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StarfishSaver

(18,486 posts)
Mon Feb 15, 2021, 09:35 AM Feb 2021

Hannah Drake: Welcome to OUR world.

Truth ...

The anger and frustration so many people felt on Saturday is how black folk feel every time we all see a video of a cop shooting an unarmed black man in the back, and white people tell us, "We don't know the whole story."


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Hannah Drake: Welcome to OUR world. (Original Post) StarfishSaver Feb 2021 OP
K&R. WhiskeyGrinder Feb 2021 #1
K&R smirkymonkey Feb 2021 #2
K&R 2naSalit Feb 2021 #3
KNR niyad Feb 2021 #4
K&R. My Pet Orangutan Feb 2021 #5
Sad, but accurate...nt Wounded Bear Feb 2021 #6
K&R! gademocrat7 Feb 2021 #7
Anyone surprised by Saturday's verdict apparently still has no idea with whom they're dealing Fullduplexxx Feb 2021 #8
This is much like the aftermath of the OJ verdict StarfishSaver Feb 2021 #12
After the House Managers completed their case... mjvpi Feb 2021 #17
They have nowhere else to turn Cary Feb 2021 #14
And they are cranking up the propaganda to produce more extremists and cultists. Hermit-The-Prog Feb 2021 #30
Perfectly same. Bluethroughu Feb 2021 #9
Sadly, justice isn't always possible Cary Feb 2021 #10
Never give up. Never. BComplex Feb 2021 #21
Black people have never given up happy feet Feb 2021 #23
We will never give up. bdamomma Feb 2021 #31
K&R betsuni Feb 2021 #11
Kick mcar Feb 2021 #13
"I could stand in the middle of 5th Avenue and shoot somebody and ..." progressoid Feb 2021 #15
Kick. MontanaMama Feb 2021 #16
the last four years have been an eye-opener for me, for sure. MASW Feb 2021 #18
Thank you for saying that StarfishSaver Feb 2021 #20
THIS! happy feet Feb 2021 #22
If it weren't for black voters Danascot Feb 2021 #33
I don't know anybody who was shocked by the decision... malthaussen Feb 2021 #19
Same. Angry though, as in every case of injustice. And while Dark n Stormy Knight Feb 2021 #25
K&R crickets Feb 2021 #24
It's undeniable. BobTheSubgenius Feb 2021 #26
Tell It Hannah. Tommymac Feb 2021 #27
I'm glad she said "some" Ferrets are Cool Feb 2021 #28
Like we used to say Dan Feb 2021 #32
Kick! c-rational Feb 2021 #29
K&R Blue Owl Feb 2021 #34
Profound malaise Feb 2021 #35
K&R The Wizard Feb 2021 #36

Fullduplexxx

(8,633 posts)
8. Anyone surprised by Saturday's verdict apparently still has no idea with whom they're dealing
Mon Feb 15, 2021, 11:06 AM
Feb 2021

This was no surprise

 

StarfishSaver

(18,486 posts)
12. This is much like the aftermath of the OJ verdict
Mon Feb 15, 2021, 11:47 AM
Feb 2021

when white Americans suddenly noticed that the justice system wasn't fair.

mjvpi

(1,946 posts)
17. After the House Managers completed their case...
Mon Feb 15, 2021, 12:05 PM
Feb 2021

.... I texted a friend "the glove fit". Obviously I hadn’t really thought the analogy out completely.

Cary

(11,746 posts)
14. They have nowhere else to turn
Mon Feb 15, 2021, 11:49 AM
Feb 2021

Putting the welfare of our nation ahead of their lust for power is not an option for them.

They can't go back to kind of sort of not embracing white supremacists (wink wink). There aren't enough of them which was their problem all along. The core of their base are the obscenely wealthy and the real goal was to get people to buy into the idea that their obscene wealth was justified by their innate superiority.

That ideology can't prevail without lying and cheating, so they have themselves trapped. We must continue to turn out at the polls, as I have been saying for years. I have taken a lot of abuse here for simply advocating "Vote Democratic." I don't care about the abuse; I passionately care about uniting against our true enemy.

When we bash each other we play into the hands of the fascists. Not enough of us understand that. Drawing off a mere 20,000 in a swing state can lose elections. And I'm sorry but 2000 and 2016 proved that to be true.

Cary

(11,746 posts)
10. Sadly, justice isn't always possible
Mon Feb 15, 2021, 11:35 AM
Feb 2021

I'm sorry. Really and truly.

As a practicing lawyer, for over 35 years, I will tell you that's true. It's disconcerting, for sure, but unfortunately we all must work through that reality. We must persist. We must continue the struggle for justice. We have no other choice.

Never give up. Never.

BComplex

(10,022 posts)
21. Never give up. Never.
Mon Feb 15, 2021, 01:51 PM
Feb 2021

Thank you, Cary!! I totally agree. Too many of our ancestors bled real blood and major agony so that we could preserve our union.

These assholes CAN NOT take it away.

happy feet

(1,313 posts)
23. Black people have never given up
Mon Feb 15, 2021, 04:57 PM
Feb 2021

You say justice isn't always possible - that's obvious and the point OP - that black people aren't surprised at the outcome because justice is SELDOM the outcome for us.

 

MASW

(22 posts)
18. the last four years have been an eye-opener for me, for sure.
Mon Feb 15, 2021, 12:11 PM
Feb 2021

I consider myself a progressive, for sure...but only in the past four years have I even had an inkling of "oh, so this is how Black people have felt for the past 400 years." And what a bitter, bitter irony that it was an African American, Officer Eugene Goodman, whose courage, decency, and sense of duty very likely saved the country.

 

StarfishSaver

(18,486 posts)
20. Thank you for saying that
Mon Feb 15, 2021, 12:23 PM
Feb 2021

I'm glad you noted Eugene Goodman. He's a true hero.

The same thing goes (obviously in a different way) for black voters over the years. Black Americans are the most marginalized and mistreated citizens of this country, but election after election after election, we still step up, fight to overcome oppression, withstand suppression, stand in line for hours, face down threats, etc. to vote - usually for candidates we know won't protect ALL of our interests but are the best option available.

And while we're doing that, we have to listen to lots of entitled white people whine about how put upon they are because they had to "hold their nose" to vote for a candidate who doesn't agree with them on every single issue and even threaten not to vote at all because they need to send a "message."

Now that Trump was acquitted, some of these same people are carrying on about how "Democracy is BROKEN!" as if they just recently figured out that the system doesn't always work and this time, it didn't work for them.

Danascot

(5,339 posts)
33. If it weren't for black voters
Tue Feb 16, 2021, 12:02 AM
Feb 2021

particularly black women voters we would be suffering under a republican house and senate and a Trump second term. We aren't nearly grateful enough to these dedicated voters. Nor have we done enough to address the issues that are important to them.

malthaussen

(18,646 posts)
19. I don't know anybody who was shocked by the decision...
Mon Feb 15, 2021, 12:14 PM
Feb 2021

... apparently Hannah Drake's sample pool differs from mine.

-- Mal

Dark n Stormy Knight

(10,486 posts)
25. Same. Angry though, as in every case of injustice. And while
Mon Feb 15, 2021, 05:36 PM
Feb 2021

recognizing and abhorring the long-standing additional weight of injustice put on those who are even more likely to be denied justice, determined to keep working to bring "liberty and justice for all" out of myth and into the reality of our potentially great nation.

BobTheSubgenius

(12,267 posts)
26. It's undeniable.
Mon Feb 15, 2021, 06:18 PM
Feb 2021

Her thesis is correct, and her examples are on point. This is indeed the treatment POC expect and receive from 5-O almost daily, if not daily.

Tommymac

(7,334 posts)
27. Tell It Hannah.
Mon Feb 15, 2021, 06:34 PM
Feb 2021

The Truth is powerful.

And it can help to continue the process of undoing 400 years of ignorance and hatred.



Dan

(5,353 posts)
32. Like we used to say
Mon Feb 15, 2021, 10:17 PM
Feb 2021

Thank God for the Hippies, cause without them - Nixon would have killed us all.

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