I am glad they are not moving forward with witnesses...

[mysteryowl]

This current GOP has their minds made up and nothing will change their vote.
It would only delay Biden/Harris and dems agenda. We learned this in the past. They won't budge.

[Chainfire]

1. I think that he House team got exactly what they wanted all along.

It was a bluff and the defense folded. Nobody wants the trial to drag on for weeks.

[servermsh]

5. They got nothing! The defense said they don't agree the statement was truthful!

We didn't get to see the Rep's contemporaneous notes!

[Demsrule86]

13. It is in the record so they can BS all they want. The Biden agenda is more important than

wasting weeks on a trial with witnesses where there will never be a conviction...American people lose unemployment in March.

[empedocles]

14. MSNBC called the republican move a white flag of surrender.

[Mike 03]

10. What did we get exactly?

A quote from a newspaper article read into the record that the defense will go around for the next week saying isn't true?

IMO that story had far more impact when it was a stand-alone story than being part of this trial's record. It's likely to disappear now.

[Chainfire]

18. This whole process is about building an historical record of the events.

From day one, we knew that the Republicans would not turn on one of their own, regardless of the crimes. That statement is now a part of the documentation of the evidence that shows that Trump is guilty, regardless of how his minions vote. It is certainly something.

[spooky3]

23. The team made a compelling case to the American people. That is the

best they could hope for.

“It is difficult to get a man to understand something, when his salary depends on his not understanding it.”

― Upton Sinclair

https://www.goodreads.com/quotes/21810-it-is-difficult-to-get-a-man-to-understand-something

[calguy]

2. Nice to see someone else who agrees with me!!

[mysteryowl]

7. Have people said otherwise?

I have not read too many posts recently.

Witnesses is what WE want, it would do nothing to change a trumplikans mind.

We can't take any more time delaying the WH.

[calguy]

15. A lot of people want to extract as much blood as possible

Others say it's kicking the can. I say the verdict has been predetermined so let's get on with passing Joe's agenda. We need to get Merrick Garland confirmed and hand the case over to him.
Everyone has an opinion and none of them are wrong.

[Irish_Dem]

3. I agree, it would just be a three ring circus and draw attention from the Covid Bill.

[cilla4progress]

16. Yep.

BUT they should have messaged this upfront so they didn't get so much backlash from Dems!

They could have had a reliable messenger tweet it right as Raskin announced he was just going to read it into the record.

Drama people, drama!

[Irish_Dem]

22. Trump's strategy is to keep us on a roller coaster like always.

My .02 is that we need to trust Raskin's team and strategy.
We did the right and honorable thing.
We are not to blame for the GOP sociopathy.

[cilla4progress]

24. Yeah -

abusive substance abuser moves ...

[Irish_Dem]

25. Exactly, quite predictable. We cannot get hooked into it.

[servermsh]

4. So when the House and Senate recess for a week....

Will you say they are "delaying the Biden/Harris agenda"?

It seems you also agree with the January exception for impeachment.

It's a free-for-all at the end of the President's term!

[mysteryowl]

9. You are adding thoughts to my thread I did not post, nor would I agree with.

Dems cannot change republicans minds. That's all.

[stillcool]

12. I thought they would be working from home?

ala Covid. What do Democrats have to do with a January exception? Do you really think that dragging this out, will have more Republicans voting to convict? It's almost as though we've entered yet another alternate reality where Republicans act like they give a shit.

[Demsrule86]

17. They will still be working on the bill getting it ready...

[doc03]

6. You could call in a hundred witnesses and it

wouldn't change one vote.

[mysteryowl]

11. Exactly!

We would like to hear from them, but it won't change anything.

Hopefully, the lawsuits and criminal charges will take him down!

[Mike 03]

20. I don't understand why there was a vote to call witnesses. Was that procedural or

did one side request it?

[StarfishSaver]

26. I think it was a setup

The Republicans were whining about how this was a rush to judgment, no evidence, no witnesses, etc. So the Democrats said, "We have a Republican we'd like to come in and give some evidence. Let's vote to have witnesses" and all but 5 Republicans voted no. And then the Democrats said, "Oh, wait a minute. We can get this information into the record without calling any witnesses. Never mind."

[empedocles]

28. Democratic tactical decision. Seemed to get what they wanted.

MSNBC commentator called it a republican white flag of surrender.

[empedocles]

8. Agreed. The 5 Republican Senators voting bi-partisan shows

significant movement and weakening of the trump bloc.

This is a long, slow, grueling 'Process', but it seems to be moving in the justice direction.

Seems like the Democratic leadership is doing well.

[mysteryowl]

21. Yes, but they decided they will convict before the trial. I think.

[DSandra]

27. "They would never do it so why try..."

Imagine if an attitude like that was the attitude of...

- Women with the suffrage movement
- Gandhi
- The civil rights movement
- Many entrepreneurs
- Many inventors
- Every underdog facing a formidable foe


Just because you can’t see victory on the horizon doesn’t mean it’s not possible.

[SharonClark]

29. It's because they can count the votes.

And the goal of putting Trump’s criminal unethical and criminal behavior on June 6 in the historic record has been successfully completed.