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DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
Mon Feb 15, 2021, 09:42 AM Feb 2021

Jews fear what follows after Republicans applauded Marjorie Taylor Greene


Deborah Lipstadt

It is chilling that rather than condemn the conspiracy theorist’s espousal of antisemitic nonsense, her party supported her

Mon 15 Feb 2021 07.46 EST

For a few days last month, in a little corner of the internet where topics of Jewish interest are discussed, Jewish space lasers were trending.

The discussion was prompted by speculation from the newly elected Georgia Republican congresswoman Marjorie Taylor Greene based on “research” she had conducted, that wildfires in California had been caused by a project to explore “solar generators” tenuously associated with Rothschild, “an international banking firm”. Once that assertion became public, the floodgates opened and cynics, humorists and pundits – the Jewish community is blessed with an abundance of them – took ownership of this meme and began to explore every aspect of the lasers. Were they an appropriate batmitzvah gift? Did people who observe kashrut need separate lasers for dairy and for meat? Was a special one necessary for Passover? If buying in bulk, could they be obtained wholesale?

Of course, the Jewish community is a place where there is always a surfeit of opinions. Not surprisingly, some observers doubted whether this was a matter for humour, arguing that it was not acceptable to laugh at such a dangerous – albeit absurd – claim. They argued that however far-fetched – a word that some pundits claim must have a Yiddish origin – Greene’s assertions might be, they were not a laughing matter.

The doubters were quickly reminded that Jews have developed a fine art of laughing at their sorrows, even while trembling with fear. Surprising though it may be, in Nazi Germany Jews crafted jokes about the horrendous circumstances in which they lived. Consider this classic. Berlin 1938: two Jews were sitting on a park bench reading newspapers. One was engrossed in the Jewish communal paper, while the other occupied himself with the Nazi party’s official paper. The first, seeing his companion’s choice of reading material, expressed amazement that he would read a paper rife with antisemitic propaganda. The second explained that if he read the Jewish newspaper all he would find was news of Jews’ trials and tribulations. But if he read the Nazi paper, he learned that Jews controlled the banks, the media, foreign governments and every other important global institution. One depressed him, while the other made him feel powerful.

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https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2021/feb/15/jews-fear-republicans-applauded-marjorie-taylor-greene-conspiracy-theorist
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Jews fear what follows after Republicans applauded Marjorie Taylor Greene (Original Post) DonViejo Feb 2021 OP
"Do you still think you can control them?" catbyte Feb 2021 #1
She's the leading edge of a hate-filled tsunami The Blue Flower Feb 2021 #2
It might take that! atreides1 Feb 2021 #4
The Guardian is doing tons of great pieces on what's happening in D.C., along bullwinkle428 Feb 2021 #3
I'm really stunned the media has let this blatant antisemitism go mostly unchecked for years. Johnny2X2X Feb 2021 #5
It doesn't surprise me. Behind the Aegis Feb 2021 #10
Why don't they use the space laser central scrutinizer Feb 2021 #6
Stop making sense! The logic -- it burns!! Hermit-The-Prog Feb 2021 #16
With the rise of White Identity Politics, it's unclear where Jews fit in Klaralven Feb 2021 #7
Orthodox Jews support Trump Dem4Life1102 Feb 2021 #17
Meanwhile in Spain... Behind the Aegis Feb 2021 #18
Like other European right-wing parties they particularly dislike George Soros Klaralven Feb 2021 #19
I'm not a Jew but I'm feeling the fear and more than that; I'm terrified! What affects one ethnic abqtommy Feb 2021 #8
Exactly! peggysue2 Feb 2021 #11
Exactly right. Behind the Aegis Feb 2021 #12
Not here, not without a fight. roamer65 Feb 2021 #9
K&R for visibility. crickets Feb 2021 #13
KnR Hekate Feb 2021 #14
PM kick Arazi Feb 2021 #15
Kick ck4829 Feb 2021 #20
Jews have been fearing what follows for 4,000 years. nt leftyladyfrommo Feb 2021 #21

The Blue Flower

(5,442 posts)
2. She's the leading edge of a hate-filled tsunami
Mon Feb 15, 2021, 09:54 AM
Feb 2021

Her views now bear the stamp of official validation. It's only a matter of time until we see more violence targeted at synagogues and Jewish businesses. This is a cancer growing on the body of the R party, and they welcome it.

atreides1

(16,072 posts)
4. It might take that!
Mon Feb 15, 2021, 10:12 AM
Feb 2021

To force those like the Adelson family, to stop giving money to the Republican party...until the party purges itself of the cancer it has allowed to infect it!!!

bullwinkle428

(20,629 posts)
3. The Guardian is doing tons of great pieces on what's happening in D.C., along
Mon Feb 15, 2021, 10:00 AM
Feb 2021

with the rest of the country.

Johnny2X2X

(19,038 posts)
5. I'm really stunned the media has let this blatant antisemitism go mostly unchecked for years.
Mon Feb 15, 2021, 10:13 AM
Feb 2021

The message of the Right is clear, globalist bankers means Jews. Hollywood producers means Jews. George Soros is Jewish. I have been shocked it's gone mostly unchecked by politicians and the media alike for the last several years.

Behind the Aegis

(53,951 posts)
10. It doesn't surprise me.
Mon Feb 15, 2021, 01:14 PM
Feb 2021

The bigotry leveled at Jews, including excusing, minimizing, or ignoring anti-Semitism has, IMO, become more pronounced. Despite being a minority, many don't view us as one. Despite being the second highest group of victims in hate crimes for 2019 (African-Americans are number one, and gay men number three) and the highest group of victims in the subcategory of anti-religious crimes (60% for 2019) for 20 years running, people ignore Jews and our concerns, unless they can make it into something they (the oppressors) want or need for the moment. Frankly, I think it is why Q-Anon is so popular; years and years of anti-Semitism bubbling underneath, unchallenged, then repurposed for the modern day and its needs.

 

Klaralven

(7,510 posts)
7. With the rise of White Identity Politics, it's unclear where Jews fit in
Mon Feb 15, 2021, 10:54 AM
Feb 2021

The Trump years have resulted in a thorough split between the Elite Whites and the Non-Elite Whites in the Republican Party.

The Elite Whites are the business, financial, academic, media and political elites who are trans-national, favor diversity, and support traditional, internationally oriented foreign policy and national security security goals, including trade and immigration. They are fairly closely allied with independent and Democratic Elite Whites and with elite Asian, Black and Hispanics to form the overall elite establishment. A large portion of Jews fit comfortably in this milieu.

Non-Elite Whites subdivide into a number of divisions, principally Catholic, Evangelical and Secular Right White groups. Catholics are probably the least racist, since many White Hispanics are in that group. The Secular Right contains the most racist groups, including some which are anti-Semitic.

Therefore, secular Jews probably almost all fit in the Secular Left White group that contains the bulk of the White Democrats. It's unclear where religious Jews fit.

Race and religion have become the main cleavages in American politics. Ideologies related to political economics or to systems of governance are now secondary.

Behind the Aegis

(53,951 posts)
18. Meanwhile in Spain...
Tue Feb 16, 2021, 01:26 AM
Feb 2021

Jewish leaders in Spain are calling for an investigation after a far-right event in Madrid featured anti-Semitic speeches and a Nazi salute.

About 300 people attended the event held near a cemetery in the Spanish capital where veterans who fought alongside Hitler’s troops are buried. In one speech, a young woman was filmed saying: “Our duty is to fight for Spain and Europe now weakened by the enemy, which remains the same but wears many masks: the Jew.”

Public expressions of admiration for Nazi Germany, anti-Semitic rhetoric and large far-right gatherings are relatively uncommon in Spain, where many people have bitter memories from the dictatorship of Francisco Franco, who sided with the Nazis during World War II and then ruled Spain until 1975.

But as in many European countries, right-wing populism has seen a massive and sudden rise in popularity in Spain in recent years. In 2019, the Vox populist right-wing party entered parliament for the first time as the country’s third-largest party, with 52 out of 350 seats.


Neo-Nazis giving the Hitler salute at an event near a cemetery in Madrid, Spain on Feb. 13, 2021. (Lamarea.com)

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abqtommy

(14,118 posts)
8. I'm not a Jew but I'm feeling the fear and more than that; I'm terrified! What affects one ethnic
Mon Feb 15, 2021, 11:13 AM
Feb 2021

or religious group affects us all.

peggysue2

(10,828 posts)
11. Exactly!
Mon Feb 15, 2021, 01:42 PM
Feb 2021

And those who would hate along racial lines--black and brown communities--will just as easily pivot to hate anyone who is not pure enough, white enough, ideologically clean enough. That means anyone and everyone who does toe the line, agree on all principles regardless of how grotesque the political end result.

Hate on one, hate on all.

Which is why Trumpism, America First, Neo-Nazism must be defeated, crushed. Always.

Because we know the abyss that awaits us, all of us.

We stand together or we perish.

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