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Biden support among 18-29 year olds... (Original Post) cilla4progress Feb 2021 OP
Kids are smart these days! bif Feb 2021 #1
Yes they are! Sad to say I thought they were in my day as well, but then look what happened KPN Feb 2021 #22
Are they smart enough to vote Dem in 2022 and 2024? AllTooEasy Feb 2021 #25
Yes! KPN Feb 2021 #32
I hope that you are right AllTooEasy Feb 2021 #57
Me too! ... And back at ya. KPN Feb 2021 #59
Most seniors vote Republican Mariana Feb 2021 #56
Yay!!! Karadeniz Feb 2021 #2
I sure hope they keep voting going forward... Wounded Bear Feb 2021 #3
Yay! North Shore Chicago Feb 2021 #4
I like this one! Young Americans care about the future! Baked Potato Feb 2021 #5
And the children shall lead (nt) mr_lebowski Feb 2021 #7
I see what you did! Baked Potato Feb 2021 #13
In retrospect, it's probably not the best reference ... mr_lebowski Feb 2021 #16
Lol! I get that! KPN Feb 2021 #33
I'd been thinking of 'Miri' when I said it ... mr_lebowski Feb 2021 #37
If they want ANY kind of gun control they have to be supportive of the Democratic Party MagickMuffin Feb 2021 #6
Imagine how high that'll go if we're able to pass student debt relief. bearsfootball516 Feb 2021 #8
They thought Biden was an old-time moderate-- out of touch with young Americans... idziak4ever1234 Feb 2021 #9
Wow,that is amazing. Wellstone ruled Feb 2021 #10
One of my kids voted for the first time this election gollygee Feb 2021 #11
Mine are anti repub but as long as they vote Democratic I am ok with that questionseverything Feb 2021 #51
My kid did too Blue_playwright Feb 2021 #55
Yasssss! soothsayer Feb 2021 #12
It will be even higher if he does something about student loans. Nt helpisontheway Feb 2021 #14
that subject is going to be a shitshow of a fight (George 'fuckstick' Will's already dropping bombs) Celerity Feb 2021 #53
Great news! NCDem47 Feb 2021 #15
From what I remember Turin_C3PO Feb 2021 #17
Or just get bitter about keeping their lips just above water while Wall Street and politicians KPN Feb 2021 #34
I will admit, I initially preferred someone younger (Kamala) - cilla4progress Feb 2021 #18
Aside from the in love part, ditto and I agree 110%. nt KPN Feb 2021 #35
Irony sure can be ironic. dchill Feb 2021 #19
That's kind of ironic! KPN Feb 2021 #36
I hope he's smart enough to know why and to remember lunatica Feb 2021 #20
But will they vote in 2022? Indyfan53 Feb 2021 #21
Malarkey! Kitchari Feb 2021 #23
We need a Stacey Abrams in every county. BlueLucy Feb 2021 #26
+++ KPN Feb 2021 #30
I don't know. I think they have learned that elections have consequences. They've been the KPN Feb 2021 #28
They don't want anyone DoBotherMe Feb 2021 #29
Inspire and encourage them to vote IronLionZion Feb 2021 #42
Yay! Young people are the foundation of my optimism for our future. KPN Feb 2021 #24
I agree - the young people give me hope Kitchari Feb 2021 #45
Both my daughters have surprised me with their enthusiasm for Biden Maru Kitteh Feb 2021 #27
The Other 30% Have Stockholm Syndrome And Are Held Captive By Fundie Jerk Wads DanieRains Feb 2021 #31
Nice! iluvtennis Feb 2021 #38
And it will stay that way as long as Biden is able to deliver on his promises w/o obstruction Fiendish Thingy Feb 2021 #39
Seditionists consolidated a renewed understanding of how our votes as citizens equal our voice peggysue2 Feb 2021 #40
Kids these days IronLionZion Feb 2021 #41
I would love to see some student debt relief Olafjoy Feb 2021 #43
That's the future! calimary Feb 2021 #44
Well I'm pleasently shocked. marble falls Feb 2021 #46
the future is blue, ppl. mopinko Feb 2021 #47
Fantastic! That gives me hope for our country's future. BigmanPigman Feb 2021 #48
That is one impressive statistic! BobTheSubgenius Feb 2021 #49
I have faith in the younger generation. blueinredohio Feb 2021 #50
Rt TY & Bookmarked!! Cha Feb 2021 #52
I don't doubt this one bit. All my daughter's friends hate trump. Vivienne235729 Feb 2021 #54
That's excellent news! Nitram Feb 2021 #58
K & R & Retweeted! SunSeeker Feb 2021 #60
You Go Joe! augyboston Feb 2021 #61
That is so impressive PatSeg Feb 2021 #62
K&R NoRoadUntravelled Feb 2021 #63

KPN

(15,650 posts)
22. Yes they are! Sad to say I thought they were in my day as well, but then look what happened
Wed Feb 10, 2021, 01:47 PM
Feb 2021

over the next 4 decades. I'm thinking the situation is a lot different today vs Vietnam era and these kids will stay true to their ideals at a greater rate than the boomers of that era.

AllTooEasy

(1,261 posts)
25. Are they smart enough to vote Dem in 2022 and 2024?
Wed Feb 10, 2021, 01:53 PM
Feb 2021

That age demographic routinely doesn't vote in midterms, even worse in presidential elections.

What about seniors? We need them!

KPN

(15,650 posts)
32. Yes!
Wed Feb 10, 2021, 02:08 PM
Feb 2021

They've learned that elections have consequences.

They've been targets for way too many mass shootings, they're struggling financially as a whole, close relations with people who are increasingly openly oppressed (POC, immigrants, LGBTQs) are normal for them, they saw the harm inflicted under Trump and GOP control, they see the GOPs global warming denial and corporations and understand that human existence is at risk.

I think enough of them get the importance of their vote. We just need to stay engaged with, listen to and show results on what's important to them. That part's on us.

Mariana

(14,861 posts)
56. Most seniors vote Republican
Wed Feb 10, 2021, 10:43 PM
Feb 2021

If we can get enough of them to stop doing that, we won't need the young people to come out and vote in abnormally large numbers.

 

mr_lebowski

(33,643 posts)
37. I'd been thinking of 'Miri' when I said it ...
Wed Feb 10, 2021, 02:34 PM
Feb 2021

Then later I remembered what 3rd Season (dog of an) episode it actually was

MagickMuffin

(15,953 posts)
6. If they want ANY kind of gun control they have to be supportive of the Democratic Party
Wed Feb 10, 2021, 12:57 PM
Feb 2021


They KNOW who's side of history to be on!

idziak4ever1234

(1,257 posts)
9. They thought Biden was an old-time moderate-- out of touch with young Americans...
Wed Feb 10, 2021, 12:59 PM
Feb 2021

those who have watched him for a long time knew he had a liberal streak.

gollygee

(22,336 posts)
11. One of my kids voted for the first time this election
Wed Feb 10, 2021, 01:02 PM
Feb 2021

It does seem like kids are very pro-Biden. Or maybe anti-Republican, or I guess both.

Blue_playwright

(1,568 posts)
55. My kid did too
Wed Feb 10, 2021, 10:16 PM
Feb 2021

She preferred Elizabeth Warren and Bernie but was all in on Biden.

She is pleasantly surprised how liberal he really is. I knew he was left of Obama and remembered him from the senate when I was a kid. I’ve refrained from saying I told you so.

Celerity

(43,531 posts)
53. that subject is going to be a shitshow of a fight (George 'fuckstick' Will's already dropping bombs)
Wed Feb 10, 2021, 10:04 PM
Feb 2021
Student loan forgiveness is a Schumer-Warren gift to the well-off

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/student-loan-forgiveness-is-a-schumer-warren-gift-to-the-well-off/2021/02/09/75877a64-6b08-11eb-9f80-3d7646ce1bc0_story.html

One drama of Joe Biden’s infant presidency was foreshadowed 13 months ago in Iowa when a rival for the Democratic presidential nomination, Sen. Elizabeth Warren of Massachusetts, answered a question. Her “a program for every problem” repertoire included as much as $50,000 of forgiveness for indebted students or former students from households making less than $100,000, declining to zero for $250,000 households. An Iowan said to her:

“My daughter is getting out of school. I’ve saved all my money [so that] she doesn’t have any student loans. Am I going to get my money back?”

Warren: “Of course not.”

Iowan: “So you’re going to pay for people who didn’t save any money, and those of us who did the right thing get screwed?”

Of course: Activist government usually serves those who know how to activate it — relatively affluent and articulate complainers. Last November, Adam Looney wrote in The Post that, “About 56 percent of student debt is owed by those with masters or professional degrees, and almost 35 percent of loan balances are owed by individuals in the top 20 percent of income distribution.” The five degrees responsible for most debt are: medical and law, bachelor’s and master’s in business, and bachelor of science for nursing. The typical college graduate with debt ($28,500) can retire it in 20 years with $181 monthly payments.

Senate Majority Leader Charles E. Schumer (D-N.Y.) wants Biden to accomplish Warren’s project “with a flick of a pen.” Schumer wants the legislative branch to be irrelevant to one of the largest transfers of wealth — more than $1 trillion — in U.S. history, a sum equal, according to Looney, to “the total amount spent on cash welfare since 1980.” Progressives say the 1965 Higher Education Law, which authorizes the education secretary (there wasn’t one until 1979) to “compromise” federal student loans (there were none until 1958, and few in 1965), empowers an executive branch official to dispose of a gigantic sum. And federal student loan forgiveness might be followed by another pen flick — forgiveness of federal loans to students’ parents: The New York Times reports that under the Parent PLUS program, 10 to 15 percent of parents of undergraduates take out loans “that typically grow to over $64,000 by graduation day.”

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NCDem47

(2,250 posts)
15. Great news!
Wed Feb 10, 2021, 01:08 PM
Feb 2021

We got to hold on to them as they age and make more money!

I've seen plenty of Dems shift Repub when they start acquiring assets and building families. Holding on to wealth, becoming resentful about taxes.

Turin_C3PO

(14,063 posts)
17. From what I remember
Wed Feb 10, 2021, 01:12 PM
Feb 2021

reading, Millennials appear to be bucking that trend. As the older ones approach 40, they’re hanging on to their liberal worldview longer than the previous generation, Generation X. Hopefully it will hold.

KPN

(15,650 posts)
34. Or just get bitter about keeping their lips just above water while Wall Street and politicians
Wed Feb 10, 2021, 02:18 PM
Feb 2021

amass riches. For whatever reason, they migrated to the GOP. It's stunning that the only thing the GOP did to get them their is foment hate and bastardize the federal government and "socialism"/liberals.

cilla4progress

(24,772 posts)
18. I will admit, I initially preferred someone younger (Kamala) -
Wed Feb 10, 2021, 01:25 PM
Feb 2021

and was concerned about the impact of Biden's age on the vote.

Interestingly, the "kids" didn't have an age issue with Bernie? I get it - his progressive politics.

Well, it turns out Biden is quite the progressive as well! And his pick of Kamala for VP - inspired.

What I see, when I look at Joe, is a wise elder. Settled. Self-accepting. Magnanimous. Comfortable in his own skin, as they say. Ego leavened by time and experience. Sure of what really matters in life.

Fair to say - I'm in love!

lunatica

(53,410 posts)
20. I hope he's smart enough to know why and to remember
Wed Feb 10, 2021, 01:31 PM
Feb 2021

this demographic always. They’re the future and it belongs to them. Us Boomers should try to leave it a better place as we hand it off to them.

I do think Biden gets it.

Indyfan53

(473 posts)
21. But will they vote in 2022?
Wed Feb 10, 2021, 01:35 PM
Feb 2021

My fear is they will sit out on next year’s midterm elections. They always shoot them selves in the foot when they do this. They wonder why things are messed up.

BlueLucy

(1,609 posts)
26. We need a Stacey Abrams in every county.
Wed Feb 10, 2021, 01:55 PM
Feb 2021

We need that kind of hard work and passion to beat republican voter suppression laws.

KPN

(15,650 posts)
30. +++
Wed Feb 10, 2021, 02:02 PM
Feb 2021

Yes, we have to find a way to replicate her -- everywhere! Too bad we can't just use a 3D printer!

KPN

(15,650 posts)
28. I don't know. I think they have learned that elections have consequences. They've been the
Wed Feb 10, 2021, 02:00 PM
Feb 2021

targets or potential targets for way too many mass shootings, they're struggling as a whole with college/rent costs, close relations with people of different races and sexual preference (who as groups are increasingly openly oppressed) are normal for them, they saw the harm inflicted under Trump and GOP control, they see the global warming climate denial of the GOP and corporations and understand their existence is at risk.

I think enough of them get the importance of their vote. We just need to stay engaged with, listen to and show results on what's important to them. That part's on us.

IronLionZion

(45,533 posts)
42. Inspire and encourage them to vote
Wed Feb 10, 2021, 02:56 PM
Feb 2021

by addressing their issues. Midterm elections would be about more local issues and we need to strengthen our majorities in congress.

KPN

(15,650 posts)
24. Yay! Young people are the foundation of my optimism for our future.
Wed Feb 10, 2021, 01:51 PM
Feb 2021

"Kids" in their 30's are also pretty awesome -- mine in particular.

Kitchari

(2,168 posts)
45. I agree - the young people give me hope
Wed Feb 10, 2021, 03:43 PM
Feb 2021

The ones I am fortunate to know are engaged and informed citizens, and I believe they are making our world a better place.

Maru Kitteh

(28,342 posts)
27. Both my daughters have surprised me with their enthusiasm for Biden
Wed Feb 10, 2021, 01:55 PM
Feb 2021

They both love Bernie, but they have been effusive in their praise and enthusiasm for Biden.


Love my girls.



 

DanieRains

(4,619 posts)
31. The Other 30% Have Stockholm Syndrome And Are Held Captive By Fundie Jerk Wads
Wed Feb 10, 2021, 02:03 PM
Feb 2021

Watch what I say, not what I do.

The new/old KKKristian way of life.

Their kids know their parents are mostly frauds, but they are still held captive.

Fiendish Thingy

(15,657 posts)
39. And it will stay that way as long as Biden is able to deliver on his promises w/o obstruction
Wed Feb 10, 2021, 02:46 PM
Feb 2021

This stat should give a big nudge to student debt forgiveness...

peggysue2

(10,839 posts)
40. Seditionists consolidated a renewed understanding of how our votes as citizens equal our voice
Wed Feb 10, 2021, 02:52 PM
Feb 2021

Seditionists put the fear of God into anyone and everyone who saw Donald Trump for what he was: a budding autocrat who hadn't quite finished the job of a complete takeover. Another term? There'd have been no stopping the death spiral. Younger voters had the most at risk between student debt, unemployment, climate change, etc., etc. Biden promised to address those issues and more while returning sanity to the WH.

We dodged a bullet by a hair. But the push back on Election Day 2020 was Step 1. The pressure and massive voting from Democrats, Indies and disgusted Republicans of all ages must continue in 2022, 2024 and beyond. Every single MAGA sympathizer must be voted out, purged from the system to protect the future. The only way the current GOP learns, think about what they've done is to deny them power at every level; it's the only language they understand.

Because another round of America First, fascist/mob rule would be fatal to the country.

And then? All bets are off.

BTW, I'm a fan of Ruth Ben-Ghiat's work. She has written that failed coup attempts are frequently followed by second, far more successful assaults. The mobsters won't give up easily. Vigilance is the word of the day.

Olafjoy

(937 posts)
43. I would love to see some student debt relief
Wed Feb 10, 2021, 02:57 PM
Feb 2021

I would also love to see some hard facts required to be presented to these young people before they and their families sign up for these huge loans. Also, truth from colleges and universities that “the financial aid package you receive freshman year will be significantly more generous then the next three years” Force them to lay out what the 4 years will look like for the student.

BobTheSubgenius

(11,567 posts)
49. That is one impressive statistic!
Wed Feb 10, 2021, 07:58 PM
Feb 2021

A bit surprising, as well, considering how that demographic turned on the Democrats over the Bernie "affair" in 2016.

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