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Klaralven

(7,510 posts)
Thu Feb 11, 2021, 04:59 PM Feb 2021

'Gamechanger' drug for treating obesity cuts body weight by 20%

One third (35%) of people who took a new drug for treating obesity lost more than one-fifth (greater than or equal to 20%) of their total body weight, according to a major global study involving UCL researchers.

The findings from the large-scale international trial, published today in the New England Journal for Medicine, are being hailed as a "gamechanger" for improving the health of people with obesity and could play a major part in helping the UK to reduce the impact of diseases, such as COVID-19.

The drug, semaglutide, works by hijacking the body's own appetite regulating system in the brain leading to reduced hunger and calorie intake.

Rachel Batterham, Professor of Obesity, Diabetes and Endocrinology who leads the Centre for Obesity Research at UCL and the UCLH Centre for Weight Management, is one of the principal authors on the paper which involved almost 2,000 people in 16 countries.

Professor Batterham (UCL Medicine) said: "The findings of this study represent a major breakthrough for improving the health of people with obesity. Three quarters (75%) of people who received semaglutide 2.4mg lost more than 10% of their body weight and more than one-third lost more than 20%. No other drug has come close to producing this level of weight loss - this really is a gamechanger. For the first time, people can achieve through drugs what was only possible through weight-loss surgery."

https://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/2021-02/ucl-df021021.php

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'Gamechanger' drug for treating obesity cuts body weight by 20% (Original Post) Klaralven Feb 2021 OP
I read 15% and even that was awesome soothsayer Feb 2021 #1
Sign me up. dem4decades Feb 2021 #2
Where do I get some??? CaliforniaPeggy Feb 2021 #3
They never say the side affects marlakay Feb 2021 #4
The article does discuss side effects. CaliforniaPeggy Feb 2021 #6
Sudden explosive diarrhea, loss of limbs, death theneworiginal Feb 2021 #19
Mmm, so about like Olestra? Rstrstx Feb 2021 #25
My favorite pharmaceutical ad wording(not this drug) is: phylny Feb 2021 #31
I take one drug with a black box warning. Politicub Feb 2021 #35
Exactly. LakeArenal Feb 2021 #7
True Cirque du So-What Feb 2021 #8
It's been in trials for years DrToast Feb 2021 #27
Yes, the article does touch on the measured side effects. LanternWaste Feb 2021 #12
Remember phen-phen? Heart damage as I recall. I think I'll just stick with keto Dream Girl Feb 2021 #15
Yep the natural way is always better Tribetime Feb 2021 #21
Some are listed here in the Wikipedia entry Mike 03 Feb 2021 #17
Is it going to keep people from eating Big Macs and fried chicken with double helpings of Ferrets are Cool Feb 2021 #5
Its all in the mind marlakay Feb 2021 #10
Again, sheer ignorance.You don't know wat you're taking about. But nice fat shaming tag team Dream Girl Feb 2021 #24
I wasn't fat shaming and I am on a diet marlakay Feb 2021 #29
What an ignorant comment. Dream Girl Feb 2021 #22
Again... treating the hunger, not the metabolism. WarGamer Feb 2021 #9
I feel ya! Lunabell Feb 2021 #13
It's my curse... WarGamer Feb 2021 #16
Isn't That What Methadrine Did? ProfessorGAC Feb 2021 #23
That's not the current direction of the research WarGamer Feb 2021 #28
I Know ProfessorGAC Feb 2021 #30
agreed, I Hate the feeling I get from Coffee, etc... WarGamer Feb 2021 #37
It's already on the market for type 2 diabetes csziggy Feb 2021 #11
Remember phen-fen? I wouldn't trust this until it had been used widely for a couple of years. tblue37 Feb 2021 #14
brand names Ozempic and Rybelsus, fyi nt intrepidity Feb 2021 #18
I'm using Ozempic and I sure haven't lost that much weight. phylny Feb 2021 #32
Semaglutide is currently sold under brands Ozempic and Rybelsus. KewlKat Feb 2021 #20
Are the side effects worth it? There are always negative side effects. NurseJackie Feb 2021 #26
In the 80's gldstwmn Feb 2021 #33
How long do they keep it off? WhiskeyGrinder Feb 2021 #34
I remember Phen-fen worked superbly... except for that heart problem thingy Hekate Feb 2021 #36
Drugs will never be a substitute for eating better and exercising Tarc Feb 2021 #38

CaliforniaPeggy

(149,615 posts)
6. The article does discuss side effects.
Thu Feb 11, 2021, 05:12 PM
Feb 2021

Also, this drug has been successfully used in the treatment of Type 2 Diabetes for some time, although at lower levels than for the obesity problem.

theneworiginal

(302 posts)
19. Sudden explosive diarrhea, loss of limbs, death
Thu Feb 11, 2021, 05:31 PM
Feb 2021

kidding. But you know they will be listed on commercial with happy music and puppies.

phylny

(8,380 posts)
31. My favorite pharmaceutical ad wording(not this drug) is:
Thu Feb 11, 2021, 09:23 PM
Feb 2021

"Fatal events have happened."

Say WHAT?

I'd be interested in this drug.

Politicub

(12,165 posts)
35. I take one drug with a black box warning.
Thu Feb 11, 2021, 09:29 PM
Feb 2021

I'm all meh about it, yet a hypochondriac about everything else.

I used to be on two at the same time.

I was on Saxenda, which is the first of these glutide-based diabetes/weight loss injections, and it worked really well. The insurance stopped paying for it, and I can't afford the $1,200 cost per month. I've gained back the weight I lost while on it.

Saxenda worked by making food seem unappetizing.

The black-box warning for Saxenda was that it caused thyroid tumors in laboratory mice. I'm not sure if that has actually happened to a person, though.


DrToast

(6,414 posts)
27. It's been in trials for years
Thu Feb 11, 2021, 06:31 PM
Feb 2021

Novo Nordisk filed a New Drug Application with the FDA in December. It will likely be approved sometime this summer.

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
12. Yes, the article does touch on the measured side effects.
Thu Feb 11, 2021, 05:20 PM
Feb 2021

"side effects from the drug including mild-to-moderate nausea and diarrhoea that were transient and generally resolved without permanent discontinuation from the study."

 

Dream Girl

(5,111 posts)
15. Remember phen-phen? Heart damage as I recall. I think I'll just stick with keto
Thu Feb 11, 2021, 05:23 PM
Feb 2021

No appetite in ketosis

Ferrets are Cool

(21,106 posts)
5. Is it going to keep people from eating Big Macs and fried chicken with double helpings of
Thu Feb 11, 2021, 05:10 PM
Feb 2021

mash taters? You have to want to lose weight for it to happen...and even then it sometimes takes a miracle pill like this to help.

marlakay

(11,465 posts)
10. Its all in the mind
Thu Feb 11, 2021, 05:16 PM
Feb 2021

Like you said want it, that takes thought in a direction different than where you are.

 

Dream Girl

(5,111 posts)
24. Again, sheer ignorance.You don't know wat you're taking about. But nice fat shaming tag team
Thu Feb 11, 2021, 06:03 PM
Feb 2021

You got going there. I struggled to stay a normal weight until I found a way of eating that works for me. I believe that many obese people have wrecked metabolisms for sugar and starch in their diets. It is NOT their fault! By limiting carbs and sugar, I’ve been able to maintain a healthy weight and my numbers are great! I’ve eaten this way for 20+ years. For me, carbs and sugar stimulated my appetite I was always hungry. Nowadays, I have to ask myself, “did I have lunch?” I can literally forget to eat.

marlakay

(11,465 posts)
29. I wasn't fat shaming and I am on a diet
Thu Feb 11, 2021, 06:42 PM
Feb 2021

Right now myself for my blood pressure. When I said mind and thought what I meant was we have to change how we think about food to be able to eat in a healthy way.

And sugar and carbs are the thing that causes me the most problems also but if I think about it all in a negative way it makes it harder, thats all I meant.

WarGamer

(12,441 posts)
9. Again... treating the hunger, not the metabolism.
Thu Feb 11, 2021, 05:16 PM
Feb 2021

The real breakthrough will be giving everyone the metabolism of the guy we all know who can eat pizza and drink real Coke as much as he wants and has never weighed more than a buck and a half.

Lunabell

(6,080 posts)
13. I feel ya!
Thu Feb 11, 2021, 05:21 PM
Feb 2021

I have a friend who eats like a damned horse, lounges without exercising and weighs all of 120 lbs. Yes, I am envious.lol.

WarGamer

(12,441 posts)
16. It's my curse...
Thu Feb 11, 2021, 05:23 PM
Feb 2021

I've always said that if Heaven exists... we'll all have figures like Zach Efron and Emily Ratajkowski and all 3 meals a day will consist of Pizza, Krispy Kremes and finish the day off with McConnells Ice Cream (100x better than that B&J crap)

EDIT: And every breakfast would be Biscuits and Gravy, Sausage, Scrambled Eggs, Pancakes and Hashed Browns.

ProfessorGAC

(65,031 posts)
23. Isn't That What Methadrine Did?
Thu Feb 11, 2021, 05:56 PM
Feb 2021

Until people got hooked on it or had heart palpitations, it was a great weight loss drug.
Raised that metabolism right up there.
It is a great idea, but the early approach was a poor one.

WarGamer

(12,441 posts)
28. That's not the current direction of the research
Thu Feb 11, 2021, 06:39 PM
Feb 2021

They think it's the bacterial composition of the gut that influences weight control...

People who gain weight "looking" at a Pizza have the wrong or insufficient bacteria.

ProfessorGAC

(65,031 posts)
30. I Know
Thu Feb 11, 2021, 08:58 PM
Feb 2021

Didn't mean to imply they were pursuing a similar mechanism.
Actually, I was reinforcing your point about raising metabolism because that's the very reason why amphetamines worked for weight loss.
Hopefully, this mechanism they're pursuing lacks those pernicious side-effects.

csziggy

(34,136 posts)
11. It's already on the market for type 2 diabetes
Thu Feb 11, 2021, 05:18 PM
Feb 2021

At a lower dose of 1 mg, compared to the 2.4 mg for weight loss.

At that dose side effects are:

Nausea, vomiting, abdominal pain, loss of appetite, diarrhea, or constipation may occur. Nausea usually lessens as you continue to take semaglutide.

{SNIP}

Semaglutide has rarely caused a very serious (possibly fatal) disease of the pancreas (pancreatitis). Get medical help right away if you develop symptoms of pancreatitis, including: severe stomach/abdominal pain, nausea/vomiting that doesn't stop.

https://www.webmd.com/drugs/2/drug-178018/semaglutide-oral/details

KewlKat

(5,624 posts)
20. Semaglutide is currently sold under brands Ozempic and Rybelsus.
Thu Feb 11, 2021, 05:36 PM
Feb 2021

Semaglutide, sold under the brand names Ozempic and Rybelsus, is an anti-diabetic medication used for the treatment of type 2 diabetes. Semaglutide acts like human glucagon-like peptide-1 so that it increases insulin secretion, thereby increasing sugar metabolism.

In conjunction with lifestyle management, once-weekly semaglutide helped people with obesity lose a significant amount of weight, the Semaglutide Treatment Effect in People with Obesity (STEP) 1 study found.

In a double-blind trial of 1,961 adults with a body mass index (BMI) of 30 or higher, adults on 2.4 mg of weekly semaglutide lost an average 14.9% of baseline body weight after 68 weeks of treatment versus only 2.4% for a group on placebo and lifestyle intervention alone (treatment difference -12.4%, 95% CI -13.4 to -11.5, P

gldstwmn

(4,575 posts)
33. In the 80's
Thu Feb 11, 2021, 09:27 PM
Feb 2021

it was called coke. Not only did you lose weight but your mind eventually went with it.
Seriously though I hope this helps folks.

Hekate

(90,681 posts)
36. I remember Phen-fen worked superbly... except for that heart problem thingy
Thu Feb 11, 2021, 09:55 PM
Feb 2021

So, let’s wait and see.

Tarc

(10,476 posts)
38. Drugs will never be a substitute for eating better and exercising
Thu Feb 11, 2021, 10:42 PM
Feb 2021

People are desperate for shortcuts.

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