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What the hell is going on? And why Haiti?
https://www.thedailybeast.com/ice-ignores-biden-order-and-deports-22-children-and-babies-to-haiti-says-report?ref=home
ICE Ignores Biden Order and Deports 22 Children and Babies to Haiti, Says Report
GONE ROGUE
Jamie Ross
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Published Feb. 09, 2021 6:53AM ET
lagomorph777
(30,613 posts)Vogon_Glory
(9,117 posts)If the people who gave the order like warm weather and big city lights, transfer them to some rural clime with sub-zero winter temperatures.
I understand that northern North Dakota is anything but tropical right now. Let them busy themselves coping with snow drifts and glaring at Canadians straying too close to the dividing-line.
Phoenix61
(16,999 posts)Transfer top level leadership at every location to new offices.... in the absolute middle of nowhere. Slow walk getting everything needed to have an actual functioning office and I mean everything from internet service to toilet paper. The military is gifted at quarantining problem people Im sure there are some vets who would be happy to help handle the situation.
abqtommy
(14,118 posts)ananda
(28,856 posts)!!!
bdamomma
(63,822 posts)embedded in the department all must be fired. This is not right at all.
Haiti is going through turmoil too, this is not right at all.
Hugin
(33,112 posts)Getting rid of the witnesses.
SallyHemmings
(1,821 posts)It is clear these employees are not concerned about possible consequences.
uponit7771
(90,329 posts)JI7
(89,244 posts)Happy Hoosier
(7,277 posts)Union protections or not, the President has a clear Article II authority here.
Mr. Ected
(9,670 posts)AKA the debris Trump left behind.
It'll take a few months (at least) to excise this cancer from our government. Give Joe a scalpel and let's get it on.
Turin_C3PO
(13,951 posts)Can Biden do it unilaterally?
bigtree
(85,984 posts)...
babylonsister
(171,050 posts)babylonsister
(171,050 posts)Kaleva
(36,291 posts)bigtree
(85,984 posts)..that's still at the discretion of the agency.
The court doesn't have some separate means deport to anyone, no budget for that, no real authority or ability to actually put anyone on a plane. That responsibility lies with the government agency, which ultimately answers to the president.
The Director of ICE is appointed at the sub-cabinet level by the President of the United States, confirmed by the U.S. Senate, and reports directly to the Secretary of Homeland Security.
Kaleva
(36,291 posts)It happened to Trump many times and we cheered.
An example:
"Court blocks Trump executive order allowing state and local officials to refuse refugees"
https://religionnews.com/2021/01/08/court-blocks-trump-executive-order-allowing-state-and-local-officials-to-refuse-refugees/
"Court Denies DOJ Request For Stay; Trump Immigration Order Remains Suspended"
https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2017/02/04/513415447/airlines-again-board-travelers-barred-by-travel-order-as-trump-vows-to-fight
bigtree
(85,984 posts)...it's one thing to halt a deportation, or stop people from entering the U.S., it's quite another to order an agency of the president to put someone on a plane in contradiction to the wishes of the WH.
Think about the constitutional implications, not to mention the logistics.
Kaleva
(36,291 posts)DeminPennswoods
(15,273 posts)even with the many protections career civil servants have.
Vinca
(50,255 posts)Beaverhausen
(24,470 posts)Just the other night was the scene where an ICE officer denied the american wife of the canadian woman travel to Canada due to their marriage license no longer being valid.
Watching this series now is freaking me out.