Seditionaries: FBI net closes on Maga mob that stormed the Capitol

[LiberalArkie]

As prosecutors from the House of Representatives prepare to present their case against Donald Trump at his impeachment trial next week for incitement of insurrection, supporters who heeded his call on 6 January to “fight like hell” and went on to storm the Capitol Building are finding themselves in far greater legal peril.

The trial that kicks off in the US Senate on Tuesday could lead to a further vote that would permanently debar Trump from holding office in the future. By contrast, the mob of fervent Maga acolytes who broke into the US Capitol following an incendiary rally headlined by Trump could face prison for up to 20 years.

One month after the events which left five people dead including a US Capitol police officer, there is no sign of the Department of Justice and FBI letting up in their relentless pursuit of the insurrectionists. In the past week alone there have been arrests of alleged rioters in Seattle, Washington; Las Vegas, Nevada; Corinth, Texas; Garner, North Carolina; and Marion, Illinois.

All 56 FBI field offices are engaged in a huge investigation that ranks alongside the biggest the bureau has conducted. As Michael Sherwin, acting US attorney for Washington DC which is leading the hunt, has put it: “The scope and scale of this investigation are really unprecedented, not only in FBI history but probably DoJ history.”

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https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/feb/06/us-capitol-insurrection-fbi-investigation

[Blue Owl]

1. Good to hear!

This last month has been one after the other... but I say KEEP 'EM COMING until every last one of those fuckers is in the GOP Klink Tank!

[LiberalArkie]

2. Th common denominator they say:

The one common denominator uniting this large group is not any extremist group, website or media outlet, but an individual – Donald Trump. This is why the connection between the pending impeachment trial and the ongoing FBI roundup of suspects is so critical.



A very good article

[triron]

21. But democrats are making a grave error if they don't call witnesses.

[maxsolomon]

3. So... there were FIVE arrests this week?

How many of the rabble went IN to the Capitol? IN to the Chambers and Congressional Offices? 300? How many on the Capitol Grounds?

I want more.

[clementine613]

4. We need about seventy million more arrests...

Lock up every person who supported Trump. They're all seditionists.

[maxsolomon]

5. LOL, lock up my Dad.

I'll settle for every one who went in the doors and everyone who spoke at the 1/5 rally, the 1/6 rally. And the insurrection conspirators.

[clementine613]

6. I'm sorry about your Dad.

But I don't settle that easy. Everyone who supported him needs to go.

[maxsolomon]

7. Odds are he will soon enough.

He's turning 85.

He's not a vehement supporter; he's brainwashed by his media diet. FoxNews, but no NPR, no newspaper. Living in a bubble of Whiteness and told over and over to be afraid, that Liberals are evil, filled with slippery-slope fears of minorities, and instantly defensive when confronted.

There are millions and millions of Trump voters just like that.

[ShazzieB]

18. Good luck proving that in a court of law.

Voting for a seditious dirt bag (even one as disgusting and morally repugnant as Chump) is not a crime. In this country, we are allowed freedom of choice at the ballot box. If people make a stupid choice in who to vote for, that's a shame, but it is not a crime. This is called democracy.

The day Americans can be jailed for voting for the wrong person, we will no longer have even a semblance of democracy in this country. Is that REALLY what you want? (Hint: that's a rhetorical question.)

[Skittles]

25. ridiculous

they are idiots but not necessarily criminals

[dware]

26. This is stupid beyond reason.

Lock up 70 million people because they are guilty of supporting Trump?
This is what despots do, like Hitler, Pol Pot, Kim Jong Un, etc.

Are you sure you're at the right site?

[Hortensis]

10. The guardian said 235 has been arrested

It also pointed out that Trump is on track to walk free while many of those who attacked on his orders will be spending years in prison.

[maxsolomon]

12. I don't believe they'll have lengthy sentences. Most will plead out.

and walk away with 6 months at the most. I just have no faith that "many" will spend years - people are bandying the 20 year max sentence about - in federal prison.

[Hortensis]

19. Well, in many cases that will be appropriate. They're stupid victims

of an elected president who called them to save their nation from a stolen election. A bunch of times over the past 4-1/2 years I wondered what my husband and I could do if we were in that position -- for real.

How much stupid-victim criminals should be punished and why has always been a big question. Usually conservatives are the ones who believe in the desirability of strong punitive retribution regardless and liberals who don't feel society is always best served that way and concerned with humane and proportional justice.

As for the others, I wouldn't waste my time complaining many aren't in big trouble. Yes, we need stronger sentences for domestic terrorism, but a 10-year sentence is 10 years even if the possible max, that we know of, is only 20 instead of life.

[Dark n Stormy Knight]

23. Exactly! The FBI page asking for help IDing the insurrectionists has disappointingly few "Arrested."

I did my bit to help, but got very little interest: https://www.democraticunderground.com/100215041009

[BComplex]

8. I'm not excited about this. I don't trust that we don't have our own Atty. General seeing to

things at Justice, and I don't trust trump's FBI to go the whole distance against the white supremacists.

Sorry. I just don't.

[DonaldsRump]

9. Agree. Michael Sherwin is Trump's guy

I think they should delay the impeachment trial for a week, get all the DOJ and US Attorney appointees confirmed (let VP Harris camp out in the Senate all week!) and then move on to the trial.

[BComplex]

11. I vote for that! Plus, they need to make the vote totally anonymous for conviction.

There is too much at stake for this country to take a chance on trump ever running for office again.

[bucolic_frolic]

13. This was not spontaneous

Where was Homeland Security prior to the big day?

[erronis]

15. I guess your question was rhetorical. Where was Homeland Security before? Helping the seccessionists

I nicer group of White people with power complexes couldn't be found. Used to be we'd call them WASPs.

ICE in my neck of the woods is all men/boys strutting their stuff. Not a whole lot of people with empathy, compassion, understanding.

I'm sure there are some good apples in that barrel but it has to be hard not to turn rotten.

[Poiuyt]

14. What I want to see exposed are all the representatives and senators who conspired with them

It's one thing for the great unwashed to go crazy, it's quite another when our elected politicians give aid and comfort to those trying to overthrow our government.

[crickets]

20. I'm so with you on that. nt

[EarnestPutz]

16. The arrests in Marion, Illinois are interesting. They could just drive by the Federal Prison....

....as they take the newly arrested Trump supporters into custody and point out what could be their new home for the next 20 years.

[SWBTATTReg]

17. No peace, no rest, nothing for those that participated at trump's behest to surround the Capital and

do mayhem. trump too.

By the way, they grabbed a couple of these idiots in Missouri too, I didn't see Missouri listed above/in the post.

[triron]

22. knr

[DFW]

24. I want to see the organizers and financiers behind bars with a ten year minimum for each

Putting the idiots with the flags away for six months is good, too, if it's in a nasty facility, and gives them a taste of what's in store for the next time.

But the ones who put up the money and took the weeks to plan this--in all likelihood, grinning while watching their zealous stooges from their living room sofas--THEY are the ones who are the real danger to the country. THEY are the ones who would have profited in terms of power and influence if the mob had found Pelosi and Pence. The ones I want identified, convicted, and put away for good are the ones who paid for the plans to the capitol, the buses full of Trumpanzees, the plane trips, the hotel rooms. THESE are the ones who are the "enemies, domestic" that posed (and still pose) a threat to end our democracy, once and for all. Yes, the ones who are willing to travel to Washington and break into the Capitol are dangerous. But no one of them would have had the means or the guts to do this on their own. The ones willing to shell out tons of money to make it all happen are the greater danger.

[Johnny2X2X]

27. I was an MSU student in the late 90s

One spring night after a basketball game there was a large scale riot, 20,000 young people took to the streets, lit fires, broke windows, and damaged several vehicles. I was not in town that night, but the consequences of that night played out over the next year.

There were hundreds of photos that local law enforcement put out there with a tip line to ID rioters. It took months and months, but people were held to account. You'd read stories over the next year about new perps getting IDed, arrested, and expelled. What first was a few dozen people arrested grew and grew to a few hundred. People who thought they were in the clear had their lives turned upside down 2 semesters later.

And that's what we'll be seeing for the next year. At first it was several dozen arrests, now it's 250. 6 months from now it may be 1,000. there are tens of thousands of still pictures, tens of thousands of social media posts, and hundreds of hours of video that investigators are cataloging and pouring over. This was an unprecedented event and justice will be served. Charges are coming, charges are being amended, there is nowhere to hide. And the criminals know this too, every day right now they're waiting for a knock on the door, for many of them it won't come for many months. Some will think they are in the clear when that knock does come. Few will get away with what they did. I firmly believe 99% of those who illegally entered the capitol will be IDed and charged. This is how justice works, it's slow, but the progress is inevitable.

[maxsolomon]

28. I hope you're right.

But when there's hundreds, maybe thousands, to hold to account, arresting 5 more a drop in the bucket.