Get Trump gone. Out of the news. I don't like calling witnesses.

[underpants]

This could take forever. Depositions? The rules have to be negotiated. The expert on CNN from Tulane is an outstanding resource.

Remember who likes obstruction.

Will this change anyone’s opinion on Trump?
Will it change the opinion of this impeachment by anyone who actually watched it’s?
The last and bottom line is - Will this really turn 17 Republican Senators?

Get this over. Get to virus stimulus.

[bigtree]

1. it'll take about a week

...and republicans will be loath to drag it out.

[Demsrule86]

24. No the GOP wants to drag it out to stop the Covid bill...make no mistake. I had hoped

Democrats would get in and get out...there will be no conviction...it needs to end.

[bigtree]

25. that's a bluff

...there's not ONE witness who will help Trump or the GQP.

[madaboutharry]

2. Completely disagree.

This will not drag on. It will most likely take another week. We are talking about our Republic. It is necessary that all the information available is written into the historical record.

[soothsayer]

4. This

[onecaliberal]

17. Exactly. The public needs to know that when the trump mob broke into the capitol

Trump was tweeting that pence did not have the courage to do something he had no authority to do. Putting pence in further danger. All this happened AFTER the secret service spirited pence and his wife and family away for safety. After the mob stormed the capitol saying, “hang mike pence”. Trump was mad and he didn’t give a shit who was killed.

[PatSeg]

18. I agree

It is important that this is done well, as it will become part of history. This is not just a trial of a former president, it is the documentation of an attempted coup of our democracy. We all know how republicans like to gloss over certain aspect of our history or sometimes even rewrite it. This trial will become part of the permanent record and needs to be thorough, accurate, and as complete as possible.

[Demsrule86]

35. It is necessary that we get the Covid bill out.

People will begin to lose unemployment in March...and there goes the midterms and maybe 24.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

3. OTOH

OTOH the exercise is to prove if the Trumplicans are ever granted power again they will never voluntarily give it up.

[servermsh]

5. This post is ridiculous!

Both the Senate and House will be recessing for a week! The COVID bill isn't ready for a vote!

And this witness process is TREMENDOUSLY embarrassing for Republicans!

[DemocratSinceBirth]

8. underpants is a great poster but I am not with him on this one.

[underpants]

10. Okay I wasn't aware of the recess.

I’m leaving this up if for nothing else simply for the kind of info and insight you gave. Thanks.

[PatSeg]

21. It made for a good discussion

[underpants]

33. I'm liking it.

van der Veen reminds me of

Link to tweet

?s=21

[PatSeg]

34. Ha, ha, ha!!!

But not as good looking!!!

[BusyBeingBest]

6. Need to get it all on the record. We knew before this started that he would be acquitted.

We know the GOP crazies don't care. But the proceedings must be done and history has to be recorded.

[jimfields33]

7. I thought by now he wouldn't be the center of the universe

But it seems the interest to discuss him all over the media is strong. I’m sick of it. Didn’t we vote him out? Why is he 90 percent of the discussions months later? Yes impeachment this week, but the previous 10 weeks were still trump trump trump. Ugh.

[leftstreet]

26. +1

Looking at news headlines you'd think there's no pandemic

[Demsrule86]

36. I agree...this is bad for us. I know the need for vengeance against Trump is strong on our side. I

hate the guy but keeping him in the news and making it look like we put going after him before we send help to the people is a bad bad idea. The GOP is not embarrassed and won't convict...they want to string us along.

[Ninga]

9. Completely disagree. As of this moment, Senators are negotiating and there will be a voted

on procedure. We need as much for the historical record as available, regardless of the outcome.

[Demsrule86]

37. What possible good will that do us if it causes us to lose in 22 and 24 ...no matter what it will

all come out. But Biden ran on unifying the country and sending help...this is a bad idea.

[berni_mccoy]

11. This is VERY good. It will force Republicans to tell the truth

There will be testimony under oath. And the ones lying know that there are Republicans who will tell the truth under oath. This will get to the bottom of any and all questions of Trump’s motive and state of mind. They are upset because they know this to be true.

[Demsrule86]

38. They are not upset. They want witnesses to kill time...no matter what they won't convict.

[choie]

12. No

Our democracy is in peril. We knew that he would be acquitted - there was not a chance in hell of getting 17 senators to care more about their country than their political asses. The people have the right to know what happened on that day and the days leading up to it and it must be put on the record. AND they have the right to know how despicable the republicans are in the face or truth telling witnesses. This was a fucking insurrection.

[Demsrule86]

39. The people other than strong partisans like us would prefer the Covid bill be passed and help sent

to the American people. We will pay a political price for this and without conviction, why?

[JonLP24]

13. I trust the impeachment management's judgment on whatever they decide to do

[Peacetrain]

14. I am so split about this.. I don't know what the right move is

[BeyondGeography]

15. We can always pass a bill

We can’t always put the spotlight on a tyrant and his accomplices.

This is about more than impeachment. It’s about our brand vs. theirs, the so-called law-and-order party. This impeachment trial is the biggest political messaging biggest gift to the Democratic Party in our lifetime. Stop wringing your hands and let it run its full course.

[Demsrule86]

41. The bill must passed in early March at the latest because unemployment will run out again and

that is way more important to most people than holding Trump accountable when he is now gone. I hate Trump but this is not politically a good idea.

[BeyondGeography]

47. Only one in four eligible Americans are able to collect their unemployment benefits

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/02/11/opinion/unemployment-insurance-biden.html

The problem is at the state level. The Biden Administration is on it, but it will take forever to fix. The relief bill won’t make a damn bit of difference for most unemployed people unfortunately, apart from the one-time check which is of course important.

But the ship has sailed anyway; no witnesses.

[keithbvadu2]

16. It's not just trump. Get some of them on record, under oath.

It's not just trump.

Get some of them on record, under oath.

Especially McCarthy.

Even Lindsey G.

[OnDoutside]

20. Yes Graham called into Georgia too.

[Demsrule86]

45. And how would that change things exactly? In fact, it might make it impossible to have

a criminal trial in Georgia.

[OnDoutside]

19. As long as Biden's agenda isn't interfered with, it might be ok. If they

get the key people under oath, let's see those Republicans vote to acquit then.

[Demsrule86]

42. If we call witnesses, the GOP will call witnesses. The entire point is to make the Covid bill late

and make voters mad.

[OnDoutside]

48. It's a moot point, but for GOP witnesses to be called, they needed 51 votes which they were not

going to get.

[Baclava]

22. This better not delay these people getting the Covid Bill passed, where's my damn $1400 check?

[underpants]

31. I think a lot of people will have that reaction

and it will be fed and provided more fuel to burn.

[Demsrule86]

43. That is exactly the problem.

[yardwork]

23. Nobody seems to know whether this is good or bad for our democracy.

Like you, I think there's a good chance the Republicans will turn this against us. They have no ethics. All the Republican witnesses will lie.

[Silent3]

27. Totally disagree

Even if we still don't eke out a conviction, which I know is very unlikely, the record against those who vote to acquit Trump must be as damning as possible. We must make Republicans who support Trump pay the highest price possible for that support.

We have a strong facsist, anti-small-d-democratic movement in this country, and that's a bigger threat than some delay in COVID relief.

The Senate is still working on COVID relief in parallel anyway.

Besides, with the investigation going forward in Georgia right now, and no doubt other legal actions against Trump, you're not going to get your wish about getting Trump out of the news any time soon.

[PlanetBev]

28. Anything that keeps Trump pissed off

Is fine with me. The angrier he gets, the more stupid shit he does. The more stupid shit he does, the greater damage he does to the Republicans.

[cwydro]

29. Yeah, I hear ya.

I’m of two minds about this.

[lettucebe]

30. There will be no depositions. This isn't a civil trial. Lawyers don't understand procedure obviously

Perhaps hiring a personal injury lawyer wasn't such a brilliant move.

[roamer65]

32. This should be a truth commission.

They can pass other legislation and find the truth as well.

Call witnesses!

[coti]

40. Now we just want to quit impeachment.

This is rationalization.

[Demsrule86]

44. No, we won't get a conviction...and millions of voters will be pissed when this drags on. If we call

witnesses so will the GOP...the Covid money will be delayed and folks will lose unemployment which is also in that bill. This would be a political disaster for us, and I don't know if we would recover in time for the midterms. One should always consider political reality in all decisions...blinded by hatred of Trump (which I share), I fear we have made a mistake.

[coti]

46. Yeah, this is definitely turning into rationalization.

What happened to holding Trump accountable in every way we can?