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Democrats_win

(6,539 posts)
Fri Feb 12, 2021, 08:04 PM Feb 2021

It's Consequence Culture not cancel culture.

Alex Winter (from Bill & Ted's Excellent Adventure) wrote on the internet that it's "consequence culture."

From another website
https://www.hercampus.com/school/msu/why-fallacy-cancel-culture-so-toxic-and-no-founding-fathers-aren-t-getting-cancelled

"...cancel culture does not exist. It’s a logical fallacy perpetuated by people who would like to keep making excuses for ignorant and hurtful behavior. In the twenty-first century, people are held responsible for their actions in the public sphere the way they were never previously held...."

Also from that website:

" we have a responsibility to hold each other accountable, because nobody is above treating other people with dignity and respect. When you’re about to moan and groan because your favorite singer/actor/writer/athlete got cancelled, stop for a second and ask yourself what people’s reaction would’ve been if you’d said or did what they said or did. If you think that you wouldn’t have gotten away with it, then they probably shouldn’t get away with it either."


You may have heard the Trump lawyer today bringing up the term cancel culture (slinging several phrases against Democrats-- a practice called gish gallop--as if an ad hominem attack would help). It's time we set the record straight on this. If there is any other phrase that people use against us, look it up on the internet as I did using "cancel culture fallacy." People smarter than me have probably already written about it.

BTW. Thanks so much to the kind person who gave me a heart! Happy Valentines Day!



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It's Consequence Culture not cancel culture. (Original Post) Democrats_win Feb 2021 OP
Actually cancel culture does exist d_r Feb 2021 #1
I only partially agree Silent3 Feb 2021 #2
I absolutely HATE that term. bamagal62 Feb 2021 #3

d_r

(6,907 posts)
1. Actually cancel culture does exist
Fri Feb 12, 2021, 08:28 PM
Feb 2021

It existed in the 1920s when the daughters of the confederacy were so embarrassed by what their grandfather's did that they put up confederate statues every where as if they were not traitors. It is exists when somebody flies a rebel flag and says it is about their history.

Silent3

(15,148 posts)
2. I only partially agree
Fri Feb 12, 2021, 08:35 PM
Feb 2021

I think there definitely is such a thing as overreaction, such a thing as an excessively zero-tolerance attitude, and such a thing as consequences that are too severe for the trespass committed.

Of course, a lot of consequences are quite richly deserved as well, and people who have lucked into fame and fortune shouldn't act as if they're entitled for that fame and fortune to continue.

I bet a whole lot of us here wish Al Franken hadn't been "cancelled", and would love to see him back.

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