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ProudMNDemocrat

(20,693 posts)
Sat Feb 13, 2021, 03:12 PM Feb 2021

Even with Acquital, the House Mangers still won because of Jamie Raskin...

As Lead ManagerJamie Raskin so eloquently stated and laid out for all to undsrstand..." This inpeachment trial is not about Donald Trump. We all know who he is and what he is. This is about all of us and what kind of country we want for our children and grandchildden. What we do in this room will be our legacy."

By laying this all on the Senators in the room, Raskin knows who will do the right thing and who will have the stains on their legacies. Brilliant Rep. Raskin.


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Even with Acquital, the House Mangers still won because of Jamie Raskin... (Original Post) ProudMNDemocrat Feb 2021 OP
We are on the side of right, and the side of history. Irish_Dem Feb 2021 #1
YES! consider_this Feb 2021 #2
Their closing arguments were outstanding. Really gave me a lot to think about. katmondoo Feb 2021 #3
You are exactly right Chainfire Feb 2021 #4
Yes, Raskin simply brilliant on every level msfiddlestix Feb 2021 #5
This exercise if nothing else deposited a shitload of,... magicarpet Feb 2021 #6
Look at all the evidence The Federal Courts and local jurisdictions have for the future? ProudMNDemocrat Feb 2021 #7
Yes, the Carolina Whiner will be tap-dancing on hot coals for a while. nt Oldem Feb 2021 #16
His last address was unbelievable, and he did it almost from memory. He's brilliant. George II Feb 2021 #8
Indeed, I hope Jamie Raskin has time to write a book when this is over FakeNoose Feb 2021 #11
The entire team of House Managers were brilliant in their arguments. Bravo iluvtennis Feb 2021 #9
Raskin was absolutely brilliant! dlk Feb 2021 #10
Since the constitution requires wnylib Feb 2021 #12
Headline: Majority votes to convict former president tRump MyMission Feb 2021 #29
Reminds me of Adam's speech at the first impeachment birdographer Feb 2021 #13
Before the trial I was worried about not having Adam Schiff. We are so blessed mucifer Feb 2021 #14
By not convicting Trump, the GOP convicted themselves. CaptainTruth Feb 2021 #15
DOJ must go after Trump!!! Pepsidog Feb 2021 #17
we really really have to take the senate even though we have a majiority , AllaN01Bear Feb 2021 #18
Absolutely. ShazzieB Feb 2021 #25
I'm not so sure...... in 2 months everything will have been forgotten except for "NOT GUILTY" groundloop Feb 2021 #19
I call bullshit orangecrush Feb 2021 #20
+100000000000000000000000000000000 x 2 AmyStrange Feb 2021 #21
the McConnells and other craven Trump followers still think that they can survive Trump and be fine paulkienitz Feb 2021 #22
Pelosi is thanking them now. BigmanPigman Feb 2021 #23
Raskin did a stellar job, as did the others. Vinca Feb 2021 #24
Fantastic! sarchasm Feb 2021 #26
There is nothing to be ashamed of or worried about here bucolic_frolic Feb 2021 #27
History will fondly remember him, as well as Adam Schiff from the 1st impeachment. bullwinkle428 Feb 2021 #28
Rep Jamie Raskin did a masterful job ailsagirl Feb 2021 #30
K&MF'n R! Dark n Stormy Knight Feb 2021 #31

consider_this

(2,847 posts)
2. YES!
Sat Feb 13, 2021, 03:13 PM
Feb 2021

He gave the best closing statement - thank you for posting some of it here.

He did reserve some time, so hopefully they can have the last word after this 'defense' lawyers BS.

 

Chainfire

(17,757 posts)
4. You are exactly right
Sat Feb 13, 2021, 03:23 PM
Feb 2021

If the sole point of this procedure was conviction, then it was not worth the effort, and that was clear from the start.

The Republicans were never going to convict.

msfiddlestix

(8,172 posts)
5. Yes, Raskin simply brilliant on every level
Sat Feb 13, 2021, 03:24 PM
Feb 2021

Every Manager gave memorable closing comments, for the ages.

It would be wonderful to have all archived for reference. I imagine transcripts would be posted somewhere on their .gov pages or somewhere for easy access.. I'll try and remember to search for those sometime just to keep handy on my lap top.



magicarpet

(18,464 posts)
6. This exercise if nothing else deposited a shitload of,...
Sat Feb 13, 2021, 03:26 PM
Feb 2021

... of information into the public discourse, directly into the congressional record, and into finally, most important of all, the annals of history.

This will show future generations how responsive Democrats where toward this issue,... and alternately how unresponsive the ReThugs were and shamefully cavalier they were towards this matter.

ProudMNDemocrat

(20,693 posts)
7. Look at all the evidence The Federal Courts and local jurisdictions have for the future?
Sat Feb 13, 2021, 03:30 PM
Feb 2021

It is looking like Ole Lindsey Graham is going to be connected to the Fulton County DA case on Election Interference for his call to the Georgia Sec. of State.

FakeNoose

(40,815 posts)
11. Indeed, I hope Jamie Raskin has time to write a book when this is over
Sat Feb 13, 2021, 04:20 PM
Feb 2021

I'd certainly want to read it. Thank you Rep. Raskin!

dlk

(13,202 posts)
10. Raskin was absolutely brilliant!
Sat Feb 13, 2021, 04:17 PM
Feb 2021

He was the right man at the right time. No one could have done better and I have a new level of admiration for him. All of the House Managers did the most incredible job possible. They all deserve the utmost gratitude and thanks. Even in the face of this loss, I couldn’t be more proud of them.

wnylib

(25,355 posts)
12. Since the constitution requires
Sat Feb 13, 2021, 04:20 PM
Feb 2021

a 2/3 majority for conviction, the traitor was acquitted. But don't forget that there was a majority that voted to convict.

Raskin's closing was superb.

By acquitting the traitor, the Republican Party has now officially declared itself the traitor party of Trump. I, for one, refuse from now on to designate any of them as Rs or Rrpublicans. They are now and forever the Traitor Party, the Ts.

We have two major parties in the US today, the Traitor Party and the Patriot Party. Never forget which is which.

MyMission

(2,010 posts)
29. Headline: Majority votes to convict former president tRump
Sat Feb 13, 2021, 05:56 PM
Feb 2021

Or, Bipartisan majority votes to convict!

But not enough votes, due cowardly or complicit GOPQ senators.

tRump acquitted is not the headline I want to see, and may boycott any news media that tries to sell that.

birdographer

(2,937 posts)
13. Reminds me of Adam's speech at the first impeachment
Sat Feb 13, 2021, 04:28 PM
Feb 2021

when he warned them that if they let trump get away with it that time, there was a 100% chance he would do it again. We keep warning them, they keep ignoring it.

mucifer

(25,604 posts)
14. Before the trial I was worried about not having Adam Schiff. We are so blessed
Sat Feb 13, 2021, 04:30 PM
Feb 2021

to have so many amazing people on our side.

ShazzieB

(22,359 posts)
25. Absolutely.
Sat Feb 13, 2021, 05:10 PM
Feb 2021

We need a much stronger majority in the Senate, AND we need to build the House majority back up as well. Lots of work to do in 2022! (Hey, how's that for a slogan? )

orangecrush

(29,454 posts)
20. I call bullshit
Sat Feb 13, 2021, 04:55 PM
Feb 2021


The acquittal of Donald Trump is a NATIONAL DISGRACE, NOT SOMETHING TO CELEBRATE IN ANY WAY, SHAPE, OR FORM.

The blame for this lies entirely with those in the GOP who betrayed their oaths of office and their country with their vote to let this madman walk, and now run for office again.

paulkienitz

(1,507 posts)
22. the McConnells and other craven Trump followers still think that they can survive Trump and be fine
Sat Feb 13, 2021, 05:00 PM
Feb 2021

but the stank will NEVER wash off. Like the man said, everything Trump touches dies.

sarchasm

(1,296 posts)
26. Fantastic!
Sat Feb 13, 2021, 05:17 PM
Feb 2021

Jamie Raskin
David Cicilline
Stacey Plaskett
Madeleine Dean
Joaquin Castro
Joe Neguse
Ted Lieu
Eric Swalwell
Diana DeGette

Brought to you by, Nancy Pelosi

bucolic_frolic

(54,544 posts)
27. There is nothing to be ashamed of or worried about here
Sat Feb 13, 2021, 05:36 PM
Feb 2021

There is a massive infestation of fascism in the populace and the political ranks. It's so large you can't risk a conflagration. Tamping it down, bit by bit, calming down rhetoric, letting time go by and tempers cool down, is how you find a path back to normal. As much as I dislike McConnell, he acknowledged several major points against Trump. And I don't want to admit he has made an implied point: do we really want to establish precedent that we try and convict former presidents. Because if you do it once, it will be done again, and they will come for us Democrats as you well know. There is great wisdom in the strong stand for our Constitution, and let the DOJ and court systems deal with the further fallout, beginning with all the indictments against insurgents already underway.

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