Speaker Pelosi just turned me around on censure with these powerful words:

[11 Bravo]

"Oh, these cowardly senators who couldn't face up to what the president did and what was at stake for our country are now going to have a chance to give a little slap on the wrist. We censure people for using stationary for the wrong purpose. We don't censure people for inciting insurrection that kills people in the Capitol."

I had been in favor of a censure resolution just because I want that miserable piece of shit to receive at least some kind of a rebuke.

I now believe that she is absolutely right. And I will do everything I can to ensure that their cowardly votes to acquit remain hung around the neck of every one of those 43 sycophantic, ass-kissing, Republican senators.

[msfiddlestix]

1. I loved that yesterday. Of course that's right.

[50 Shades Of Blue]

2. K & R

[BootinUp]

3. I agreed with her too. And 7 R votes to convict

Was a couple more than I expected, not as many as I hoped. Something has to be done about the propaganda running rampant in this country. It’s just impossible to have a reasonably functional democracy with the current situation.

[Tumbulu]

25. That is the real problem

the propaganda, and it has been corroding the commons significantly for decades.

Start with reimposing the Fairness Doctrine.

[central scrutinizer]

4. Spelling pedant here

Whoever transcribed this doesn’t know how to spell stationery.

[11 Bravo]

6. Good catch.

It was a cut and paste on this end, but you're absolutely correct. (I'm something of a grammar and spelling scold myself.)

[keithhs28]

18. Re: Good catch

Stationery has an 'e' for envelope.

[11 Bravo]

29. I love a good mnemonic.

[Dark n Stormy Knight]

32. Same here. We could use more of them.

Maybe a few to help legislators & presidents remember their oaths & pertinent parts of our Constitution?

Regarding reading & writing, I've spent years teaching and correcting papers. Spotting mistakes is automatic, which I wish spell-check were. Errors distract and detract, but then so do posted corrections, and most people don't take kindly to red-pencil posts from fellow humans. I frequently fight that urge, and not always successfully.

I suspect that the great majority of people who post online don't even bother to read over what they've written & fix typos, much less (gasp!) edit their writing for clarity or style. It's just just type & send.

Not claiming my posts are perfect! For one thing, I learned to type using a full-size, physical keyboard and haven't adapted well to the tiny phone screen ones. However, I do make an effort, every time, to fix & edit before posting. And I'm happy to have any errors I've missed brought to my attention so I can correct them.

[RVN VET71]

31. Maybe not

She may have been referring to drug using politicians who stand in one spot while using, in which case there should be a comma before and after “stationary."

[Cha]

5. Kick!

[SheltieLover]

7. K&R!

[roamer65]

8. Speaker Pelosi is amazing.

Just an innate ability to maneuver through difficult political obstacles.

She would have made an exceptional President.

[Hortensis]

9. Someone compared it to having a document placed in a personnel file. nt

[BobTheSubgenius]

10. Yes, Nancy Pelosi has that kind of power.

There should be a statue to her.

[bottomofthehill]

11. I loved her raw emotion and anger yesterday

She had no plan to crash the managers conference, but was at her boiling point and came on down to blow off a little steam.

Good for her. Thank you all too as you are my outlet to blow off steam. We don’t all get a national stage, but here among friends it is cathartic just the same.

[TomSlick]

12. Trump is the subject of a bipartisan vote to impeach in the House and

the most bipartisan vote to convict in the Senate.

As disappointing as the failure of the Senate to reach the required super majority to convict was, the majority, bipartisan votes in the House and Senate was a far more serious rebuke that any vote to censure.

[oldsoftie]

28. To all I know who crow about "2 acquittals!"; I remind them OJ was acquitted too.

They dont like that.

[Wounded Bear]

13. They have no shame. They just laugh that weak shit off...

[Oldem]

14. A little history....

In 1954 the Senate censured Joe McCarthy, and it was no slap on the wrist. In the linked document, I call your attention especially to the words "...restore the sense of dignity..." under the heading Response of the Senate. The entire article is worth it, but if you're not up for anything else, at least read the Conclusion. Do we need to restore a sense of dignity? Yes, and badly. Is this the Senate of 1954? No, it isn't. But this Senate and House can put as much iron in the glove it slaps miscreants with as it wants to.

https://www.senate.gov/about/powers-procedures/censure/133Joseph_McCarthy.htm

[TwilightZone]

15. Censure is often just a token gesture.

I'm not sure why it was ever a serious topic of conversation re: Trump. It certainly wasn't an appropriate punishment.

[wnylib]

23. The reason why it was considered

seriously is that the Traitor Party wanted to do a token "disapproval" of him to polish their image without actually hurting their leader. Similar to Traitor Mitch giving a scorching speech about the insurrection incitement AFTER voting to acquit him on the grounds that it was unconstitutional because the Traitor in Chief was no longer in office. But of course it was Traitor Mitch who refused to convene the Senate for a trial while "it" was still in office.

Trying to have one's cake and eat it, too.

[SunSeeker]

16. Exactly. It's like giving a murderer a fine.

It downplays the crime.

[Generic Other]

17. You tell 'em 11 Bravo

They need to hear this. LOUD and CLEAR. Real patriots do not Stand Down and Stand By!

[catrose]

19. Gee, I didn't know you could get censured for using the wrong stationery.

But if you can, that is def not insurrection.

[TwilightZone]

20. Using it for the wrong purpose, not using the wrong stationery.

Not sure on the details, but my guess is that it was used for a non-official purpose. Personal use of government stationary, etc.

[Wawannabe]

21. Plus

It totally mocks all these idiot state Republican parties that have been in a censure frenzy!

Mock mock mock.

[Trueblue Texan]

22. The 43 senators who voted to acquit should be censored...

...then primaried.

[FakeNoose]

24. There you go

[malthaussen]

26. It's possible that censure in the military is more severe from that in politics.

It's about on the lines of "nudge nudge, wink wink" in this case.

-- Mal

[Hotler]

27. Of course she's right, she was pissed. nt

[Joinfortmill]

30. Amen.

[Nitram]

33. Damn straight!