Chuck Schumer's Recess Announcement Yesterday

[MineralMan]

gave me some indication of just how angry he is right now. I expect we will hear a serious diatribe from him at some point, addressed to the entire Senate, but particularly the GQP Senators.

Clearly, he is out of shits to give at this point.

[getagrip_already]

1. to what recess announcement do we speak of?

Curious. Is he sending the senate into a formal recess? That would allow biden to appoint his cabinet in a pen stroke and they can get to work until the confirmations grind throuh.

[MineralMan]

3. At the end of yesterday's evidence hearing.

Not a formal recess. Just a recess until today.

[getagrip_already]

5. Did the wh make any recess appointments? n/t

[MineralMan]

6. It was not that kind of recess.

[getagrip_already]

9. too bad...

Though they do have a week break coming up. Good opportunity to cancel all business and declare the senate out ofsession until their return. Though that in itself would slow things down considerably.

[Ninga]

2. What the f!

Please explain to me why the house managers do not stop Their presentation to simply call out senators who are showing what willful disregard for the trial? What good will it do to say something afterwards? To say something in a CNN interview? Why are those senators not ejected from the chambers and not allowed to vote? When will enough be enough?

[MineralMan]

4. There would be no point to that, really.

They have presentations to make. The Senators can look for themselves and see the behavior of their colleagues.

[getagrip_already]

7. though, I did see mention of an ethics committee hearing into senators involvement.....

with trump leading up the fifth and immediately after.

That may have been timed as a bit of a warning.

[Ninga]

8. I don't get it.

But to not call it out doesn’t that give
Tacit approval? Isn’t their arrogance supported by silence

[MineralMan]

10. It's way more complicated than that, really.

There is still an outside chance of getting 17 Republicans to vote to convict. That is the primary goal of the House managers. The Republicans who are lounging in their seats, reading, or otherwise ignoring the evidence will not vote to convict. So, attacking them is not important at this stage of the presentations of evidence.

Leave that to Chuck Schumer, who may well say something very pointed when he gets the opportunity. He's pretty pissed right now.

Besides, the media coverage is clearly pointing out that inattention.

[FoxNewsSucks]

13. They don't need 2/3 of the full Senate.

Just 2/3 of the senators who are present. As you say, we already know those assholes will vote to let MF45 off the hook.

Eject them. Encourage the spineless ones to stay home. If they're too cowardly to vote for what's right, just stay home. Then we only need 2/3 of 85-90 senators. That conviction vote would be well within possibility.

[MineralMan]

15. Nobody will be ejected.

I don't bother with things that won't change. It's a waste of time.

[Ninga]

14. Thanks for calming me down with your words of reason. I am weepy this AM. Lee's stunt yesterday

on the floor of the Senate calling asserting the Managers lied about his words, (his lie) and Graham et al dismissing the trial has me disheartened. The R’s are too crafty and evil.

[FoxNewsSucks]

11. I'm so sick of that too.

There are NEVER consequences for a republiqon. More and more, I really think a "big fix" is in. Not just letting MF45 off, but the overall "fix". Voter suppression, gerrymandering, the rightwing judges.

They are too brazen. They know nothing will happen to them, and we soon will be unable to vote them out. They only have to worry that a democratic politician might say "shame on them" during a tv interview. And I don't think they really worry much about that.

[Hortensis]

18. VOTERS are the ones who assign rewards and consequences.

Not their colleagues. To put it mildly, it is not in our power to exclude Republican senators from Trump's trial.

But if there were a big fix, Biden would not be president, we wouldn't have been given control of the house in 2018, or this bare majority in 2021.

There are consequences, but on the right they're all the wrong ones. The Republican senators are all afraid of their own PRIMARY voters. Trumpsters offended by even a whiff of disloyalty to Trump will turn on them as fast and viciously as the "hang Pence" mob did on him. Good character has been virtually purged from today's GOP senators; even the "good" ones routinely betray their duty and are only better by comparison with a really bad lot. So most have neither the principles nor the guts to do what's right -- even in grave national emergency.

So, we know what we're facing and have to overcome. Anti-trumpist forces are the majority and growing in number. Trumpists are the minority and losing more electoral and donor support all the time.

It should help angry people to remember that they really need to get rid of Trump for both personal safety and to save the party but can't vote to do it; so when they vote to acquit, they lose. They're locked in to continuing that slide.

[lagomorph777]

12. Although Mike Lee's lie has already been debunked, it also has minimal importance.

Once they played the AUDIO of Giuliani doing the same thing Trump had done a few minutes before, it really didn't matter what Lee claimed.

[choie]

16. Could you please let us know what he said?

Thanks!

[MineralMan]

17. It wasn't what he said. He just recessed the Senate until today.

It was how he said it, and I can't reproduce that here. His jaw was set. He was visibly pissed off. I recommend watching the coverage, if you can. It's very informative. I'm watching on MSNBC.

[lindysalsagal]

19. This was the confusion about the senator (Lee) who wanted his name struck from the record.

There was confusion about if that was possible or if it needed a vote. They started a vote and then stopped. The presiding senator is really not thinking quickly enough to keep up with an unexpected interruption. Lee wasn't supposed to do that and they all jumped in to try to let the senate adjourn. They probably worked it out afterwards, and whatever comes of it will be stated quickly when they start, if at all.

The guy was grandstanding for his own voters, is all.

[MineralMan]

20. Actually, it was a point of order thing.

The parliamentarian was consulted, and that was what was ordered from the chair. Lee was out of order. The rule was cited.

It was time for the day's business to end. That's what Schumer did. It wasn't what was said. It was his demeanor that indicated his mood, which was stormy, at best.