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(23,795 posts)KPN
(16,038 posts)over the next 4 decades. I'm thinking the situation is a lot different today vs Vietnam era and these kids will stay true to their ideals at a greater rate than the boomers of that era.
AllTooEasy
(1,261 posts)That age demographic routinely doesn't vote in midterms, even worse in presidential elections.
What about seniors? We need them!
They've learned that elections have consequences.
They've been targets for way too many mass shootings, they're struggling financially as a whole, close relations with people who are increasingly openly oppressed (POC, immigrants, LGBTQs) are normal for them, they saw the harm inflicted under Trump and GOP control, they see the GOPs global warming denial and corporations and understand that human existence is at risk.
I think enough of them get the importance of their vote. We just need to stay engaged with, listen to and show results on what's important to them. That part's on us.
AllTooEasy
(1,261 posts)Big Hug!
KPN
(16,038 posts)Mariana
(14,956 posts)If we can get enough of them to stop doing that, we won't need the young people to come out and vote in abnormally large numbers.
Karadeniz
(23,293 posts)Wounded Bear
(60,446 posts)do that and we can make the Trump Party irrelevant.
North Shore Chicago
(3,979 posts)However, quite unsurprising. The young 'uns know what is good.
Baked Potato
(7,733 posts)mr_lebowski
(33,643 posts)Baked Potato
(7,733 posts)mr_lebowski
(33,643 posts)KPN
(16,038 posts)mr_lebowski
(33,643 posts)Then later I remembered what 3rd Season (dog of an) episode it actually was
MagickMuffin
(17,000 posts)They KNOW who's side of history to be on!
bearsfootball516
(6,457 posts)idziak4ever1234
(1,257 posts)those who have watched him for a long time knew he had a liberal streak.
Wellstone ruled
(34,661 posts)What a political national shift.
gollygee
(22,336 posts)It does seem like kids are very pro-Biden. Or maybe anti-Republican, or I guess both.
questionseverything
(10,012 posts)Blue_playwright
(1,573 posts)She preferred Elizabeth Warren and Bernie but was all in on Biden.
She is pleasantly surprised how liberal he really is. I knew he was left of Obama and remembered him from the senate when I was a kid. Ive refrained from saying I told you so.
soothsayer
(38,601 posts)helpisontheway
(5,202 posts)Celerity
(46,154 posts)https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/student-loan-forgiveness-is-a-schumer-warren-gift-to-the-well-off/2021/02/09/75877a64-6b08-11eb-9f80-3d7646ce1bc0_story.html
One drama of Joe Bidens infant presidency was foreshadowed 13 months ago in Iowa when a rival for the Democratic presidential nomination, Sen. Elizabeth Warren of Massachusetts, answered a question. Her a program for every problem repertoire included as much as $50,000 of forgiveness for indebted students or former students from households making less than $100,000, declining to zero for $250,000 households. An Iowan said to her:
My daughter is getting out of school. Ive saved all my money [so that] she doesnt have any student loans. Am I going to get my money back?
Warren: Of course not.
Iowan: So youre going to pay for people who didnt save any money, and those of us who did the right thing get screwed?
Of course: Activist government usually serves those who know how to activate it relatively affluent and articulate complainers. Last November, Adam Looney wrote in The Post that, About 56 percent of student debt is owed by those with masters or professional degrees, and almost 35 percent of loan balances are owed by individuals in the top 20 percent of income distribution. The five degrees responsible for most debt are: medical and law, bachelors and masters in business, and bachelor of science for nursing. The typical college graduate with debt ($28,500) can retire it in 20 years with $181 monthly payments.
Senate Majority Leader Charles E. Schumer (D-N.Y.) wants Biden to accomplish Warrens project with a flick of a pen. Schumer wants the legislative branch to be irrelevant to one of the largest transfers of wealth more than $1 trillion in U.S. history, a sum equal, according to Looney, to the total amount spent on cash welfare since 1980. Progressives say the 1965 Higher Education Law, which authorizes the education secretary (there wasnt one until 1979) to compromise federal student loans (there were none until 1958, and few in 1965), empowers an executive branch official to dispose of a gigantic sum. And federal student loan forgiveness might be followed by another pen flick forgiveness of federal loans to students parents: The New York Times reports that under the Parent PLUS program, 10 to 15 percent of parents of undergraduates take out loans that typically grow to over $64,000 by graduation day.
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NCDem47
(2,555 posts)We got to hold on to them as they age and make more money!
I've seen plenty of Dems shift Repub when they start acquiring assets and building families. Holding on to wealth, becoming resentful about taxes.
Turin_C3PO
(15,421 posts)reading, Millennials appear to be bucking that trend. As the older ones approach 40, theyre hanging on to their liberal worldview longer than the previous generation, Generation X. Hopefully it will hold.
KPN
(16,038 posts)amass riches. For whatever reason, they migrated to the GOP. It's stunning that the only thing the GOP did to get them their is foment hate and bastardize the federal government and "socialism"/liberals.
cilla4progress
(25,622 posts)and was concerned about the impact of Biden's age on the vote.
Interestingly, the "kids" didn't have an age issue with Bernie? I get it - his progressive politics.
Well, it turns out Biden is quite the progressive as well! And his pick of Kamala for VP - inspired.
What I see, when I look at Joe, is a wise elder. Settled. Self-accepting. Magnanimous. Comfortable in his own skin, as they say. Ego leavened by time and experience. Sure of what really matters in life.
Fair to say - I'm in love!
KPN
(16,038 posts)dchill
(40,146 posts)KPN
(16,038 posts)lunatica
(53,410 posts)this demographic always. Theyre the future and it belongs to them. Us Boomers should try to leave it a better place as we hand it off to them.
I do think Biden gets it.
Indyfan53
(482 posts)My fear is they will sit out on next years midterm elections. They always shoot them selves in the foot when they do this. They wonder why things are messed up.
Kitchari
(2,362 posts)BlueLucy
(1,609 posts)We need that kind of hard work and passion to beat republican voter suppression laws.
Yes, we have to find a way to replicate her -- everywhere! Too bad we can't just use a 3D printer!
KPN
(16,038 posts)targets or potential targets for way too many mass shootings, they're struggling as a whole with college/rent costs, close relations with people of different races and sexual preference (who as groups are increasingly openly oppressed) are normal for them, they saw the harm inflicted under Trump and GOP control, they see the global warming climate denial of the GOP and corporations and understand their existence is at risk.
I think enough of them get the importance of their vote. We just need to stay engaged with, listen to and show results on what's important to them. That part's on us.
DoBotherMe
(2,349 posts)to "shoot them in the foot." That's why they vote Democratic.
IronLionZion
(46,850 posts)by addressing their issues. Midterm elections would be about more local issues and we need to strengthen our majorities in congress.
KPN
(16,038 posts)"Kids" in their 30's are also pretty awesome -- mine in particular.
Kitchari
(2,362 posts)The ones I am fortunate to know are engaged and informed citizens, and I believe they are making our world a better place.
Maru Kitteh
(28,928 posts)They both love Bernie, but they have been effusive in their praise and enthusiasm for Biden.
Love my girls.
DanieRains
(4,619 posts)Watch what I say, not what I do.
The new/old KKKristian way of life.
Their kids know their parents are mostly frauds, but they are still held captive.
iluvtennis
(20,718 posts)Fiendish Thingy
(17,982 posts)This stat should give a big nudge to student debt forgiveness...
peggysue2
(11,435 posts)Seditionists put the fear of God into anyone and everyone who saw Donald Trump for what he was: a budding autocrat who hadn't quite finished the job of a complete takeover. Another term? There'd have been no stopping the death spiral. Younger voters had the most at risk between student debt, unemployment, climate change, etc., etc. Biden promised to address those issues and more while returning sanity to the WH.
We dodged a bullet by a hair. But the push back on Election Day 2020 was Step 1. The pressure and massive voting from Democrats, Indies and disgusted Republicans of all ages must continue in 2022, 2024 and beyond. Every single MAGA sympathizer must be voted out, purged from the system to protect the future. The only way the current GOP learns, think about what they've done is to deny them power at every level; it's the only language they understand.
Because another round of America First, fascist/mob rule would be fatal to the country.
And then? All bets are off.
BTW, I'm a fan of Ruth Ben-Ghiat's work. She has written that failed coup attempts are frequently followed by second, far more successful assaults. The mobsters won't give up easily. Vigilance is the word of the day.
IronLionZion
(46,850 posts)Olafjoy
(937 posts)I would also love to see some hard facts required to be presented to these young people before they and their families sign up for these huge loans. Also, truth from colleges and universities that the financial aid package you receive freshman year will be significantly more generous then the next three years Force them to lay out what the 4 years will look like for the student.
calimary
(83,904 posts)It appears they get it.
marble falls
(61,755 posts)mopinko
(71,562 posts)these kids are gonna be loyal like the ppl fdr saved from the depression.
BigmanPigman
(52,147 posts)BobTheSubgenius
(11,764 posts)A bit surprising, as well, considering how that demographic turned on the Democrats over the Bernie "affair" in 2016.
blueinredohio
(6,797 posts)They see what we have isn't working.
Cha
(304,419 posts)Vivienne235729
(3,702 posts)She only knows 1 kid who is a trumper.
Nitram
(24,417 posts)SunSeeker
(53,456 posts)augyboston
(254 posts)Thus far, I am blown away by how surprisingly progressive Joe has been.
FDR revisited...
PatSeg
(49,589 posts)Gives me hope for the future!