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Gorilla glue surgery successful! (Original Post) mfcorey1 Feb 2021 OP
Good on that doctor. hlthe2b Feb 2021 #1
I didn't think ADK Feb 2021 #2
It really wasn't surgical. He has a chemical background and merely developed a combined hlthe2b Feb 2021 #3
I Could Have Done It For 10% of the Cost ProfessorGAC Feb 2021 #10
Yes. I suspect they thought she might require skin grafts on her scalp or a reduction. hlthe2b Feb 2021 #13
I Missed That He Volunteered ProfessorGAC Feb 2021 #16
Sure, but the damage would not have come from the glue directly, but the constant traction hlthe2b Feb 2021 #18
I Suppose ProfessorGAC Feb 2021 #24
Wouldn't that stuff come loose sooner or later? Hassin Bin Sober Feb 2021 #34
As Another Poster Suggested... ProfessorGAC Feb 2021 #37
He did it for free. tblue37 Feb 2021 #36
I Was Kidding ProfessorGAC Feb 2021 #38
I hope he gets a patent. mfcorey1 Feb 2021 #40
No kidding. cwydro Feb 2021 #9
Wasn't what we know as "super glue" originally designed as a medical/surgical adhesive? n/t forgotmylogin Feb 2021 #4
Yes. Medical grade surgical adhesive is a sterile version of what we know as "super glue" hlthe2b Feb 2021 #5
Me, Again ProfessorGAC Feb 2021 #26
I'm glad for her. And the surgeon has provided a new chemical procedure. Hortensis Feb 2021 #6
wouldnt a buzz cut have gotten rid of the hair easier? nt msongs Feb 2021 #7
Probably not. It would have gummed up the clippers pronto. I'm glad she found someone Trailrider1951 Feb 2021 #11
I gotta wonder if that's what's holding her lashes LeftInTX Feb 2021 #23
Sorry, but lash "glue" and Gorilla glue spray adhesive are NOT the same stuff: Trailrider1951 Feb 2021 #25
From what I saw, there wasn't anything to "buzz cut." W_HAMILTON Feb 2021 #14
I'm happy for her. Solly Mack Feb 2021 #8
Me too. crickets Feb 2021 #12
I worried about her having glue suffocate her pores that way for so long. Solly Mack Feb 2021 #15
So..what perjorative is safe to use in this situation? Fix The Stupid Feb 2021 #17
Why would anyone want to do that? NurseJackie Feb 2021 #20
Wow... Hav Feb 2021 #22
Are you having a rough time not being able to use pejoratives against minorities? Hassin Bin Sober Feb 2021 #28
Next thing you know, people will be ridiculing folks who live in mobile homes... NurseJackie Feb 2021 #39
Really? gollygee Feb 2021 #31
Actually your user name would apply to this woman. :) Catherine Vincent Feb 2021 #32
I'm very happy for her. What an ordeal! NurseJackie Feb 2021 #19
I'm really glad. What a thing to go through in such a public way. nolabear Feb 2021 #21
That poor kid! Greybnk48 Feb 2021 #27
Kid? She's old enough to run for president Retrograde Feb 2021 #29
That is great news! ellie Feb 2021 #30
Very glad the doctor was able to help her. nt gollygee Feb 2021 #33
Very glad the doctor was able to help this woman Catherine Vincent Feb 2021 #35
I'm glad it was successful Raine Feb 2021 #41
And then there's this... NurseJackie Feb 2021 #42
 

ADK

(83 posts)
2. I didn't think
Thu Feb 11, 2021, 10:37 AM
Feb 2021

there is a surgical procedure to treat stupid. The marvels of modern medicine I guess.

hlthe2b

(102,137 posts)
3. It really wasn't surgical. He has a chemical background and merely developed a combined
Thu Feb 11, 2021, 10:40 AM
Feb 2021

solvent-- including medical adhesive remover with a little acetone and aloe vera/olive oil to break it down without causing too much damage to the scalp. That he was a plastic surgeon was only necessary if there had been major scalp damage, which apparently there wasn't. Because she was so stressed out and the discomfort--along with the 4 hours required, he sedated her throughout. But arguably this wasn't really a medical procedure--though it could have required his skills had it been more severe.

ProfessorGAC

(64,860 posts)
10. I Could Have Done It For 10% of the Cost
Thu Feb 11, 2021, 03:13 PM
Feb 2021

Every good chemist can figure out how to dissolve polyurethanes. And most can figure out what emollients to use to minimize skin drying.
I worked with A LOT of product development folks, so I'd have a wonderful idea on what would help the skin. Obviously, so would they.
I'm glad she'll be ok, but it didn't take a plastic surgeon to do this.

hlthe2b

(102,137 posts)
13. Yes. I suspect they thought she might require skin grafts on her scalp or a reduction.
Thu Feb 11, 2021, 03:40 PM
Feb 2021

procedure. He did apparently volunteer his services, which was nice of him.

I'm glad she got her issue resolved, but if she goes ahead and sues Gorilla Glue, I'm going to spit nails.

ProfessorGAC

(64,860 posts)
16. I Missed That He Volunteered
Thu Feb 11, 2021, 03:53 PM
Feb 2021

Thanks for that! Pretty generous of the doc.
But, unless someone tried to peel it off prior, the biggest risk would be damaged hair.
Urethane based glues dissolve pretty readily.
To help the skin I would have used a different ketone & ethyl or isopropyl acetate.
It would take a couple more minutes to soften the cured glue, but much less drying.
I agree with you about suing GG. I've got a bottle of it on the table in front of me. It says, in 3 different places on the bottle, to not get it on skin. I don't know how they could have been clearer.

hlthe2b

(102,137 posts)
18. Sure, but the damage would not have come from the glue directly, but the constant traction
Thu Feb 11, 2021, 03:56 PM
Feb 2021

and lack of oxygen to the scalp--which could have not only damaged follicles but potentially caused some scalp necrosis.

ProfessorGAC

(64,860 posts)
24. I Suppose
Thu Feb 11, 2021, 04:16 PM
Feb 2021

Given the viscosity of the glue, and the rapidity of the cure (kinetic rate is under 50 millisends for the monomer to react) I truly doubt a large percentage of the scalp was coated. The hair, obviously.
I suppose she could have p greatly overused it, too. In which case there would have been time for liquid to spread before it began to cure.
This is such a strange story I shouldn't rule anything out.
One reason my opinion is so strong on this one is I also worked with adhesive chemists because my company made a few polyester polyols that are used in adhesives.
I know more about glues than I ever imagined I would.

Hassin Bin Sober

(26,315 posts)
34. Wouldn't that stuff come loose sooner or later?
Thu Feb 11, 2021, 04:52 PM
Feb 2021

I’ve had that stuff on my hands and rather than soak my hands in acetone I wait a day until natural skin oils loosen the grip.

Not good if you have a wedding or job interview to attend but I prefer the natural method.

It’s nice she got someone to take care of it for free but wouldn’t it grow out eventually?

ProfessorGAC

(64,860 posts)
37. As Another Poster Suggested...
Thu Feb 11, 2021, 05:14 PM
Feb 2021

...if she used it too heavily and it dripped onto a large area of the scalp before it completely cured, she could get skin damage.
The scalp doesn't flex in multiple directions like our hands do, so there's little shearing force to break the polyurethane bonds.
While the oil helps (as you suggest) the mechanical force matters.
Hair has very little water, and most of the natural softening components are hydrolyzed proteins. These are more water, than oil soluble. So, they'd do a poor job of breaking down the glue.
No scalp damage? Yeah, let the hair grow. Live with short hair.
But, I'm guessing she overused the stuff.

 

cwydro

(51,308 posts)
9. No kidding.
Thu Feb 11, 2021, 03:07 PM
Feb 2021

But she wants to be famous. Guess she succeeded.

How many other idiots will try this kind of thing?

ProfessorGAC

(64,860 posts)
26. Me, Again
Thu Feb 11, 2021, 04:22 PM
Feb 2021

Honestly, the only difference between the sterile version and the consumer version is the documentation of the cleaning process between batches.
Bacteria can't survive in these formulas, and viruses should denature easily at the blending temperatures used.
The FDA has very specific rules about what steps need to be taken to call something sterile. These MUST be followed even if the system in inherently sterile.
Rules are rules.
In work I did on special antimicrobials, the reactor prep still had to follow those rules and the product molecule kills bacteria & destroys viruses.
There's no "but" with the FDA. Which is a good thing! No shortcuts.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
6. I'm glad for her. And the surgeon has provided a new chemical procedure.
Thu Feb 11, 2021, 10:55 AM
Feb 2021

Guessing someone in need somewhere has already googled and found it.

Trailrider1951

(3,413 posts)
11. Probably not. It would have gummed up the clippers pronto. I'm glad she found someone
Thu Feb 11, 2021, 03:21 PM
Feb 2021

to help her with this mishap. When I think back to a couple of my hair mishaps...well, let's just say it took a while to grow it out. Also, I've used Gorilla construction adhesive in the course of remodeling my house. If the label says "Gorilla", you can bet it's some serious shit.

W_HAMILTON

(7,835 posts)
14. From what I saw, there wasn't anything to "buzz cut."
Thu Feb 11, 2021, 03:41 PM
Feb 2021

Her hair was very short and basically sculpted to her scalp. You would have needed a razor to cut it, if you were to cut it at all.

Here, I went and found a picture for you:

crickets

(25,952 posts)
12. Me too.
Thu Feb 11, 2021, 03:39 PM
Feb 2021

What an awful experience to go through for a hairstyle. It was a dumb mistake, but I still felt very sorry for her, and I'm glad someone was able to help her keep her scalp in one piece along with a fair amount of her hair.

Solly Mack

(90,758 posts)
15. I worried about her having glue suffocate her pores that way for so long.
Thu Feb 11, 2021, 03:48 PM
Feb 2021

The scalp has pores. Clogged scalp pores cause problems.

In addition to the obvious stress she was already under and the damage the glue did to the hair itself.

I'm relieved for her. Happy for her. It could have gone so much worse.

Fix The Stupid

(947 posts)
17. So..what perjorative is safe to use in this situation?
Thu Feb 11, 2021, 03:56 PM
Feb 2021


If "wypipo" is allowed to be slung around here with impunity, what is the equivalent in this situation?

Hav

(5,969 posts)
22. Wow...
Thu Feb 11, 2021, 04:06 PM
Feb 2021

I'd ask you to make a suggestion to let it out of your system as there is something that clearly bothers you. But I can almost guess the word...
Here, have a heart, maybe it helps not being so angry about stupid stuff.

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
39. Next thing you know, people will be ridiculing folks who live in mobile homes...
Thu Feb 11, 2021, 05:21 PM
Feb 2021

... this is a slippery slope.

nolabear

(41,936 posts)
21. I'm really glad. What a thing to go through in such a public way.
Thu Feb 11, 2021, 04:06 PM
Feb 2021

Really great info too, on what works if it happens to you. And by you, I mean me. 😃

Greybnk48

(10,162 posts)
27. That poor kid!
Thu Feb 11, 2021, 04:38 PM
Feb 2021

I saw this the other day and wondered if she was able to be helped. Thanks for posting this!

Retrograde

(10,130 posts)
29. Kid? She's old enough to run for president
Thu Feb 11, 2021, 04:49 PM
Feb 2021

Reports I've read said she's 40 - not what I'd call a kid.

Catherine Vincent

(34,486 posts)
35. Very glad the doctor was able to help this woman
Thu Feb 11, 2021, 05:04 PM
Feb 2021

I never was a fan of hair glue. I know a few women that would use it but it just didn't appeal to me.

Anyway, this woman should have known the gorilla glue wasn't hair glue.

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