FBI Provides Proof of Incitement

[kpete]

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Jessica Watkins Dressed For The War She Planned

This is a court filing by the Department of Justice in the case of insurrectionist Jessica Watkins. http://cdn.cnn.com/cnn/2021/images/02/11/04518323725.pdf

The document is a brief in support of pre-trial detention. It's an argument that Watkins is so dangerous that she should be denied bail. It states that as part of her leadership role in the Oath Keepers and an Ohio "militia" that she "trained and plotted for a moment like this." She described it as "our duty as Americans to fight, kill and die for our rights.” In the words of the brief: “This was the grave threat that Watkins recruited new militia members to fight against."

However, it also makes clear that Watkins awaited Trump's order to act and would not act without it. In the words of the brief: "As the inauguration grew nearer, Watkins indicated that she was awaiting direction from President Trump."

On November 9th she wrote: "Unless the POTUS himself activates us, it’s not legit . . . If Trump asks me to come, I will. Otherwise, I can’t trust it.”

She then made clear that she believed Trump had given his marching orders. Near the end of December she wrote: “we plan on going to DC on the 6th” because “Trump wants all able bodied Patriots to come.” She then planned with others equipment to bring and tactics to employ in attacking the Capitol. As she did so she stated: "await orders to enter DC under permission from Trump, not a minute sooner.”

On January 4th, two days before she wrote:

“It is CRITICAL that all patriots who can be in DC get to DC to stand tall in support of President Trump’s fight to defeat the enemies foreign and domestic who are attempting a coup, through the massive vote fraud and related attacks on our Republic. We Oath Keepers are both honor-bound and eager to be there in strength to do our part.”

https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2021/2/11/2015380/-FBI-Provides-Proof-of-Incitement

Pages 4 & 5 Point Directly At Trump For Orders:
B. Watkins Planned and Coordinated with Oath Keeper members to Attack the
Capitol on January 6, 2021
http://cdn.cnn.com/cnn/2021/images/02/11/04518323725.pdf

[MontanaMama]

1. I'm learning more every hour of this impeachement trial

about the grave danger this insurrection posed to our democracy. We were a heartbeat away from losing it...and THAT is apparently okay with most republican senators.

[alwaysinasnit]

10. +1000

[pandr32]

25. Scary as hell

The RepubliQans couldn't care less. All they care about is their own power and opportunity to self-enrich--the rest of us and our country be damned.

[yellowdogintexas]

2. damn too late to be entered into the evidence nt

[Hermit-The-Prog]

6. Isn't that for the House impeachment managers to determine?

[dutch777]

3. The impeachment is not the only important thing. Getting Watkins and others charged on conspiracy,

incitement and sedition will be the way to make future crazies think twice before going down this road when they see the legal jeopardy and personal cost of those punished for plans and actions around 1/6/21.

[wnylib]

16. Wonder if we will ever be able to include

Trump in a criminal charge of conspiracy. I hope so, but seriously doubt that it will ever happen.

[dutch777]

35. The question of criminal charges by the DOJ is very interesting. I think that is part of delay ...

...in Senate review of AG nominee Garland. Just like Trump was able to run out the clock on so many legal issues as Prez, Trump allied Senators see hamstringing DOJ under Biden as long as possible as a worthwhile tactic. As much as I want to see criminal charges against Trump at the national level, I think State and local efforts like NY, GA an NYC also have value albeit maybe less symbolically strong.

What I REALLY want to see from DOJ is extensive prosecution of the mob from 1/6 AND the investigation and hopefully indictments against those that plotted and supported it even if not physically present. I would also like to see who in the WH, folks that took the same oath to uphold the Constitution that Trump did, were helping him plot subversion of the election results and blocking of the Constitutional process to certify the Electoral College results. Clearly, Trump didn't come up with all the strategy and tactics that went into laying the foundation for the notion of a "rigged" election prior to the election, all the legal challenges at the state level after the election, the calling of GA and other state election officials to flip the results and so on.

Making the cost through legal proceedings and consequences against the underlings as high as possible now, I think could be a more effective vaccine against similar plots in the future than convicting the impeached Trump in the Senate. I also think, Congressional reps, Senators, their staffs and the Capitol Police filing class action civil lawsuits would be another heavy legal burden on the mob and its enablers that be valuable for both justice and sending a lesson to the future that this tactic does not win or pay.

[Lock him up.]

48. A lot of Nixon's yesmen went to jail after he resigned and for a lot less damages than that.

Although crimes were committed, they pale in comparison with setting up an insurrection that murdered a cop, injured hundreds others, and threatened the lives of elected officials.

Did those precedents ever prevented Trump's henchmen from conspiring and committing these crimes? Nope. Never occured to them he was lying and bullying them daily with his unhinged temper tantrums in the Oval Office?

[dutch777]

49. Lessons are learned...and forgotten, sadly. And this is scarier as the Trump and his ilk are

more dangerous in my opinion than Nixon and the bumblers were. It really is necessary that while we have Congress and the WH that laws and policies are put in place that make Congressional subpeonas mean something, and disqualification for future Fed positions for violations and the list goes on and on. But we gotta move fast.

[Maraya1969]

4. They are all so COOL. I love that they are going to be locked up with their stupid

war fantasies.

[BSdetect]

5. So why not arrest drumpf right now?

[stopdiggin]

7. because there is not a direct link

people get "messages" from god every day too. Doesn't mean that god actually spoke the words. All kinds of rubes and chumps out there that believe in Q-Anon as well .... Just proves that they're rubes and chumps.

[GOPistheEnemy]

8. DC can still charge him with starting a riot sadly that won't get it frog marched on TV

[niyad]

12. Welcome to our DU family.

[coti]

11. Other than him inviting them for Jan 6 and holding the rally

beforehand and having organized all the groups together and telling them it wouldn't be a legitimate election unless he won even months before the election and clearly intending to overturn the will of the people and repeatedly praising the use of violence previously and telling them he was going with them and it was their LAST CHANCE and watching it and staying updated on TV and not telling them to stop and not immediately authorizing defense by the NG and his supporters telling everyone he told them to do it, no, there was no connection.

[groundloop]

27. And replacing defense department officials, and the Capitol Police being unprepared.....

who could have possibly predicted what would happen given all of these 'coincidences'?

[stopdiggin]

34. all undoubtedly true

but still no text or voice message from the grand poobah to this woman (or anyone else that we know of) saying "I want you to go kill me some cops and senators."

Is that what it will really take? Sadly -- you and I already know the answer to that.

[IronLionZion]

9. Proud Girls

It's absolutely bizarre how many of these extremists believe Trump had extraordinary powers that he doesn't actually have. Many of them thought he could order a stop of vote counts. Can authorize civilians to conduct law enforcement or militant actions. Can order his supporters to commit acts of violence on other Americans. And so on.

[FakeNoose]

13. So true - it's part of the brainwashing

Amazing isn't it?

I'm glad they captured her and all of these conspiratorial communications.

[Progressive Jones]

24. Cutting through the crap... Some people are just plain stupid. I know, it's not

nice to call people stupid.
I'm sure if we dig far enough, the riot was not the first stupid t6hing these losers have done.
I'd imagine that we could find witnesses to their stupidity going back to childhood.
These trump flakes, no, doubt, have proven track records of not being able to play well with others.
These are not "patriots". They are a dangerous enemy of the United States.

Trump has no magic power. His fans are not normal, evolved humans, who inexplicably fell for his bullshit.
Trump knows just exactly how mentally defective, and morally retarded, this crowd is.

[live love laugh]

36. The rejects are his "peops". Bullies prey on the weak (minded). nt

[MyMission]

47. Stupid is as stupid does

I agree, it's generally not nice to call someone stupid. But calling a group stupid seems more descriptive than belligerent. When the shoe fits ...

[AllaN01Bear]

14. if that cop hadnt distracted that mob , wed be hearing a whole diffe

rent story.

[world wide wally]

15. The more I learn about Americans, the more I like the Portuguese

[IronLionZion]

17. Portuguese are delightful people

but they do have their own problems of racism and violence against people perceived to be job stealing migrants

[erronis]

18. Well, I like the Portuguese also but maybe a bit more about your affinity?

Those fine folks for Portugal also colonized and committed atrocities in the pre-European American and African and Asian continents. Just like the Spaniards, the French, English, Dutch, etc.

But the portuguesa language is beautiful, even if I can't understand it.

[VA_Jill]

23. They had a dictator for 50 years

Antonio Salazar. Look him up.

[world wide wally]

28. Is New Zealand the only place that is safe?

[VA_Jill]

29. Safety is relative

I saw a map the other day somewhere of democracies in the world. "Flawed" vs. "absolute". There are very few "absolute", and New Zealand is one. Some of those, like Chile, have a recent history of horrible dictatorships, but are pretty stable now. Iceland is "safe" as well as "absolute", the Scandinavian countries are "absolute" and I suppose relatively safe. Some "flawed" democracies are not terribly unsafe, depending on where you live. Pick your poison, I suppose. I wish I could point you at the map, but I can't. I think I saw it on Twitter. Oh, and would it surprise you at all to know that we live in a "flawed" democracy? Terribly flawed at the moment, I fear.

[world wide wally]

30. I think I'll stick with New Zealand till somebody tells me otherwise.

Too cold in those other places.
Thanks

[IronLionZion]

31. Even New Zealand has some racial issues with the Maori

and a white New Zealand policy restricting immigration for much of their colonial history. But their present day situation sounds pretty good.

Costa Rica is another country with straight up genocidal past but their present situation is mostly good.

[world wide wally]

32. How about La La Land?

Will that work?

[IronLionZion]

33. Dream it and Go for it

[Corgigal]

19. This female veteran

is again embarrassed. We’re not all like this, even when we were young. Some just did our jobs, created no waves, and left the service for a civilian job. I went from Air Traffic Controller for 8 years in the USAF to working for 8 years in 911 in Tampa Florida.

Always voted, democratic and helped my neighbor when I could.

[paleotn]

20. These people are out of the freaking minds...

"honor-bound and eager"? Add INCARCERATED!!!

[maxrandb]

21. She seems nice.

Can't believe some lucky guy hasn't snatched her up yet.

[JohnQFunk]

22. She's gonna love Supermax! 🔚

[NoMoreRepugs]

26. Tens of millions of guns, hundreds of millions of rounds, propaganda

on the teevee and HateRadio - add in tens of thousands, possibly hundreds of thousands of committed Goobers and I think you can safely say America is deep shit.

[DENVERPOPS]

44. Perfect NMR

But I believe your estimates are way way low.

WASF

If you look at the number of RepubliCON voters, does anyone really think that a jury in a criminal court could be seated that doesn't include a number of these Trumphumpers.?????????? I am not a lawyer, but I cannot imagine any of these people being found guilty, regardless of the evidence, by a jury that has even one Trumphumper......

It would be the exact same thing that is about to happen in the Senate when they vote on impeachment...........

WASF

[NoMoreRepugs]

45. Agree a bazillion %.

[DENVERPOPS]

46. I have to tell you

I came within two hours of leaving for Canada in December 1967............
There isn't a day that has gone by, since what I saw developing in January 1980, that I haven't thought about that decision.....

[BootinUp]

37. What was that KABOOOM?

[dalton99a]

38. Kick

[Buckeye_Democrat]

39. Trump is basically Charles Manson.

Manson spent the remainder of his life in prison for inciting murders by his followers, despite killing nobody himself.

[VA_Jill]

40. Or Osama bin Ladin

Remember, Osama didn't fly the planes.

[Blue Owl]

41. K&R

[Pepsidog]

42. Send her to fight ISIS and see how tough she and the rest of these cowards are.

[C Moon]

43. What a fucking knucklehead.

[rockfordfile]

50. Where do they get that stuff? the local terrorist store?

[BobTheSubgenius]

51. It's very compelling, for sure.

Problem is, uncorroborated evidence from a perpetrator within the crime is more or less no evidence at all.

Even though the supporting documents were provided by the FBI for a pre-trial bail hearing. Keeping a badass like her in jail instead of being granted bail is a far cry from getting her convicted, let alone a third party.