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marmar

(79,741 posts)
Mon Feb 15, 2021, 03:19 PM Feb 2021

Florida man, 83, drowns in golf course pond, police say

Admittedly I know little about golf or golf courses, but I never thought those ponds were that deep




An 83-year-old man has drowned at a golf course in Florida, police say.

The individual had entered a pond to try to retrieve a hat while playing a round at the Wycliffe Golf & Country Club in Wellington Saturday, according to the Palm Beach County Sheriff’s Office.

Deputies told the Palm Beach Post that at some point, the man started to thrash around and went underwater. .............(more)

https://www.foxnews.com/us/florida-man-83-drowns-in-golf-course-pond-police-say



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Florida man, 83, drowns in golf course pond, police say (Original Post) marmar Feb 2021 OP
With all the alligators in golf course ponds in Florida, who in his right mind mnhtnbb Feb 2021 #1
Good point! Rorey Feb 2021 #4
I would be more concerned with the concentration of toxic chemicals Arkansas Granny Feb 2021 #7
Over a million gators in FL lakes, ponds, canals... mnhtnbb Feb 2021 #10
A Somewhat Overstated Concerm ProfessorGAC Feb 2021 #28
His MAGA hat blew in the pond doc03 Feb 2021 #2
The edges of these hazards are often mucky. lpbk2713 Feb 2021 #3
They can be slippery. aikoaiko Feb 2021 #5
One can easily drown in a foot of water given the right circumstances... Wounded Bear Feb 2021 #6
There are laws about slope requirements. Baitball Blogger Feb 2021 #8
Very rich area of PBC -- polo country obamanut2012 Feb 2021 #9
Why can't Trump do that ... Ohiogal Feb 2021 #11
Because when Trump hits one into the water, his caddy rushes ahead ... 11 Bravo Feb 2021 #17
Sad and unfortunate treestar Feb 2021 #12
Is it wrong of me to hope it was tRump that fell in and drowned?? a kennedy Feb 2021 #13
When I saw the age I knew I was wrong malaise Feb 2021 #16
Cue the eulogy: "He died doing what he loved most." KY_EnviroGuy Feb 2021 #14
Your hat or your life ?? RANDYWILDMAN Feb 2021 #15
I'll forgive him given his age malaise Feb 2021 #18
They can only win a Darwin Award if they haven't reproduced yet, so at his age he was tblue37 Feb 2021 #20
This is very sad. Someone loved him and he died suddenly. nolabear Feb 2021 #19
If he was lucky, someone loved him. I've worked with Maru Kitteh Feb 2021 #21
Sadly that's true. I hope so too. nolabear Feb 2021 #25
He was playing a round at age 83. lpbk2713 Feb 2021 #27
We don't know how close to death we come each and every day. Kaleva Feb 2021 #22
They are deep genxlib Feb 2021 #23
Now watch this drive. snort Feb 2021 #24
I guess it was his time to go, although being 83 years old, I would have written the hat off as a SWBTATTReg Feb 2021 #26

mnhtnbb

(33,349 posts)
1. With all the alligators in golf course ponds in Florida, who in his right mind
Mon Feb 15, 2021, 03:21 PM
Feb 2021

would wade in to retrieve a hat?

Rorey

(8,514 posts)
4. Good point!
Mon Feb 15, 2021, 03:25 PM
Feb 2021

My ex-husband almost drowned once because his fishing pole went overboard and he fell in when he was retrieving it.

Unfortunately, he survived.

Arkansas Granny

(32,265 posts)
7. I would be more concerned with the concentration of toxic chemicals
Mon Feb 15, 2021, 03:27 PM
Feb 2021

used to maintain the grass that drain into these ponds.

ProfessorGAC

(76,706 posts)
28. A Somewhat Overstated Concerm
Mon Feb 15, 2021, 04:46 PM
Feb 2021

Since that water is used to water the course on 95%+ of golf courses, rain continuously dilute those things.
Also, fertilizers are merely salts that provide root nutrients. They aren't inherently dangerous. Ammonium nitrate, ammonium phosphate and the potassium analogs of those anions are quite safe.
The LD50 (lethal dose for 50% of population so affected) are 2-5g per kg of body weight. Somebody my size would have to eat 3/4ths of a pound of potassium sulfate, in one sitting to hit the LD50.
Herbicides? Yes, you're right. Those are toxic, but they do decompose due to sunlight. So the quantity that is put on the grass doesn't equal the mass in the runoff.
In addition, the very mechanism by which a weed killer works causes the active herbicide to decompose to smaller, less toxic & biodegradable forms. This lowers the runoff concentration even further. And this ignores what stays in the soil until enzymaticallly decomposed by nitrogen fixing bacteria.
EPA laws apply to courses, just like any other business. As they should!
Would your concern been more consistent with the data in the 70s? You bet!
A lot has changed regarding turf agronomy in the last 45 years. In a positive way.
The risk in a course pond from drowning is far greater than the risk of toxic exposure.

lpbk2713

(43,273 posts)
3. The edges of these hazards are often mucky.
Mon Feb 15, 2021, 03:24 PM
Feb 2021


It's likely he got stuck and couldn't get out. Then lost his balance and went in.

Baitball Blogger

(52,350 posts)
8. There are laws about slope requirements.
Mon Feb 15, 2021, 03:32 PM
Feb 2021

As well as issues with depth. But, the property rights nutcases have been able to get away with an interpretation that allows them to do whatever the fuck they want to do it's on private property.

obamanut2012

(29,369 posts)
9. Very rich area of PBC -- polo country
Mon Feb 15, 2021, 03:37 PM
Feb 2021

Old, maybe drunk, and wonder if a gator was involved? I just take a stroke if my ball is too close to a water hazard because of the gators.

11 Bravo

(24,310 posts)
17. Because when Trump hits one into the water, his caddy rushes ahead ...
Mon Feb 15, 2021, 03:53 PM
Feb 2021

pretends to look around, then tosses a ball back into the fairway, and yells, "Found it! You got a great bounce, sir!"

KY_EnviroGuy

(14,782 posts)
14. Cue the eulogy: "He died doing what he loved most."
Mon Feb 15, 2021, 03:43 PM
Feb 2021

The ones I poked around in while in coastal South Carolina hosted 'gators and water moccasins.....


RIP, 'ole boy.........

RANDYWILDMAN

(3,163 posts)
15. Your hat or your life ??
Mon Feb 15, 2021, 03:48 PM
Feb 2021

"You probably get a free bowl of soup if you buy that hat" Rodney from caddyshack

Sounds like a Darwin award winnner

RIP

tblue37

(68,436 posts)
20. They can only win a Darwin Award if they haven't reproduced yet, so at his age he was
Mon Feb 15, 2021, 04:03 PM
Feb 2021

not in the running.

Maru Kitteh

(31,765 posts)
21. If he was lucky, someone loved him. I've worked with
Mon Feb 15, 2021, 04:08 PM
Feb 2021

many seniors who had noone. There's a lot of loneliness out there.


nolabear

(43,850 posts)
25. Sadly that's true. I hope so too.
Mon Feb 15, 2021, 04:34 PM
Feb 2021

I’m troubled by the lightness and snark around his death, whether he’ll ever know or not.

genxlib

(6,136 posts)
23. They are deep
Mon Feb 15, 2021, 04:12 PM
Feb 2021

Because they are used to generate dirt. The dirt from the lakes make the high areas and hills. That is how a flat cow pasture goes from being too low for useful habitation to being a golf course or residential lots.

If they had to bring that much dirt from somewhere else, many of these projects would be cost prohibitive.

SWBTATTReg

(26,257 posts)
26. I guess it was his time to go, although being 83 years old, I would have written the hat off as a
Mon Feb 15, 2021, 04:35 PM
Feb 2021

loss, or got some much younger person to get the the mislaid hat, if such a person could be found who would go into the water w/ possible alligators (and other critters, water moccasins, etc.). He drowned over a $20 dollar hat. How in the hell did he ever get to 83 years old?

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