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(94,261 posts)
Mon Feb 15, 2021, 01:40 PM Feb 2021

Earliest known, along with one of the most recent known, photographs of a President

Michael Shure @michaelshure 3m
Earliest known photograph of a President, along with one of the most recent known photographs of a President. Happy President’s Day.




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Earliest known, along with one of the most recent known, photographs of a President (Original Post) bigtree Feb 2021 OP
Oh my he's a cheerful looking thing isn't he? tavernier Feb 2021 #1
The Adamses were not warm and cuddly. Aristus Feb 2021 #4
I would not be warm and cuddly either murielm99 Feb 2021 #17
Considering he had to sit absolutely still for a half an hour... Hugin Feb 2021 #8
In the early days of portrait photography, people usually had a serious facial expression. Tanuki Feb 2021 #19
He actually wrote about the day this photo was taken. It's a fun read! NYC Liberal Feb 2021 #22
who is the old guy? samnsara Feb 2021 #2
Joe Biden aeromanKC Feb 2021 #9
John Q. Adams was long-past his Presidency by that point, and was at that time Aristus Feb 2021 #3
oh..John Adams son. I just watched that series. samnsara Feb 2021 #6
I'm really impressed! tavernier Feb 2021 #13
If that shrinks history, consider this case. BobTheSubgenius Feb 2021 #24
Excellent! tavernier Feb 2021 #26
Im finishing John Adams today...i subscribed to HBO just for that show.. samnsara Feb 2021 #5
I've watched it at least three times PatSeg Feb 2021 #7
I've watched Hamilton at least a dozen times. tavernier Feb 2021 #11
The cult has taken over the reply section. Sick people. Boomerproud Feb 2021 #10
Yes. He and hs father were both anti-slavery.nt Buzz cook Feb 2021 #12
And here is the life mask of John Adams whistler162 Feb 2021 #14
That's funny, I pulled up that same photo to show my son this weekend. Amazing. Pepsidog Feb 2021 #15
That's funny, I pulled up that same photo to show my son this weekend. Amazing. Pepsidog Feb 2021 #16
Question VladmireTrumpkins Feb 2021 #18
Off the top of my head, I'd say 1847, not long before he died. Aristus Feb 2021 #21
I had to laugh catchnrelease Feb 2021 #20
That's not Trump. His saggy ass would be hanging off the edge of the seat, and ... 11 Bravo Feb 2021 #23
Driver's license photo. We don't look good in those. keithbvadu2 Feb 2021 #25
He bears a passing resemblance to William Hartnell MustLoveBeagles Feb 2021 #27

murielm99

(32,988 posts)
17. I would not be warm and cuddly either
Mon Feb 15, 2021, 03:42 PM
Feb 2021

if I had to sit still in such a damned cold location.

Hugin

(37,847 posts)
8. Considering he had to sit absolutely still for a half an hour...
Mon Feb 15, 2021, 01:49 PM
Feb 2021

"making the photograph". His dour expression is understandable.

I can hear the photoneer yelling, "Darn it. His hands are blurred! Take two! Prop him up in the chair with an iron bar strapped to his back, if you have to!"

Tanuki

(16,446 posts)
19. In the early days of portrait photography, people usually had a serious facial expression.
Mon Feb 15, 2021, 03:57 PM
Feb 2021

You could almost say that smiling was frowned upon.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2015/12/01/researchers-have-discovered-a-surprising-reason-we-smile-in-photos

"Smiling is a biological reflex. Babies practice smiling as soon as they are born, their bodies rehearsing this essential human gesture. 

But to smile for the camera, to mug and pose, is strictly a learned habit. Historians say that the photographic grin not only a recent ritual, but also a somewhat artificial one: abetted by the camera industry, and entwined with the rise of cheerfulness as an American cultural norm.
....
Though photography was still relatively new in the 1850s, portraiture was not, and tradition said that proper people should not grin or bare their teeth in their pictures. Big smiles were considered silly, childish, or downright wicked.

“In the fine arts a grin was only characteristic of peasants, drunkards, children, and halfwits, suggesting low class or some other deficiency,” Kotchemidova writes, citing research from historian Fred Schroeder."...(moreĺ

NYC Liberal

(20,453 posts)
22. He actually wrote about the day this photo was taken. It's a fun read!
Mon Feb 15, 2021, 04:09 PM
Feb 2021

He was visiting Niagara Falls, met Tom Thumb, and got a pebble in his eye. (He also thought this was a terrible photo of himself.)

https://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2013/02/the-oldest-known-photographs-of-a-us-president/272872/

My first visit this morning immediately after breakfast was to the Female Seminary where I was introduced to the assembled teachers and pupils and addressed in behalf of the trustees of that institution by Mr. Spencer, in a manner so affecting that it made a child of me. It consisted chiefly of extracts which he read from my mother's published letters of 19th August 1774, to my father, and of June, 1778, to me. I actually sobbed as he read, utterly unable to suppress my emotion. Oh, my mother! Is there anything on earth so affecting to me as thy name so precious as thy instructions to my childhood, so dear as the memory of thy life? I answered I know not what. My thoughts were all upon my mother; my heart was too full for my head to think and my presence of mind was gone. At the close of his address, Mr. Spencer presented to me, at the request of the ladies, twelve numbers of a monthly publication from August, 1842, to July, 1843, called "The Young Ladies' Miscellany," the original productions of the Utica Female Academy.

At ten o clock the reception took place on a stage erected in front of the Bleeker House, where Mr. Bacon addressed and welcomed me in the name of the citizens of Utica. I answered him in a speech of about half an hour, sufficiently cheered for my hopes or wishes, but of mortifying inanity to myself. The shaking of some hundred hands then followed and on my way returning to Mr. Johnson's, I stopped and four daguerreotype likenesses of my head were taken, two of them jointly with the head of Mr. Bacon -- all hideous. Then a visit to the dwarf C.F. Stratton, called General Tom Thumb, eleven years old, twenty-five inches high, weighing fifteen pounds, dressed in military uniform mimicking Napoleon.

At Little Falls I was addressed and welcomed by Arphaxad Loomis, an ex-member of the Twenty Sixth Congress, whom I did not recognize till after I had answered. In the valley of the Mohawk we saw the fortress dwelling-house of Sir William Johnson, and that of the Indian chief Brant, said to be his son. About an hour before we reached Schenectady, the wind raised by the rapid motion of the car lodged on the ball of my left eye, beneath the under lid, a small sharp-angled pebble, of the entrance of which I was not conscious when it happened, but which fretted the eye to torture, produced considerable inflammation, and made it impossible for me to look in the face of those whom I was to address. A sumptuous dinner had been prepared for us at Schenectady. I was in anguish unutterable. I retired to a private chamber and washed the eye in cold water without relief. Dr. Duane, who had observed my suffering, followed me to the chamber, examined the eye, discovered the offensive pebble, wiped it out with the corner of a towel, and I was well.

aeromanKC

(3,890 posts)
9. Joe Biden
Mon Feb 15, 2021, 01:49 PM
Feb 2021

But he is young at heart!! (and probably healthier than the 20 years younger me)

Aristus

(72,178 posts)
3. John Q. Adams was long-past his Presidency by that point, and was at that time
Mon Feb 15, 2021, 01:44 PM
Feb 2021

a Congressional representative for Massachusetts.

He remains the first person to serve as President to be photographed, though.

tavernier

(14,443 posts)
13. I'm really impressed!
Mon Feb 15, 2021, 02:27 PM
Feb 2021

John Q. most certainly knew Washington. We have a photo of a guy who knew Washington! Suddenly history has shrunken in time!

BobTheSubgenius

(12,217 posts)
24. If that shrinks history, consider this case.
Mon Feb 15, 2021, 04:33 PM
Feb 2021

John Tyler (elected in 1841) had a grandson that is STILL ALIVE! Sibling grandson died in 2012.

That absolutely blew my mind. 2021 back to almost a generation before the Civil War in 2 steps. Incredible.

tavernier

(14,443 posts)
26. Excellent!
Mon Feb 15, 2021, 05:01 PM
Feb 2021

Although I’m quite certain that my great grand children will someday tell their grandchildren that I dated Ben Franklin. I’m a bit of a Ben groupie.

samnsara

(18,767 posts)
5. Im finishing John Adams today...i subscribed to HBO just for that show..
Mon Feb 15, 2021, 01:46 PM
Feb 2021

... Its REALLY good...now I need to go watch Hamilton again as he and Adams did not like each other.

PatSeg

(53,214 posts)
7. I've watched it at least three times
Mon Feb 15, 2021, 01:48 PM
Feb 2021

It is fascinating and I really learned more each time I watched it.

Boomerproud

(9,291 posts)
10. The cult has taken over the reply section. Sick people.
Mon Feb 15, 2021, 01:55 PM
Feb 2021

They ruin everything they touch. Didn't John Quincy Adam's defend the slaves on the Amistad?

Aristus

(72,178 posts)
21. Off the top of my head, I'd say 1847, not long before he died.
Mon Feb 15, 2021, 04:05 PM
Feb 2021

His predecessor, the fifth President James Monroe, is the last President for whom no photograph exists.

catchnrelease

(2,151 posts)
20. I had to laugh
Mon Feb 15, 2021, 04:02 PM
Feb 2021

The comment that said the Adams picture was the Bernie meme without the mask and gloves made me chuckle.

11 Bravo

(24,310 posts)
23. That's not Trump. His saggy ass would be hanging off the edge of the seat, and ...
Mon Feb 15, 2021, 04:15 PM
Feb 2021

his cellulite-ridden thighs are at least three times larger than the one shown in the picture.

keithbvadu2

(40,915 posts)
25. Driver's license photo. We don't look good in those.
Mon Feb 15, 2021, 04:55 PM
Feb 2021

Driver's license photo.

We don't look good in those.

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