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I am finding that I am not really ready emotionally for this. I had it forced on me when the grant program I was on ended but I find that having a year working from home was not nearly as bad as not working and being stuck at home. I can't volunteer like I had planned, I can't visit family like I had planned. I am reading a lot, and going for long walks with the dog, but today it is really cold and freezing rain so it just hit me.
Husband is younger and still working, it is almost depressing to see him off to work in the morning. Sorry just needed to vent, I am blessed and I know it, I have a roof over my head and food in the pantry. I have a husband who loves me. I just need to stop this pity party.
Thanks for letting me vent....
janterry
(4,429 posts)and change during a pandemic.....harder, still.
I'm not retired; I'm sure others will weigh in about the future (and creating future goals/plans).
But you'll find your way, in time
redstatebluegirl
(12,265 posts)I think having constant student contact is what I miss the most. Even during the pandemic I had zoom meetings with graduate students to keep me going. It is hard to go cold turkey. I had a period of unemployment a few years ago, but this is really different. It is odd how we define ourselves by what we do for a living isn't it?
DownriverDem
(6,228 posts)As soon as things get better, I will ddo volunteer like I had planned to do too. I am still involved in the Democratic Party (State and Federal) but it is zoom meetings.
redstatebluegirl
(12,265 posts)Lulu KC
(2,565 posts)The identity piece and and the value of the work we did--oh, I could go on. It took me months to figure out that it was more difficult for me, who was driven by the mission and meaning of my work, to adapt than it did my husband. He had a job that was really just a job to him. He was relaxed and ecstatic while I was just disoriented. There was nothing wrong, but nothing felt right.
I raise a toast to you as you go through this process. As the saying goes, "It's a journey!" It takes time.
marble falls
(57,080 posts)lindysalsagal
(20,680 posts)Meetup is free and you list your hobbies and next thing you know, there's an event every day. My boyfriend who is still working complains that I'm always busy. Having a blast. Right now, everything is on zoom. I attend meetups in australia. This is the best time to be retired: Everyone is in zoom and you can meet anyone from anywhere.
Squinch
(50,949 posts)cilla4progress
(24,728 posts)I am starting to get lonely for pure social interactions. My friend group interactions have really chilled out and off for now!
Anyone else experiencing this?
In fact, it's part of why I come here - social interaction with like-minded folks!
Maybe in the Spring, and when more of us are vaccinated, in-person interactions will ramp back up where I am.
captain queeg
(10,188 posts)I retired two years ago. Felt kind of guilty about it for awhile but not any more. The biggest problem is the pandemic keeping me from doing stuff that I want to, like travel. Having a working spouse would add a wrinkle, but enjoy your freedom. Make some plans for where youll go in 6 months or a year.
radical noodle
(8,000 posts)while others seem to love retirement. I'm sorry it's hitting you negatively.
Have you considered doing things that are fairly easily done from home? Perhaps work on a family tree, learn a new craft, or take a couple of online classes.
I retired 8 years ago after working 42 years and haven't regretted it for a moment. I hope you can find a way to make this a positive for you.
Sanity Claws
(21,847 posts)Vent away. Get the emotions out.
Can you readjust your plans? You can't volunteer and do other things that you planned but can you take up a new hobby like painting or learn a new language or maybe get into better physical condition?
redstatebluegirl
(12,265 posts)I am hoping that helps me get through all of this. I get my second moderna vaccination on Wednesday, that will make me feel safer for sure. I am walking quite a bit, as much as my back issues will allow. I have had one fusion and am staring down a second one.
Great ideas though, thanks for that!
secondwind
(16,903 posts)chapter of your life.
I retired at 50, have never regretted it, weve traveled the world over, etc.
redstatebluegirl
(12,265 posts)The travel will come after that for us, but yes, I am looking forward to that part once the pandemic is over. I had planned a lot of trips and things prior to the pandemic.
Squinch
(50,949 posts)to eventually find a volunteer gig or part time job to keep myself useful, but I'm finding myself very open to allowing a new life to come to me without too much worry about controlling it right now.
This month, my only job for myself is to establish good exercise habits. So far, so good. I'm also working on purging my home of the stuff I have accumulated over the years that I don't need any more. I think that helps the mind accept change.
Hang in there and keep thinking about what you want your life to look like. For the first time in our lives, we get to design exactly that.
redstatebluegirl
(12,265 posts)Squinch
(50,949 posts)lindysalsagal
(20,680 posts)Miguelito Loveless
(4,465 posts)and has us pondering our future, our past, and what we are going to do this afternoon. It can create depression, depression creates inertia. Keep moving. A walk in your neighborhood, if you can manage it, or simply sit outside on a chair and listen to an audio book/podcast/music, or read.
Vent any time.
betsuni
(25,486 posts)I was worried he wouldn't deal with it well because he likes to keep busy, but it's surprisingly fine. We have a leisurely breakfast and he reads the whole newspaper, even reads books, which he never had time for before. Takes long walks. Watches news programs on TV. I never thought he could relax like this. The day goes so quickly. I do miss my privacy, though. There's always a witness around now!
He's been forgetting things. What day it is, because now every day is like Sunday. Started talking to himself. Stopped dying his gray hair. Seems like all of a sudden he has health problems: bad knee, toothache, arthritis-like pains. Makes him feel old. Old retired person. But he'll soon find something else to do, I'm sure.
ProfessorGAC
(65,010 posts)...I had a thought similar to your "Every day is a Sunday" thing.
I realized there are no weekends anymore! But, in a good way.
In the non-golf weather I substitute teach. I like it.
Now, retired teachers might hate that idea, but for folks who believe in good education & never did it before, it's a great way to spend time in a valuable & useful way.
Think that might interest your husband? Schools always need subs.
Freddie
(9,265 posts)And even good changes can impact you in a bad way. My Mom was an elementary school teacher and went into a deep depression when she retired; no reason to get up in the morning and no one needed her. Took her years and meds to pull out of it.
Im retired 2 years now and watch my little granddaughter all day. Shes an angel (most of the time) but I miss the mental challenge of my job. The other things that kept me busy - church and the community band - are no longer available. Church is online and not the same as being there and participating. Band is on indefinite hiatus until most of us are vaccinated and its safe to rehearse in our crowded building. Being here on DU is a good outlet for feeling useful and part of the world.
redstatebluegirl
(12,265 posts)I feel so grateful for all of it, even the crazy parts .
DFW
(54,370 posts)I will be 69 this year, and I see retirement as something to contemplate maybe ten years from now.
There are a lot of things I am restricted from doing, as are you, but I just can't see chucking my work yet. I can't do my work from home for the most part, and my work travel, usually 20 days a month, has been severely curtailed. To my surprise, it is not driving me crazy, but I miss it all the same.
My brother, who just turned 67, is retiring next month, and I think he's looking forward to it. But he's in a different world from me. He was working in a world of shadows and top secret high tech, and security clearances for this and that. When he retires, they will take away his phone and his security clearance, and make it impossible (forbidden, even!) for his workplace to call him to consult over some secret whatever-it-is that they think he could help them with. For him it's a clean and total break.
For me, it has been said that retirement comes when the last nail has been hammered into the coffin. I already miss being in a different country every day, and think that I could get back into it easily. Too much of my dad in me, I guess. His idea of retirement was going into Washington 4 days a week instead of 5.
RussBLib
(9,008 posts)Something that you might have wanted to do, and now you have more time. Don't rush into too many hobbies at once though. You can get overwhelmed.
A few months before Covid hit, in 2019, we moved an old family piano into our house from my sister's house. I thought it would be fun to play around with it. Since Covid hit, i started taking piano lessons and have thoroughly enjoyed it.
Take your time.
phylny
(8,380 posts)My husband and I retired in 2019 and we love it. This year, due to the pandemic, I've been learning to "knit" (I put that in quotes because I'm learning, I'm not that good at it!), I've been cross stitching more, I'm practicing my Spanish, and I'm going to learn to crochet (might go better than the "knitting."
lark
(23,097 posts)It hit me pretty hard the first year I retired, and that was before Covid & we did travel some. What hit me most was the loss of income, it was so weird going from having a good income to making a ton less. I have reconnected in a strong way with a couple of old friends and we spend at least 1-2 hours a week talking and that helps. I've also found some things I enjoy, like puzzles and coloring books, and hubby enjoys them too, so we have some new passtimes until we can both get fully vaccinated, and he's only 60 so it will take some time for that. In the meantime, I'm getting a list of places to go once it's safe and that research takes a lot of time as well.
You will probably be fine, it really is a big adjustment. Just be kind to yourself and explore options, there really are a lot of them.
llashram
(6,265 posts)bluecollar2
(3,622 posts)I hate being retired at times too. Miss work, friends etc. But it passes.
hamsterjill
(15,220 posts)Its been one HELL of a year for all of us. Ive been unemployed for all of this time and I stay busy, but the stress is about to get me.
Serious question for you - are there volunteer tutoring opportunities in your community via zoom? I live in Texas and so help me I heard about something like this down here. Kind of like helping kids who havent adjusted to remote learning well.
redstatebluegirl
(12,265 posts)I would love to tutor! I am so sorry you have been out of work, it sucks, it happened to me a few years ago and we had just recovered from that.
N_E_1 for Tennis
(9,721 posts)I didnt want to retire, it was forced upon me by health reasons.
I had it made in the shade. Everything I worked for while younger came to fruition I was my own boss in a carpet and upholstery business my wife and I started. Plenty of repeat customers so much so a number of them became good friends. It was fun going to work.
Standing on the deck one beautiful morning before work, Mrs. N_E_1 said why are you talking like a baby? I turned to her and she immediately sat me down, I was having a stroke. It was a T.I.A. (transient ischemic attack) no permanent damage done. But doctors...heart was in a-fib most of the time, they found out I had a few heart attacks. So that was what that was. No work that day.
I did not dream that would be my last day of work. I got so angry, I wanted to go out on my own.
I had a buyer lined up to purchase the biz. We were going to work together for two or three years so I could introduce him to all my customers. Plans put on hold...then with more doctors appointments and a quadruple bypass I never went back to work.
It took a while but I got over it and started enjoying retirement. Work is highly overrated. I had time to enjoy life doing the things I never had time for while working. I had no idea I was interested in so many things. I was defined and limited by my work.
Enjoy! Enjoy! Enjoy! Retirement is when life begins.
HeartachesNhangovers
(814 posts)A lot of people think retirement is self-explanatory: Just stop going to work and do what you want instead - like a permanent weekend. For some people - who already have time-consuming hobbies and don't mind spending a lot more time by themselves - it is that simple. But if the social aspect of work was important to you (whether you knew it or not), or if you needed that structure in your life (whether you knew it or not), then retirement has to be planned out carefully. Almost nobody is going to be happy with a retirement that consists of sleeping late and killing time.
Consider your new job to be planning your retirement. Make a list of things to do - not just overdue chores, but things you actually want to do, or at least want to try. Revise it often as you eliminate things or decide you don't want to pursue them. Eventually, you'll settle into a new pattern of activity that is hopefully more rewarding than work was.
redstatebluegirl
(12,265 posts)Escurumbele
(3,389 posts)I am not saying it is easy, but it is very rewarding. The toughest part is to figure out what it is that you want to do next, but it will come, it always does, just keep your mind open and dedicate some time to find out.
It always helps to write things down, like what you like and what you don't like, etc.
Good luck, you took the hardest first step, which is acknowledging the feelings you have right now.
PoindexterOglethorpe
(25,853 posts)Why spend all day doing things you have to do rather than the things you'd like to do?
I never had a job that I liked better than not working, so leaving work was easy for me. My financial situation is comfortable, and I'm looking forward to resuming travel when all this is finally over. Which is going to take a lot longer than people yet understand.
redstatebluegirl
(12,265 posts)I left business over 30 years ago to work with students for much less money. I have loved it ever since, it never felt like going to work.
PoindexterOglethorpe
(25,853 posts)I have never had a job I loved.
Initech
(100,068 posts)And saying this has been "hell" has been probably the understatement of the century! We are very badly wanting normal life to resume, and we hope when it does things will be much easier.
AirmensMom
(14,642 posts)Make no apologies. Give yourself time to grieve. It's no small thing.
I had to retire years ago because of a health problem. It's still depressing that I don't pull in a salary anymore, and Social Security is just a drop in the bucket. Still, it has been a great opportunity to keep my hobbies going. And my fur babies couldn't be more spoiled. I'm available all day, every day, as long as they don't mind "helping" with the chores.
Acknowledging your feelings via venting isn't a bad thing at all in my book.
Hela
(440 posts)I just turned 60, and I'm already trying to figure out how to retire! I have so many projects and hobbies that I never seem to have enough time for. And I'd love to have a little graphic design business on Etsy, mostly for the mental challenge and creativity, and less for any income.
You might be able to find some volunteer work you can do from home. There are phone-a-friend and letter-writing programs to uplift other seniors, postcard writing campaigns for Democratic candidates, crafting circles for everything from toys and beds for pets to blankets/hats for babies to lap quilts for seniors. Many of these kinds of volunteer activities also have Zoom parties where you can talk with others and work separately-but-together on your common projects & interests.
It's easy to get depressed when you don't feel like you have a purpose or a reason to get up each day. It's so hard to plan ahead or even see the future when you're just trying to survive to the end of the day. There are a lot of books out there about finding your second act or your purpose. I know you're just venting today, but I hope you can recapture some joy. With Biden and the Dems in power, I feel hope again!
TNNurse
(6,926 posts)In a more functional world (normal no longer applies, but functional its better), it takes some changes in how you plan.
However, my husband and I were both hospital nurses and retirement is something or which we are both grateful. We worry about all healthcare workers now, those we knew and those we did not. We are 71 and the thought of the physical stress they now work under is something we never had to endure. We both worked critical care and know that what they see now is far beyond anything we saw.
Vent away, try to find some way to get outside (unless you are snowed in).
And please know that even in retirement and quarantine, many of us have not been all that productive. We have done some projects but could have done more...we just haven't.
redstatebluegirl
(12,265 posts)nolabear
(41,960 posts)I say that as one who went back for my MFA a year and a half ago. Low residency so most of the work independent with an advisor. Yes, I HATE that the residencies are virtual now but my butt has been kicked in some very good ways by having a goal and an investment. Makes me crazy sometimes but hey, what doesnt these days?
Whatever you decide, remember this is a process. Youll figure it out. 😍
pazzyanne
(6,551 posts)I retired at 72, bought a home on 2 acres and settled in for retirement. 6 months later I applied for part time work (3 days a week including some weekends) working 20 t0 30 hours a week and still had time to garden, and other things. Doing this during a pandemic would have definitely limited my options, as it does yours. Maybe work on hobbies, or develop new hobbies, some of which could also provide additional income? Reading is good, and walks with your dog are awesome. Congratulate yourself on what you are doing right.
calimary
(81,238 posts)Youll have more time to work on saving your country! Doing what you do HERE, for one thing. Coming up with ideas to share and promote and extend Bidens American Rescue Plan!
Maybe look into a local Democratic group and join them on Zoom and theyll probably have ideas, too! You now have more time to add muscle to their efforts! Id be delighted to add the strength and motivation someone like you could bring to a group like that! The groups I discovered since we moved have certainly done that for me! I bet theres many an outlet that would benefit from your participation and energy!
You are needed! And I bet theyd be delighted to have you join in!
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FakeNoose
(32,634 posts)... so I can't blame it on the pandemic. It's just my age, and my smallish company was worried about down-sizing, so I decided to do it.
Financially it has been chancy but not impossible. Socially is a different story: retirement has really changed my life and my outlook. Now with the pandemic, I'm majorly housebound like I had never anticipated when I was still working.
My solution was to get a dog, or actually one was given to me by my son and daughter-in-law. Having a dog is so rewarding with his affection and playfulness. My doggy keeps me constantly entertained and gives me a reason to get up every morning. You might want to consider getting a pet, just for the fun of it.
1plus1equals1
(205 posts)And then the world changed. Retirement is about finding out who you truly are. I will say that reading, art and music is what keeps me going; I too am restricted from doing what I really want. Learn an instrument (you can do this by dedicating a few minutes a day) and write a song; it will change your world. Write a song for someone else and change their world too. Same thing goes for art. Give yourself time to adjust; I'm two years in and still adjusting. Oh, buy more lounge clothes; life is too short to wear uncomfortable clothes. Best wishes.
groundloop
(11,518 posts)I can understand being leery of retirement if you have/had a job you like, I did for over 15 years and most days I actually looked forward to getting to work in the morning. That all ended 5 years ago after the company was bought out by a large foreign corporation who decided the best way to increase their profits was to lay off people.
After that I wound up at a manufacturing plant and hated it. They'd been cutting corners on maintenance for many many years, so equipment was repeatedly breaking down. I was constantly getting called in on nights and weekends, even when the maintenance people could perfectly well handle problems without my help. I'd been looking for another job, but didn't realistically expect to find anything because nobody hires engineers in their late 50s or 60s.
A year ago I was laid off just prior to the plant being closed (and jobs shipped to Mexico). I was apprehensive at first, afraid that my 401K wouldn't hold up. My wife was frantic. Since then I've learned a few things. It's possible to be frugal and still live nicely after eliminating a lot of unnecessary expenses.
I've gotten my 401K rearranged and balanced and am now fairly confident that it (in combination with social security) will support us through retirement (I suppose in that regard I'm quite fortunate compared to far too many others).
And, I'm one of those people with several hobbies and activities that keep me occupied and I'm absolutely loving it. In addition to my 'stuff', the grandkids have figured out that they can bring things to me that are in need of repair and I'll take care of it. (I also have plenty of time now to call my right wing Congress Critters and let them know what idiots they are )
BobTheSubgenius
(11,563 posts)And you clearly know what you have to be grateful for, at least intellectually, so there's that. The emotional part will come, and a lessening of COVID worries will be a big part of that recovery. For everyone.
And, hey...if you can't "vent" here (and it seemed more...I don't know "mellow"? than that) where can you? No one is going to think less of you, and the vast majority will be very supportive. This is a fabulous community, after all.
Vent on, lady!
dameatball
(7,397 posts)the constant questions about what I was going to do with my life. I just knew that it was important to me to HAVE one. So try not to beat yourself up because you haven't got your life planned out yet. Sometimes what is really important has to be given time to get lined up and report for duty. Meanwhile, take care of your health and enjoy things on the smorgasboard. Life will come to you.
By the way, I am fine now. Had surgery and regular follow ups. All good so far. Those little doubts and nagging voices still creep in now and then, especially in the wee hours. But I am glad to be around to deal with them. Best wishes to you. Enjoy!
redstatebluegirl
(12,265 posts)I think I have always lived my life with my day planned. I need to let go of that idea and relax!
cilla4progress
(24,728 posts)My husband was lucky to retire last March - when this whole pandemic nightmare started.
I began working from home, which I continue to do.
While I am going to give up one of my 3 major gigs at the end of this year, no way am I ready to fully retire.
Once thing I've been trying to do - unsuccessfully so far, but an idea? for you: tutor kids online.
That is, do one-on-one tutoring for kids, even though it's online. I found when I helped in my daughter's school that the individual attention was very beneficial for kids. Maybe your school district or somewhere has this volunteer opportunity!
I can really relate to your situation. Stay strong and will hold you in my heart!
redstatebluegirl
(12,265 posts)cilla4progress
(24,728 posts)upthread as well!
Will you let us know if you find something? As I say, I've not been able to!
I even replied to AOC when she posted something about it .. even though she's on the other side of the country!
redstatebluegirl
(12,265 posts)I also called OKC to see if some of the poor areas could use my help.
redstatebluegirl
(12,265 posts)I just got a call from a district in our area responding to the form I filled out on line to tutor. They said they would love to put my name on the list for online Math tutors! Yipee! Thanks to those of you who suggested that idea!
Joinfortmill
(14,417 posts)Or WFH project jobs. Good luck.
seta1950
(932 posts)The same thing happened to me, forced retirement but I feel lucky that I didnt get sick, because I worked in retail and let me tell you , people are very careless. Keep your spirits up it will get better.
marlakay
(11,457 posts)Before the pandemic we had moved here 2 yrs before and I was just getting to know people, taking senior classes, etc.
Then covid hit and like you feeling stuck at home, the travel and meeting people stopped and the one new friend left for her kids out of state.
I do have my husband at home but it took awhile for us to give each other space and not take our restlessness out on each other. We changed a few rooms, turned our guest room (who's coming?) into a man cave and I have my own room I decorated for yoga, office stuff. Both rooms before we decorated for both of us as the whole house is. But during this I thought we each needed our own space.
It has worked really well. We do dog walks together and drives but if we need time alone we have our room. Before the guest room was always set up with nice pictures and flowered bedspread, now it has his motorcycle pics, lamp, rock band pic and blue plaid comforter.
The other thing I do is I accomplish one thing every day even if its just laundry or getting valentines ready to mail to my girls. Feel better end of day. I signed up to do my senior classes on zoom and currently doing two bookclubs by zoom.
Joe Nation
(962 posts)Many people struggle with the loss of their work identity. Remember, you aren't the job you were doing for X number of years, you are everything that made you good at what you did apart from the job itself.
My wife and I are both retiring the same day this spring. We plan to sell the house, get rid of everything the kids don't want and give away the rest and move back out west. We are tired of "things". We want to live more simply. Owning things like houses, and cars, and a million other things is just an anchor that ties you down. We are retiring at the age of 60/62. We have plenty of income to live on. We know that we are fortunate and just want to give back in whatever cause(s) cross our path.
My kids are all pretty much self-sufficient. We are truly the luckiest retirees and life is good. Anybody want to buy a house?
Yeehah
(4,587 posts)I'm 62 and I think this is the greatest time of my life.
No bullshit job.
No asshole bosses.
Just hangin' around the cabin with my dog and walking in the forest.
lindysalsagal
(20,680 posts)mindlessly following completely inane, useless processes. No more going along with meaningless, ineffective crap. I could make real things happen at work and I loved that, but I was surrounded by a cavalcade of group delusion.
Now, up is really up, in is really in, off is really off. It's so simple!!!I don't bother with anything false or contradictory. now, when someone insists I pretend that their false reality is a common reality, I just say no and walk away.
So simple.
brooklynite
(94,520 posts)...after that I retire unless I'm offering a truly engaging assignment. I can find something interesting to do with a non-profit or my own political projects.
PatrickforO
(14,572 posts)feeling gratitude. But I hear your frustration with being stuck at home. I absolutely love telework - I am an economist, and often present, now virtually, to a many different groups. It is a miracle to me that I can address a statewide conference from the comfort of my own home office - Here's my gratitude coming through - I am disabled so travel is very hard for, and on, me. I don't travel well at all. This working from home has literally given me a new lease on life!
This community is very good, too. I like DU a lot, and there are quite a few people on here who have influence at the policy level, some nationally, and we do have some media people on here, I think. Plus we have those valentines we can give people
I don't know what I can really say to make you feel better except that all of us are here, and I have enjoyed a number of your posts. I suspect you have quite a number of online friends here.
redstatebluegirl
(12,265 posts)I realize this is a temporary feeling. I am hopeful that one of the schools I contacted today will call me to online tutor. Having even that little bit of break in my day would be great.
Politicub
(12,165 posts)Im almost 50, and havent worked for more than two years. I had always worked in corporate communications, and my anxiety finally got the best of me. I lost my job (felt like I was isolated and bullied), and then tried freelancing.
The freelancing was good for two years when I landed a full-time client. But in reality, I was an employee without benefits. I was so grateful, and continue to be thankful, for the ACA.
When my gig ended, I had a hard time finding another one because it created crippling anxiety to market myself as the product. I had the realization that gig working would be akin to job-hunting over and over again. Then the emotional breakdown happened.
I took a year after that for therapy and a break. Maybe three years ago? It was hard on my husband and is still hard on our finances. He has a debilitating physical disability and collects social security.
I decided to try to get another corporate more than a year ago. It was overwhelming to read job descriptions and everything that employers expect of you, but I still applied, reached out to my network, etc. I wasnt getting anywhere.
Then COVID hit, and my husband and I decided to hunker down as much as we could, so I put the job search on hold.
Since the breakdown, small things can send me down a spiral of anxiety and depression. Today its thinking about our gutters and trees that need addressing, and how expensive that will be. Then Ill start thinking of all of the bad decisions I have made and how badly I bungled a good career. I worked on this impulse in therapy, and have techniques to deal with it, but it doesnt stop the feelings from coming on. Writing down thoughts and online pity parties help.
I tell myself Ill hit the ground hard to look for a job after vaccination. And I will.
Like you, I feel fortunate to have a roof over my head and a husband who loves me. I feel guilty about it, too, since people have it a lot worse than me. Guilt about it is so useless, though. It doesnt help me or anyone else. I hate anxiety and depression.
The stimulus is a big deal for us. We can use it to take care of some of the deferred maintenance on the house.
Thank you for throwing the pity party.
redstatebluegirl
(12,265 posts)Pershing's Crusaders The American Soldier in WW I. I saw the author on CSPAN a few days ago talking about the red scare. I hope his book is as interesting as his lecture style!
DBoon
(22,363 posts)1. Postcards for Democrats. Hand write postcards to voters to encourage them to vote for our candidates. https://www.flipthewest.com/postcardathome
2. Citizen Science. View observations online and document what you see. Does not require a science background. https://www.zooniverse.org/
redstatebluegirl
(12,265 posts)for middle school next week! I am so excited! All online so safe. I asked to work with kids who could not afford to pay for tutoring. My mood is so much better!
Thanks DU family!