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demmiblue

(36,841 posts)
Fri Feb 12, 2021, 11:47 AM Feb 2021

""I want to restore the 60-vote threshold for all elements of the Senate's work," Senator Sinema..."



The most influential Democrat you never hear from

Kyrsten Sinema's defense of the Senate’s age-old rules is likely to frustrate progressives eager to use every tool at their disposal to advance their priorities.

Kyrsten Sinema doesn’t often make big policy pronouncements. But when she does, Democrats had better listen.

Take the $15 hourly minimum wage that Democratic leaders want to add to a $1.9 trillion coronavirus relief package. Sinema, who became the first Democrat to win a Senate race in once deep-red Arizona in 30 years, is crystal clear: She’s against including it.

“What’s important is whether or not it’s directly related to short-term Covid relief. And if it’s not, then I am not going to support it in this legislation,” Sinema said in a telephone interview this week. “The minimum wage provision is not appropriate for the reconciliation process. It is not a budget item. And it shouldn’t be in there.”

Sinema’s opposition is a blow to Democrats’ hopes of bumping up the federal minimum wage through budget reconciliation to avoid a GOP filibuster, complicating follow-through on a campaign promise from Democrats and President Joe Biden. And her defense of the Senate’s age-old rules is likely to frustrate progressives eager to use every tool at their disposal to advance their priorities in a Senate where one wayward Democrat can mean the difference between a policy breakthrough and utter failure.

https://www.politico.com/news/2021/02/12/kyrsten-sinema-democrats-468768
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""I want to restore the 60-vote threshold for all elements of the Senate's work," Senator Sinema..." (Original Post) demmiblue Feb 2021 OP
How democratic of her... Wounded Bear Feb 2021 #1
Minority rule, in a rigged mzmolly Feb 2021 #4
When can we primary her? lagomorph777 Feb 2021 #5
When we have a solid majority in the Senate... JHB Feb 2021 #11
SO, never Bettie Mar 2021 #40
Are you from AZ? Do you know anything about her?? Pisces Feb 2021 #12
No, and yes. lagomorph777 Feb 2021 #13
Are you serious. She hax to run in 22 and she barely won. In case you didn't notice Demsrule86 Feb 2021 #19
Bummer. I guess we'll have to remove a few QPublicans to compensate. lagomorph777 Feb 2021 #20
Sen. Kelly has to run for a full term in 2022, not Sen. Sinema. All the more reason why I am liskddksil Feb 2021 #22
But if Dems pick up enough Senate seats in 2022, Sinema can be exiled Fiendish Thingy Feb 2021 #26
PRIMARY HER NOW !!!!! trueblue2007 Feb 2021 #29
she doesn't run again for almost 4 years Celerity Mar 2021 #39
well then, remove heri'm a liberal. not a conservatite "demo" Trueblue1968 Mar 2021 #41
get her outta the Senate. Trueblue1968 Mar 2021 #42
After Republicans packed the courts, she wants to allow Rand Paul to filibuster Biden's noms n/t servermsh Feb 2021 #2
I firmly disagree with her position. irisblue Feb 2021 #3
i can't write my opinion, i would get in trouble. Trueblue1968 Mar 2021 #43
Oh... 2naSalit Feb 2021 #6
In other words, she wants nothing to get done unless it's what Republicans want. Autumn Feb 2021 #7
By Jove, I think you've got it! Kid Berwyn Feb 2021 #16
At least she doesn't have an "I" next to her name. Right? Hassin Bin Sober Feb 2021 #30
Right. But the best we can do Autumn Feb 2021 #36
I seem to recall her being an outspoken proponent of this while the Republicans held the majority DFW Feb 2021 #8
It's come to that hasn't it? Hard not to become cynical about these "positions." harumph Feb 2021 #15
She should be informed of the history of the filibuster DeminPennswoods Feb 2021 #9
she is a true DINO,,,, I will support any Dem that Primaries her. n/t KarenS Feb 2021 #10
Post removed Post removed Feb 2021 #14
The press needs to ask her why she doesn't want bills to pass/work to get done if she supports this. LonePirate Feb 2021 #17
So, this is what the people of Arizona are concerned about? Is this what she hears when she holds jalan48 Feb 2021 #18
+1 "Save the Filibuster!" It's hardly a rallying cry. lagomorph777 Feb 2021 #21
My guess is that she wants to say the right things but not actually have to deliver when it comes to jalan48 Feb 2021 #24
It isn't a restoration dsc Feb 2021 #23
Make her vote be the only vote blocking Biden's agenda- then put up billboards in AZ Fiendish Thingy Feb 2021 #25
The Senate is already tilted for Republicans. Montana gets two Senators, California gets two. Midnight Writer Feb 2021 #27
She'll do what a majority of her constituents want maxrandb Feb 2021 #28
Yeah, time to crank up the campaign in AZ...nt Wounded Bear Feb 2021 #31
There's nothing else like an Anti-Democratic Democrat. TeamPooka Feb 2021 #32
How much of a Democrat is she.. ananda Feb 2021 #33
"Democrats had better listen." StarfishSaver Feb 2021 #34
What a huge disappointment she's become vercetti2021 Feb 2021 #35
A couple of past tweets: demmiblue Feb 2021 #37
Stupid! I'm going to call her racist too considering the history of the filibuster. LiberalFighter Feb 2021 #38

Wounded Bear

(58,646 posts)
1. How democratic of her...
Fri Feb 12, 2021, 11:49 AM
Feb 2021


Requiring super majorities to do everything is NOT democracy. It is minority rule.

Bettie

(16,089 posts)
40. SO, never
Tue Mar 2, 2021, 10:05 AM
Mar 2021

and, if everything required a 60 vote threshold, there would never be another piece of legislation passed.

lagomorph777

(30,613 posts)
13. No, and yes.
Fri Feb 12, 2021, 12:07 PM
Feb 2021

I guess we have to be patient, but we need somebody more reliable. Can't let AZ ruin it for everybody else.

Demsrule86

(68,551 posts)
19. Are you serious. She hax to run in 22 and she barely won. In case you didn't notice
Fri Feb 12, 2021, 12:42 PM
Feb 2021

Arizona is a bit of a mess.

 

liskddksil

(2,753 posts)
22. Sen. Kelly has to run for a full term in 2022, not Sen. Sinema. All the more reason why I am
Fri Feb 12, 2021, 12:48 PM
Feb 2021

confused as to why Sen. Sinema seems to be doing everything to gum up the works when she is safe for another 4 years, which is a lifetime in politics.

Fiendish Thingy

(15,585 posts)
26. But if Dems pick up enough Senate seats in 2022, Sinema can be exiled
Fri Feb 12, 2021, 12:57 PM
Feb 2021

Sent to the Steve King club, stripped of all committee assignments, or if enough Dems pick up seats, removed from the caucus.

If she obstructs Biden’s agenda, this term should be her last.

DFW

(54,341 posts)
8. I seem to recall her being an outspoken proponent of this while the Republicans held the majority
Fri Feb 12, 2021, 11:56 AM
Feb 2021

Umm, oops, no I don't.

Is she looking for headlines, or just power? Or is she just waiting for the right moment to switch parties? Maybe someone has a villa in Scottsdale for sale at $2 million under market under the "right" circumstances?

DeminPennswoods

(15,278 posts)
9. She should be informed of the history of the filibuster
Fri Feb 12, 2021, 12:00 PM
Feb 2021

as it was used to block civil rights. The same civil rights that have expanded over the years to include sexual orientation. Further, in America, it's majority rules, not "super majority" rules.

Response to demmiblue (Original post)

jalan48

(13,859 posts)
18. So, this is what the people of Arizona are concerned about? Is this what she hears when she holds
Fri Feb 12, 2021, 12:40 PM
Feb 2021

town halls or receives communications from the voters? In the middle of a pandemic with millions out of work the good people of Arizona are screaming "Restore the 60 vote threshold!!"? Who is she really representing here?

jalan48

(13,859 posts)
24. My guess is that she wants to say the right things but not actually have to deliver when it comes to
Fri Feb 12, 2021, 12:50 PM
Feb 2021

voting. Darn, I supported that bill but we just couldn't get the 60 votes we needed because those bad Republicans blocked it.

dsc

(52,155 posts)
23. It isn't a restoration
Fri Feb 12, 2021, 12:49 PM
Feb 2021

We used to pass laws and approve even controversial appointees with simple majorities. And no, I am not talking about when we used to use quill pens and burn whale oil. In 1991, Clarence Thomas got on the Supreme Court with 52 votes. No one thought filibustering his nomination was a good idea. Similarly, Roberta Actenberg was approved on a majority vote, even Helms didn't think filibustering a nominee was acceptable behavior. The assault weapons ban passed in 1994 with less than 60 votes. Filibusters weren't used anything like they are now. It didn't take 60 votes to name a GD postoffice.

Fiendish Thingy

(15,585 posts)
25. Make her vote be the only vote blocking Biden's agenda- then put up billboards in AZ
Fri Feb 12, 2021, 12:55 PM
Feb 2021

VP Harris needs to schedule some interviews with local AZ media.

Take the gloves off.

No mercy.

Midnight Writer

(21,745 posts)
27. The Senate is already tilted for Republicans. Montana gets two Senators, California gets two.
Fri Feb 12, 2021, 04:22 PM
Feb 2021

That alone protects the minority party in the Senate.

Adding the 60 vote threshold means the party that got tens of millions fewer votes controls the Senate.

That is nonsense.

maxrandb

(15,320 posts)
28. She'll do what a majority of her constituents want
Fri Feb 12, 2021, 04:31 PM
Feb 2021

That's what needs to happen. Arizona just elected a Democratic President and a Democratic Senator in 2020. Kelly's race wasn't even that close.

Does she think she beats a Retrumplican without massive support from Democrats?

If enough people...and I am talking Arizona voters, contact her and push her, she'll listen to them.

vercetti2021

(10,156 posts)
35. What a huge disappointment she's become
Fri Feb 12, 2021, 04:51 PM
Feb 2021

2018 I was actually very happy she had won but it's just turning into a fucking joke. Her and Manchin need to figure out they don't work just for their states, they work for all of us God dammit

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