for individuals and $150,000 to $100,000 for couples. In these difficult times, ALL working class people deserve the full $1,400. Last I heard, someone making $55,000 a year is not "rich."



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FirstLight

(13,359 posts)
1. I agree...
Sat Feb 6, 2021, 08:53 PM
Feb 2021

Maybe the fight right now is gonna fuck up or delay payments, I dont know... but I dont think a couple making six figures is rich these days either. (though what do i know, I'v been below the poverty line my entire adult life!)

BlueTsunami2018

(3,490 posts)
2. $75k isn't a whole lot of money.
Sat Feb 6, 2021, 08:55 PM
Feb 2021

In a big city, that’s barely getting by. Like with the minimum wage issue, it all plays different in different regions.

bamagal62

(3,246 posts)
3. Agreed. My son makes about $60,000
Sat Feb 6, 2021, 09:12 PM
Feb 2021

And we help out. When you’re in a city, it doesn’t go very far. Add kids to that and life is very tough.

stopbush

(24,395 posts)
4. Indeed. Why is there no thought given to cost of living in different areas?
Sat Feb 6, 2021, 09:20 PM
Feb 2021

A person earning $50k in WV who moved to San Francisco would need to earn $157k to maintain the same level of CoL. Using income as a means test without adjusting for CoL adversely effects people living in urban districts, districts that are typically Democratic.

Thrill

(19,178 posts)
5. Here they come with this BS again
Sat Feb 6, 2021, 09:26 PM
Feb 2021

And they wonder why they stay in the minority. Absolutely no reason they should even be talking about lowering this. Unreal. Bernie should be pissed


MontanaFarmer

(630 posts)
6. Very stupid politics on the dems part.
Sat Feb 6, 2021, 09:47 PM
Feb 2021

The public wants the stimulus bill as it was promised. Easy decision.

Donkees

(31,367 posts)
7. Sanders, @RonWyden and a number of House Dems, including AOC, pushing back ...
Sat Feb 6, 2021, 10:17 PM
Feb 2021
Sanders, @RonWyden and a number of House Dems, including AOC, pushing back against plan to drop income threshold as widely confirmed by multiple news outlets. Wonder if conversation moves to phase out *rate*, as White House suggested Friday




rso

(2,271 posts)
8. Bernie
Sat Feb 6, 2021, 10:18 PM
Feb 2021

Agree with Bernie, but it appears that Manchin is the main proponent of the lower earnings threshold. What can we do when a democrat that we need to complete the 50 + 1 is refusing to go with the program ?.

rso

(2,271 posts)
9. Bernie
Sat Feb 6, 2021, 10:19 PM
Feb 2021

Agree with Bernie, but it appears that Manchin is the main proponent of the lower earnings threshold. What can we do when a democrat that we need to complete the 50 + 1 is refusing to go with the program ?.

Johnny2X2X

(19,023 posts)
10. Love that Bernie is so front and center lately
Sat Feb 6, 2021, 10:26 PM
Feb 2021

Really doing good work and he’s helping Biden accomplish his agenda.

ZZenith

(4,119 posts)
11. It drives me fucking nuts that anybody's arguing like $1400 is some huge amount of money.
Sat Feb 6, 2021, 10:28 PM
Feb 2021

During a pandemic that’s lasted the better part of a year.

Meanwhile, Jeff Bezos could spend $500,000,000 A MONTH FOR THE NEXT TWENTY FUCKING YEARS and still have SIXTY BIILION FUCKING DOLLARS in the bank.

Perspective, people, perspective!

Celerity

(43,265 posts)
15. it's 400 usd less than what was sent out under Rump (and that POS actually wanted to send 2000
Sat Feb 6, 2021, 10:58 PM
Feb 2021

usd for the 2nd one, so the total would have been 3200 versus 1400, meaning an 1800 difference). 1200+600 versus 1400 as it stands, and millions of people now apparently will get nothing or near nothing after getting all or close to all of the 1800 usd from the first two cheques.

I understand there is nothing we can do if Manchin decides to play the 'sole decider' role, but he is killing us on multiple issues that most all other Democrats support and on which Biden (and almost all other Dems) campaigned on (such as the GA runoffs).

We have a TONNE of voters in that 50K to 99K usd per year category (99K meant you get zero for the first 1200 usd cheque, someone making say 80K still almost all of the first one, although the top limit for getting zero on the 2nd cheques was lowered from 99K to 87K, which meant they got over half, but not almost the full amount for the 600 usd 2nd one like they did the first 1200 usd one)

tritsofme

(17,373 posts)
12. The last thing Democrats want to do is create a class of voters who got checks under Trump
Sat Feb 6, 2021, 10:33 PM
Feb 2021

But not Biden. Just keep it consistent.

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