I Can See The "defense" Wrapping Up Their Case On Friday

[sfstaxprep]

I think it's quite possible the Senate votes by this weekend, after closing statements.

The Democrats appear uninterested in calling Witnesses, and the repubs really don't want to bother mounting much of a case, given they've already made their unmovable decision. Plus they probably don't want to give the 1 Drumpf attorney control of their case on Saturday, since the more competent one will be taking the Sabbath off.

I think if the House team thought there was any chance of moving enough repubs, they might call witnesses. Instead, I believe they just want to get the whole thing over with, and realize like most do, that they're wasting their time, and taking away from working on President Biden's agenda.

[Laelth]

1. The Senate has other work to do.

Agreed. This could be short.

Still, the case is on the record as will be the votes of all our Republican Senators. That should make a difference going forward.

-Laelth

[sfstaxprep]

2. I Doubt There's ANYTHING That Will Make A Difference Going Forward

Get it on the record, by all means. If for nothing else, the history books a century from now, when none of us are around.

We've been heading down this road for years. This is not going to even make a dent in our trajectory.

[OAITW r.2.0]

3. Absolutely not a waste of time.

They have made the historical record of Trump's attempted insurrection on 1/6/21. And the Republicans will have the choice: vote their conscience to impeach or prove their Trump bona fides by voting to acquit. We will see how the voters react in future re-elections.

[sfstaxprep]

4. I Don't Disagree

But speaking for myself, I will be long dead by the time the history books have any relevance.

Not to mention that history books have very little impact. We have history books now, and look at where this country is.

[lagomorph777]

13. Hopefully you won't be long dead in 2022, when voters take revenge on Qpublicans.

House managers have made it crystal clear to any voter with half a heart and half a brain, that these Qpublicans are complicit in the most evil acts since the Civil War.

[sfstaxprep]

15. There Are Just Too Many Without Half A Heart Or Half A Brain, Or Both nt

[lagomorph777]

16. I think there are enough to shift Congress further in our direction.

[lagomorph777]

5. The House team has done a STELLAR job. They have 100 witnesses in the room already.

(Not including themselves).

They have made a stunning, compelling, thorough argument. Their arguments are both factual and emotional, and intended to personally engage every Senator, all of whom were victims of Trump's crime.

[agingdem]

10. After Mike Lee pulled his bullshit objection

it occurred to me Trump was hoping the mob would kill Pence because that would give him the ammunition he needed to declare martial law...everything stops and Trump stays in office

[lagomorph777]

11. He was hoping the terrorists would kill the entire Congress so he could seize total control forever.

The Qpublicans are too stupid to get that.

[MontanaMama]

6. I can't imagine the defense has

16 hours worth of content. Since they can’t argue that Traitor45 didn’t incite the insurrection, listening to them mumble for any length of time will be excruciating.

[wiggs]

7. I don't understand why there's not more effort to link the Trump team to insurrectionists. There

are photos of Stone with oathkeepers. Campaign staff obtained the rally permit. There was a giant Jan 5 planning meeting in Trump Tower, reportedly with insurrectionists/Trump family/consultants. There must have been phone calls leading up to Jan 6 and during between Trump team and insurrectionists.

Aside from news reports and the speech which we are seeing over and over, wouldn't there normally be TONS of forensic evidence of conspiracy, participation, locations, eyewitness accounts, etc? Who were Stone, Miller, Bannon, and Don Jr talking to the last couple of months?

Are they saving all that for criminal trials and letting the gop 'no' votes on conviction look horrible in hindsight? Or does the House team just not have time and resources to gather/present all the info in a credible manner?

[lagomorph777]

12. The goal is to link Trump himself to the terrorists; they did an amazing job of that.

The rest of Trump's henchmen will face separate actions from DOJ and Congress.

Trump is the priority in the Impeachment.

[Miguelito Loveless]

8. Sorry, I wannt witnesses

including members of the Senate and House, testifying UNDER OATH.

[OneBlueDotBama]

9. Difficult Call, as...

trump's lawyer, Schoen is an Orthodox Jew & requested & granted a postponement if the trial ran into Shabbat. Monday is President's day, plus the senate had planned a recess for the week of President's day.

[sfstaxprep]

17. Making It WAY More Likely They Try To Wrap It By Sunday

Perhaps that is the goal, and why the lawyer just told them to go ahead with Saturday, and he wouldn't be there.

My guess is that Saturday is spent with the House Managers giving their closing. Then they break until Sunday, the other side closes, and there's a vote.

57-43 is my top margin, best realistic scenario.

[brooklynite]

14. Following presentation of the cases, there is a Q&A phase.

[cry baby]

18. I totally disagree that the managers think this is a waste of time.

I think they, and Nancy Pelosi know that history is being written and they are determined to tell the story. That’s much more important than a conviction or non-conviction.