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David Frum tweet: (Original Post) tblue37 Feb 2021 OP
Well, as Stephen Colbert said... Wounded Bear Feb 2021 #1
Frum running his mouth on Iran is way past ironic irisblue Feb 2021 #2
I am always surprised to find PatSeg Feb 2021 #3
I think some of them have surprised themselves. halfulglas Feb 2021 #4
Probably PatSeg Feb 2021 #7
David Frum is a Canadian, so... luvtheGWN Feb 2021 #6
That is really cool that his stepmom is your neighbor PatSeg Feb 2021 #8
This message was self-deleted by its author luvtheGWN Feb 2021 #9
David's mother was, for many years, the anchor luvtheGWN Feb 2021 #10
Yes, a lot of us here could use that kind of boredom! PatSeg Feb 2021 #11
It was a curious campaign, skewed by COVID bucolic_frolic Feb 2021 #5
So does he think lifting sanctions would make Biden look like "antifa?" David__77 Feb 2021 #12
K&R Blue Owl Feb 2021 #13

PatSeg

(47,393 posts)
3. I am always surprised to find
Sun Feb 7, 2021, 04:48 PM
Feb 2021

David Frum to be witty. Donald Trump has brought out the best in a lot of conservative republicans or former republicans. They are now free to be human.

luvtheGWN

(1,336 posts)
6. David Frum is a Canadian, so...
Sun Feb 7, 2021, 06:51 PM
Feb 2021

...of course he has a sense of humour (and can be quite self-effacing too)!

His stepmom is my neighbour. She has a sense of humour too! And so do I.

Having said that, I'm delighted that Frum is not a dyed-in-the-wool conservative after all. He's smart, well-educated, and becoming wiser as the years go by.

PatSeg

(47,393 posts)
8. That is really cool that his stepmom is your neighbor
Sun Feb 7, 2021, 07:45 PM
Feb 2021

I didn't realize that Frum was a Canadian. it appears he has dual citizenship.

Yes, he does seem to have become wiser.

Response to PatSeg (Reply #8)

luvtheGWN

(1,336 posts)
10. David's mother was, for many years, the anchor
Sun Feb 7, 2021, 09:37 PM
Feb 2021

on CBC TV's nightly news. She died of chronic leukaemia and passed about 20 years ago. His dad was a dentist turned real estate developer. He remarried a long-time friend (my neighbour) and died about 6 or 7 years ago. His twin sister Linda is a Canadian Senator (conservative).

Our Conservatives tend to be moderates (although a few members espouse rightwing stuff like abortion and others consider themselves fiscal conservatives),and our Liberals are also moderates with a slight tendency towards the left. I think I prefer the relative boredom induced by our two main political parties

PatSeg

(47,393 posts)
11. Yes, a lot of us here could use that kind of boredom!
Mon Feb 8, 2021, 09:49 AM
Feb 2021

Most of our republican politicians today really aren't conservatives anymore. They tend to be opportunistic politicians who will do and say whatever will win votes or they are radical, extremists. My parents were republicans and their party didn't resemble in any way what we see today. Like your conservatives, they were more moderate than their opponents. Of course, there were extremists like the John Birchers, but they were few in numbers and regarded as a joke.

It really started going downhill with Nixon and has only gotten worse over the years.

bucolic_frolic

(43,124 posts)
5. It was a curious campaign, skewed by COVID
Sun Feb 7, 2021, 05:59 PM
Feb 2021

The two camps didn't actually engage that much. Biden had the luxury of an intense understanding of the opposition which was destroying itself. Biden could almost be said to have played a rope-a-dope strategy, so when he needed to engage, the debates, he hit hard. Trump defined himself, and then Biden confirmed it. Trump's attempts to define Biden were ridiculous. Antifa was a disconnect, "Sleepy Joe" was a fail, Ukraine Fake Dirt was well known by the summer. The first Democratic debate, where Trump camp dreamed up "Sleepy Joe" was a sleeper strategy, I still think Biden underplayed his hand to seek better opportunity going forward.

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