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Really the impeachment show was a waste of time, nothing will come of it, trump gives the world (Original Post) Beachnutt Feb 2021 OP
Nope. It was essential and is now part of the historic record. Forever. Squinch Feb 2021 #1
Do you think trump or his ilk give a crap about historic record ? Beachnutt Feb 2021 #7
Do you think I give a crap about what trump and his ilk give a crap about? This isn't Squinch Feb 2021 #24
+1000. They're all in trouble anyway. There was no win here for them. Hortensis Feb 2021 #27
if the rule of law llashram Feb 2021 #11
Do you find any value in the fact that we preserved the record for the Dred Scott hearings? Squinch Feb 2021 #25
Hat did you expect to happen? Dream Girl Feb 2021 #2
Bull. The public got to see the truth laid out. Next will come a commission to sinkingfeeling Feb 2021 #3
Not if they ship all the evidence over to the DOJ mr_lebowski Feb 2021 #4
The dems gave the world the real story... lame54 Feb 2021 #5
Grow up. johnp3907 Feb 2021 #6
I give you what trump just gave the world a big Beachnutt Feb 2021 #12
So on to "fool" ignore with you! johnp3907 Feb 2021 #14
This is going to breakup the Repuke party. roamer65 Feb 2021 #8
Stop Tree-Hugger Feb 2021 #9
Au contraire. We always knew what the outcome would be; but now The Velveteen Ocelot Feb 2021 #10
I think it was very necessary - years from now the real truth will be obvious. Trump is a 21st walkingman Feb 2021 #13
The record of this trial will be handed down for generations frazzled Feb 2021 #15
it's not a waste of time to stand up and say we're not going to stand for this fishwax Feb 2021 #16
If Democrats had not impeached they would have been derelict in their duties ecstatic Feb 2021 #17
+1000 lindysalsagal Feb 2021 #21
Witnesses would have made for great drama blogslut Feb 2021 #18
100 % WRONG Ferrets are Cool Feb 2021 #19
This cost the gqp many swing voters, for years to come. lindysalsagal Feb 2021 #20
History will remember him DemocratSinceBirth Feb 2021 #22
I just don't think this historical record is a waste of time. cry baby Feb 2021 #23
Did you...except a conviction? ismnotwasm Feb 2021 #26
I don't think anybody thought it would actually lead to an impeachment. Afromania Feb 2021 #28
Just stop. The American people saw what happened in depth. we can do it Feb 2021 #29

Beachnutt

(7,311 posts)
7. Do you think trump or his ilk give a crap about historic record ?
Sat Feb 13, 2021, 02:45 PM
Feb 2021

Doesn't mean shit.
He got away with murder again

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
27. +1000. They're all in trouble anyway. There was no win here for them.
Sat Feb 13, 2021, 03:09 PM
Feb 2021

And no loss for us by performing our duty, and shoving it up their sorry asses in the process.

llashram

(6,265 posts)
11. if the rule of law
Sat Feb 13, 2021, 02:47 PM
Feb 2021

means nothing to the Republicans. If the death of people killed by trump insurrectionists and the death of one of their own mean nothing. Why would a Congressional record be something they or any republican alive now and "forever" care about? Getting their cult leader from under the gun and back in power somehow is all these trump cultists want.

Squinch

(50,942 posts)
25. Do you find any value in the fact that we preserved the record for the Dred Scott hearings?
Sat Feb 13, 2021, 03:04 PM
Feb 2021

Should we throw out the documents from Plessy v. Ferguson? Should those fights not have been fought, even though the right side lost?

Do you think the vileness of those decisions and the documentation and publication of countless other proceedings had no effect on what came after them?

We're a hundred and fifty years from the impeachment of Andrew Johnson. Do you think he was a good guy?

sinkingfeeling

(51,444 posts)
3. Bull. The public got to see the truth laid out. Next will come a commission to
Sat Feb 13, 2021, 02:44 PM
Feb 2021

investigate for criminal charges.

Tree-Hugger

(3,370 posts)
9. Stop
Sat Feb 13, 2021, 02:46 PM
Feb 2021

I understand the frustration, but we knew from the beginning this would happen. The Dems played it well - this makes it more public, historical, and it damns the GOP.

We dont have the time and luxury to be pessimistic. Channel the rage into beating the GOP down even further in 2022.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,669 posts)
10. Au contraire. We always knew what the outcome would be; but now
Sat Feb 13, 2021, 02:46 PM
Feb 2021

it's all on the record forever. In effect the GOP Senate was on trial, and the verdict of history will be that they lost. Trump is still not the president, he's still banned from Twitter, and even though he won't be barred from running for office in the future, he will be in such deep legal shit from now on (definitely civil suits and possibly criminal prosecution), that his chances of actually doing so will diminish pretty fast.

walkingman

(7,593 posts)
13. I think it was very necessary - years from now the real truth will be obvious. Trump is a 21st
Sat Feb 13, 2021, 02:48 PM
Feb 2021

century version of "George Wallace" and I seriously doubt that many will even admit voting for him in future years.

I hoping the days of white supremacy are on their way out but I seriously doubt it. The RED states will begin a very serious effort later this year to further restrict voting rights, even more egregious gerrymandering, and don't be surprised if the GOP terrorist groups attack the government again.

Until there is a price to pay then it is simply a green light to continue their BS.

I personally hold all Trump voters responsible for this shitshow, including family members.

frazzled

(18,402 posts)
15. The record of this trial will be handed down for generations
Sat Feb 13, 2021, 02:50 PM
Feb 2021

And no mention of DJ Trump will begin with anything other than “incited an insurrection against the Capitol of the United States”—whether he is convicted or not.

There was no real punishment attached to this trial anyway. The real punishment is that the truth—the hard facts—is known forever. The vote is of course known to be merely political, but the facts remain. An acquittal does not mean that these facts were untrue or in dispute.

fishwax

(29,149 posts)
16. it's not a waste of time to stand up and say we're not going to stand for this
Sat Feb 13, 2021, 02:51 PM
Feb 2021

and it's not a waste of time to get republicans to go on the record as willing to stand for it

ecstatic

(32,681 posts)
17. If Democrats had not impeached they would have been derelict in their duties
Sat Feb 13, 2021, 02:53 PM
Feb 2021

alongside the GOP. If tRump were anything other than a white man, we wouldn't even be having this debate on whether or not to hold an insurrectionist accountable.

blogslut

(37,997 posts)
18. Witnesses would have made for great drama
Sat Feb 13, 2021, 02:54 PM
Feb 2021

But this is not a "show". It is an impeachment trial. The second one for a single ex-president. We need 67 senators to convict him. The GOP lacks the courage to do their duty.

It was never going to happen. I am sorry. I wish it were otherwise.

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
22. History will remember him
Sat Feb 13, 2021, 02:58 PM
Feb 2021

History will remember him as literally the worst president in history, worse than Buchanan, with or without this "trial".

cry baby

(6,682 posts)
23. I just don't think this historical record is a waste of time.
Sat Feb 13, 2021, 03:00 PM
Feb 2021

The managers proved their case.

It isn’t immediate gratification, but it’s important none the less.

Just my humble opinion.

Afromania

(2,768 posts)
28. I don't think anybody thought it would actually lead to an impeachment.
Sat Feb 13, 2021, 03:15 PM
Feb 2021

Republicans have gone so far down the rabbit hole that they no longer realize there was an entry point at all. This impeachment trial was for the historical record. One day in a far future, or maybe even a not so far one, people can see exactly how far the republican party would go to debase Democracy for a wannabe dictator.

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