Moderna Second Shot

[4Q2u2]

Received it Friday at 0800. Did my 1/2hr sit down under supervision.
Felt fine. Got home and was tired. Friday night was hell for me. Fever, bad chills, body aches, tossing and turning.
I was on the couch all day Saturday like I had the flu.
I thought my Typhoid and my Yellow fever shots were bad. This one really hit me hard.
Others who got the shot with me had little to no symptoms.
If you are on this protocol. Many people recommend starting meds and keeping up with them before and after the shot.
Having the peace of mind is nice though.

https://www.cnn.com/2021/02/04/health/coronavirus-vaccine-second-shot-effects-wellness/index.html

[Gothmog]

1. I get my second Moderna shot on Feb.13

One of my law partners and Juanita Jean's husband each got their second shot this week and had similar symptoms. I am planning on taking it easy that weekend after my second shot

[4Q2u2]

2. Good Plan

Prep with ibuprofen and fluids.
Having the time just in case is a positive.

[LizBeth]

13. I heard don't take any of that ibuprofen and others. I have heard both ahead of time especially,

but a few say even after a couple days. That it is suggested weakens the vaccine, and hides symptoms. Over the last couple weeks I have not gotten a solid answer on that and have been paying attention, like now, lol.

[Gothmog]

15. I avoid NSEDs due to kidney issues

NSEDs are bad for kidneys.

[4Q2u2]

17. I am not sure how well i would have done

Without meds after my shot. I was burning up and was racked with pain.
Uncle Sam has shot me full of all kinds of stuff over the years, and this one by FAR was the worst.
It was like a double dose of my Lyme's disease.

[LizBeth]

23. "I was burning up" This is what I was hearing and while a couple days after, or even after with

fever, would be the common sense reason why you take it. So I hear you. I will just watch, see and judge myself. And reality, I think the suggestion that may "weaken" would be like, not enough to even have the consideration if you need the medicine.

Thanks.

I am getting it in a couple weeks.

[SCantiGOP]

21. Correct - DO NOT take meds before the shot

Tylenol and ibuprofen both suppress the immune response if they are in your system, and will slightly lessen the reaction of the shot.
You can take Tylenol after you have the shot.

My daughter is a nurse, and had Covid in July and her vaccine in early January. She said she was far sicker 12 hours after the second shot than she was with the actual virus, but it only lasted about 6-8 hours.

[LizBeth]

26. Your nurse daughter is saying what I hear most consistently and

from people in medical field. This is a good post, and I like that there is an app where they monitor me. I dont often take pills, so I should pick up some tylenol before I get the shot. I have advil only.

Thanks.

What is a day in bed in the scheme of things.

[Oldem]

53. FWIW, my doc said she

took nothing for twelve hours after the first shot; she wanted her body to have its full reaction to the shot. Then she took one ibuprofen. Several hours later, she took one acetaminophen. That's it. Not giving medical advice, just passing on what I was told. I get my first Pfizer shot, tomorrow, and will try to tough it out if I have a bad reaction.

[MrModerate]

52. Acetaminophen (Tylenol) I'm told. So as to not interfere with turning on of the immune system. n/t

[Squinch]

31. Gothmog, me too! Same day! We'll go through whatever it is together.

[deurbano]

64. That's the day I get my second Moderna shot, too! I had a delayed "COVID arm" rash at the injection

site 14 days after the first shot (red, warm and itchy, but it went away after three days), and some fatigue and arm soreness in the day or so after the first shot.

[Initech]

3. My brother got his second shot already.

He said that it kicks your ass but you get over it in a day or two.

[4Q2u2]

5. It does

A little pain is better than a lot dead.

[Initech]

29. Agreed!

[LizBeth]

16. I have never had the flu though, or any of these things so they are sounding scary

to me, lol. Trusting in not a big deal. I am gonna let a friend get her second shot and offer her to walk dog twice in the day, at least the first day. Then get mine and she can do the same for me because if I feel that bad, wouldn't be fun walking a dog.

[4Q2u2]

20. I was the Clear minority

A few had bad symptoms. Most had mild or nothing.
Best advice, if you can plan your shot, then do it that way.

[LizBeth]

27. Good to know. Thank you. I am such a baby, but helps for me to get as much info as I can. TY

[CountAllVotes]

34. They are scary!

They are in un-chartered waters with all of these "vaccines".

They haven't been studied long enough to prove efficacy.

?

Damn right I am scared, esp. after reading the the OP's account!

I mean seriously ...

[phylny]

42. You know what's really scary?

Having lingering medical complications due to Coronavirus.

Being intubated due to Coronavirus.

Dying due to Coronavirus.

[4Q2u2]

49. This was to inform people

To be ready and if they can plan their shot, they should.
I recommend all shots. Like I said previous.
I have had Typhoid, Anthrax, Yellow Fever, Plague, Both Hep's, Many others I cannot recall, and I still believe in vaccination.
Just have time set aside and fluids. I just did not want people with little or no sick time to be adversely effected, work wise.

[samnsara]

4. Fauci said not to take pain meds before the shot..he said it may make it somewhat less effective

.. Hubby and I had Pfizer and no problems at all...knock on wood. My second one is next week.

[4Q2u2]

8. I did not take anything before

The people that did had little side effects.
I will never pull a trump and ignore Fauci.

[Siwsan]

6. That's what happened to my brother after his first Moderna jab. He had Covid, last year.

He had the jab Friday at 11 and finally felt better, this morning. He said the side effects felt the same as the actual affliction.

[4Q2u2]

11. One of my guys

Tested positive with no symptoms.
Second shot did nothing to him.

[Siwsan]

14. That's my concern AND hope

My brother was at my house several times when he was likely very contagious, but it was early in the pandemic and we didn't know as much as we do, now. So, is it possible I caught it but was asymptomatic?

I've never had flu, either. Or, if I have, I was asymptomatic with that, too. He has had very symptomatic flu.

Of course, I have no idea what brand of vaccine I'll be receiving, when the time comes.

[LizBeth]

19. Ya. This is all interesting because it is all new, for everyone. I think the whole front desk got it

Jan 6th'ish, 2021. We all went down, about the same period and had different experience. We are hotel in Eugene and we had a tech company from Ca at our front desk putting in a system for a week. I joked with one if he went to China for Christmas. He says, no.... went beginning of Dec and far from the spot. But, this was before we knew anything. So I too wonder about the shot related to having had covid. I do like to hear others experience.

[4Q2u2]

25. If you were thank your stars

One of my employees is just coming out of their Medically induced coma after 2 months. He was on deaths door.


PS In a former life I was known as CMCS(SWC)
Go Navy

[Siwsan]

28. I lost a good friend to Covid, back in November

She was also in a medically induced coma. They started to bring her out, but the damage to her lungs was catastrophic.

Go, Navy!!

[4Q2u2]

30. Shame

A good life lost.

[roamer65]

43. A relative who works assisting a doctor said they are seeing it from those who have had the virus.

The vaccine is knocking them around so much more that they see it as a possible indicator to past SARS-CoV-2 infection.

[ecstatic]

71. Very interesting! Nt

[handmade34]

7. my daughter

got her second shot last week... home from work, felt unwell and she slept through the next day

[4Q2u2]

10. Not bad

Glad that she is doing better.

[MizLibby]

9. Has anyone received a Pfizer 2nd shot yet?

I'm due in 2 weeks for mine, curious if anyone reports side effects. None with first dose except slightly sore injection spot, but that's it.

[Ms. Toad]

51. My parents did -

slightly more side effects than the first dose (my mother felt injection and could find the injection site for a few days; my father couldn't sleep on that arm for a few days). But nothing to write home about.

Their reactions were similar to their flu shots. My mom notices nothing; my father reacts a bit more.

[likesmountains 52]

76. I got my second Pfizer on Saturday.

Sore arm for about 8 hours, kind of tired on Sunday. Nothing really. Hope yours goes as well!

[RandySF]

12. Same goes for Pfizer

I have a co-worker who got the second dose and felt crappy after.

[MizLibby]

37. Thanks RandySF for answering my question n/t

[BComplex]

18. Good to know. I know we're not supposed to take ibuprofen around the time of the vaccine. Does

anyone know if we can take acetaminophen?

[IBEWVET]

22. mine was not to bad

very sore arm, woke up at 2:00 could not get back to sleep. a few chills and temp was 99.8 at 8:in the morning. No headache or body aches. Temp was gone a couple of hours later. Tired the next day feel fine today. Not as bad as I thought.

[Rebl2]

24. My Mom and Dad

are in a nursing home and they got their second Moderna shot this last Wednesday. I FaceTimed with them the next day and my Dad was talkative and happy while my Mom was very tired. She kept her head in her hand or over her face practically the whole time. I felt so bad for her. She definitely was fatigued.

[iemitsu]

32. I felt this way after the first Moderna shot.

Hope the second is easier.

[CountAllVotes]

33. I hope you are ok!

Crippers!

Your post scares the hell out of me!

[4Q2u2]

57. I am good thank you

I just wanted people to be able to plan their shot if they could.
Not everyone has sick time. So plan for the worse and hope for the best.
I am sorry to all that I scared. Definitely not my intention.

[DesertRat]

35. I've heard that the reaction is worse the younger you are

due to a stronger immune response. Can anyone comment on this?? If true, it may be the one time I'm glad I'm over 60.

[LizBeth]

36. Ya... I heard that and have been paying attention. I am thinking 60 isn't old enough.

Maybe we read the same source because I have only seen it once. Nothing since and I have asked a few times.

[4Q2u2]

50. 55

For me

[marlakay]

38. We are getting our Moderna shots end of month

First one. You guys are scaring me. I hate shots already. Ugh!

[CountAllVotes]

39. My husband had the 1st Moderna shot 10 days ago

He had no symptoms or reactions to it. He is pushing 85 years.

I am almost 65 and suffer from MS. I have a lot of allergies to all kinds of things.

I was told it is my duty as a citizen of this country to get the shot by the health provider I go to.

I relayed my fears which went into deaf ears!

[marlakay]

40. I am getting it more afraid of Covid

And want my life back. Have another grandchild coming end of April.

[CountAllVotes]

41. You have something to look forward to

I do not.

It really bothers me the way I am being IGNORED.

[marlakay]

45. By your hubby? Doctor?

You mean your feelings? I would talk it out with them.

[LisaL]

63. Ultimately it's your decision.

If you are afraid of side effects, Johnson and Johnson vaccine is supposed to be very safe, with minor side effects (but it's less effective).

[roamer65]

46. Don't be scared.

I got the first one with mild side effects. If you do get a bit more severe, just rest and baby yourself. You deserve it for positive step you have taken.

[marlakay]

47. Thanks

Just kind of dreading it.

[roamer65]

48. Just before I got the shot...

I looked at the nurse and said “wow...I can’t believe I’m getting a vaccine for a SARS virus...crazy world now isn’t it?”

She said “Yes, it is.”

[roamer65]

44. We need to remember one thing.

This is a vaccine to a SARS virus. We’re not in Kansas, anymore.

Definitely not our garden variety flu, so we will feel the immune response but it’s better than a ICU ventilator.

[mac2766]

54. My wife had exactly the same affect...

She had no affects with the first shot. She received the 2nd shot on Friday. She was achy, chilled, and felt generally ill on Friday night and slept all day Saturday. She still feels a little ill today, but much better than she did Friday night and Saturday.

She works in the medical industry so she got her shots through her company. She's 55, I'm 56. I'm hoping to be able to get mine in the next month or so. With my luck though, I'll get the virus just before I'm eligible to take the shot.

(Edit)... She also got the Medurna shots

[4Q2u2]

56. I am 55

I work with the military so that is how I received my shots.
Can't be spreading death viruses around the troops. Kind of like: "No fighting in the War Room"
Still lingering today but nothing like Friday night.

That bug is bad JuJu. I do not wish that on anyone.




We maybe not anyone?

[birdographer]

55. I had hoped

that this would all be different. I had foolishly thought--say in July or so--that when the vaccine came out, it would be OUT, like flu shots--you make an appt and go get it. So the plan was for the hubs and I to stagger them so if we both have severe reactions, the other one can let the dogs in and out, feed them, and be up and about feeling fine. No such luck. We feel fortunate to have gotten in for our first Moderna shots on the 4th. Absolutely zero reaction for both of us, barely even arm soreness. I hope the next one does not knock us both out, someone has to tend to the dogs. We are 69 and 70, he is far healthier than I am and so I hope he has less reaction, if there is going to be fallout from it.

The idea that younger people have a worse reaction interests me. The younger the person, the more likely they were slathered with antibacterial stuff as kids. Us? Children of the 50's--we basically ate the sand in our sandbox (what? cats peed there? No prob!) and other dirt, we were exposed to everything, not like kids today. I think this has served us well.

[Turin_C3PO]

65. The reason why younger people

may react worse has nothing to do with anti-bacterial soap or anything that you said. It has to do with the age old fact that young people have stronger immune systems than older people, making their reaction to the shot worse.

[birdographer]

75. Got a link for that?

Specifically citing immune responses to COVID vaccines, sorted by age groups?

[Duppers]

78. Our immune system does change with age...

Found this...

https://medlineplus.gov/ency/article/004008.htm

[Squinch]

58. When you say take meds before and after, do you mean like tylenol or Advil?

[4Q2u2]

59. From other posters

Before is not recommended. It could interfere with potency.
I took nothing before, and Tylenol cold and flu afterwards.
The main thing is if you can plan your shot, try to.
That way you have a rest period if you need it. A lot of people do not have sick time.

[Squinch]

62. I am scheduled for early next Saturday morning, so I will be able to rest up afterward.

And the Tylenol cold and flu worked for you?

[Aristus]

60. Got my second Moderna on Friday.

Yesterday, I could barely move, I was so sore and fatigued. I'm a lot better now. One day down for the count is a small price to pay for immunity. I can't wait until we're all immunized, and life can return to a semblance of normality...

[4Q2u2]

61. It is a good feeling

To have that shot and feel protected.
Now on to the rest of America. My children are losing out on life experiences big time.
I feel so bad for them.

[DFW]

66. I wish we could get ours

Here in Germany, no one knows which way is up. Total chaos. We have no idea when we stand a chance of getting vaccinated, and neither does any of our doctors or the Health Department. They can't even tell us if it will be in this calendar year.

[Liberal In Texas]

67. You may be getting Sputnik V.

Read someplace Germany is or is going to negotiate with Russia.

Apparently it actually is good unlike most of the crap that comes out of Russia.

[DFW]

68. We hope not

Anything coming out of there has about as much credibility as anything coming from his pal, Trump, and any announced results for Sputnik come the baggage of doubt about the credibility of anything from there, including paid for announced results of products they make. We'd just rather not take that risk.

[Liberal In Texas]

73. Do not blame you. I would rather wait myself if we were in that situation. n/t

[KewlKat]

69. I created a thread on the subject of "prepping" prior to vaccination...it's NOT recommended.

Per medical websites, it’s NOT recommended to Pre-medicate BEFORE vaccines for most.

Read below.

Should I take Tylenol or Motrin before my vaccination?

If you regularly take aspirin, acetaminophen (e.g., Tylenol) or ibuprofen (e.g., Motrin, Advil) for other medical conditions, continue to do so as directed by your physician or as needed. Otherwise, do not pre-medicate. Taking over-the-counter medications such as acetaminophen and ibuprofen before receiving a vaccine may reduce its ability to work and blunt your immune response to the vaccine. After the vaccination, you can take acetaminophen or ibuprofen if it is otherwise safe to do so and if you have symptoms that make you uncomfortable.

https://www.bannerhealth.com/healthcareblog/advise-me/what-to-expect-when-you-get-the-covid-19-vaccination



ADDITIONAL INFO - from WebMD

Take painkillers before so you’ll hurt less later. Alternate advice: avoid them so they won’t interfere with your immune response: Some people think taking nonsteroidal anti-inflammatory drugs (NSAIDs) such as ibuprofen, naproxen, or aspirin before a vaccination “will interfere with the immune response to the vaccine,” Kaplan says. “There is no scientific data to substantiate this. However, NSAIDs may precipitate an allergic reaction in some people. Since we do not know with any certainty if and how NSAIDs affect allergic reactions to the COVID vaccines, I advise against taking NSAIDs before and for 2 hours after your vaccination, unless instructed [otherwise] by your physician.”

“There is no need to ‘pre-medicate’ with any medications for the vast majority of people,” agrees Glatt, who’s also a professor of medicine at Icahn School of Medicine at Mount Sinai. For aches, chills, and mild allergic reactions that may occur after the vaccination, taking acetaminophen or an NSAID is generally OK, he says.

https://www.webmd.com/vaccines/covid-19-vaccine/news/20210127/covid-19-vaccine-how-best-to-prepare




I’m not an authority, just sharing info. I’ve seen many posts saying do and don’t pre-medicate to minimize side effects of the vaccines and thought it deserved it’s own thread. I hate to see anyone do something that could minimize the effectiveness of the vaccines.

[SKKY]

70. I got the Moderna shot as well, and had ZERO side effects. None. Zilch.

It had me questioning whether or not I even got a shot. And I did not take anything pre-shot to mitigate the possible effects. Some mentioned taking Ibuprofen, Zinc, etc, but I kinda wanted to subject myself to it. But, seriously, nothing. Not even a shore arm.

[ecstatic]

72. First shot or second? nt

[SKKY]

79. It was my 2nd, but I noticed no difference between the 1st or 2nd...

...I've had flu shots that affected me more than this. Not sure why, because several of my co-workers were down for a couple of days after their 2nd shot.

[jayfish]

74. My Wife Received Her 2nd Shot Saturday.

It's done a real number on her. Basically, everything you described.

[KewlKat]

77. I wonder if the age of the recipient matters? I've heard older folks often don't have symptoms

after as the immune system is weaker.