What Wasn't Said At The Trial About Jan 6th....

[global1]

Tr**p had at least two people close to him that were on the record for having him declare 'martial law'.

That was Flynn and the My Pillow guy Lindell. Now there were probably more of his inner core that supported
'martial law' - but these two guys were on the record. Each was either quoted or were found out (Lindell's note) that they supported 'martial law'.

Nothing was mentioned about this by the House Managers - but - could that be the reason that Tr**p didn't act fast to put a stop to the ransacking of the Capitol?

Was he hoping that Pence, Pelosi, Schumer or some other House Rep or Senator - would get attacked; injured or killed - so he could declare 'martial law'?

That would have put a stop to the certifying of the electoral votes/election. They wouldn't be able to reconvene that evening to finish the job - like they did. This could have effectively shut down the whole enchilada and Tr**p could have remained in the presidency.

Any thoughts?

We got to get to the bottom of this whole 'insurrection'. The House Managers laid out a very tight case to convict Tr**p - with the material that they used.

But I'm not convinced that we really know the whole story yet. What we do know is already devastating but I'm worried about what we didn't learn as to why there was this attempted coup.

[dchill]

1. At the time, I feared that would be next.

[Irish_Dem]

2. Yes that certainly has been a reasonable theory.

Trump wanted deaths and destruction so he could declare marital law.
And remain president.

I don't think the managers could prove this or they would have presented the evidence.

[global1]

5. The People That Did Get Attacked, Injured Or Killed Were.....

collateral damage and probably expected in such an insurrection. However, what would have shut down the process and be the trigger to declare 'martial law' would be that a Senator or House Rep be taken down.

[Irish_Dem]

6. Some are saying that the goal was to kill Pence so Trump could appoint another VP who would

do his bidding and stop the EC certification.

And also declare marital law.

Yes there would have to be some MOC killed to make it very very serious.
And scare the rest of congress into staying away from the capitol.

It all sounds so far fetched in some ways but that is what the puzzle pieces look like to me.

[global1]

8. Desperate People Do Desperate Things.....

This was Tr**p last shot. This insurrection was his Hail Mary pass.

Fortunate for us - it didn't work for him.

[Irish_Dem]

9. Exactly, so he pulled out all the stops.

It is only pure luck and the training of the Capitol Police which prevented the plan from working.

[sfstaxprep]

3. You Have A Good Theory

It is probably a strong possibility that you are correct.

Unfortunately, we'll never know. I expect that we'll be moving on from this by next week. I'm not even counting on an investigation by the DOJ, that many here seem to believe is realistic to expect.

[dhol82]

4. Interesting thought.

Sounds sadly plausible.

[Amaryllis]

7. I have thought that since it happened. REmember he also made those changes at top level DOD

positions in Dec. and January and it was the DOD who didn't authorize National Guard being sent in when MD gov requested it.

[stillcool]

10. There are some serious players behind...

the scene. Someone had to have the knowledge and connections to direct the Capitol Police how to respond, direct the frigging Pentagon how to respond, and stop all the other police departments that tried to get permission to help.

[Maraya1969]

11. Do you think his plan was to just raise chaos and destruction for fun?

There has to be an ultimate reason for it all and that was for him to stay in power. And he has always wanted to be a dictator. I can absolutely believe that was his plan.

Remember he started months before the election telling all his supporters that it was fraudulent. I be his internal polling was very bad and he was starting to set up a fight about the election first. And when that didn't work he wanted to cause enough havoc to be able to demand control in the name of "protecting the people"


We are a very lucky people to have withered this storm. If he isn't convicted then I surely hope he is indicted so bad that he won't be able to run again. The country cannot afford another Trump.

[Boomerproud]

13. As for the whole truth and real justice?

I'm done holding my breath.

[OneGrassRoot]

12. I'm hoping criminal charges...

will be brought against all co-conspirators and the truth will come out in a criminal court.

[moondust]

14. The Reichstag Fire Decree

remained in force for the duration of the Nazi era, allowing Hitler to rule under what amounted to martial law. Along with the Enabling Act, it formed the legal basis for Hitler's dictatorship.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reichstag_Fire_Decree#Effects

So who was waiting in the wings with the Capitol Insurrection Decree ready to go once enough violence had developed to convince enough Trump supporters that it was necessary to "restore order"? Flynn? Lindell?