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A HERETIC I AM

(24,368 posts)
Mon Feb 15, 2021, 11:42 PM Feb 2021

Got this Email from Pilot/Flying J truck stops, re: closings

Last edited Tue Feb 16, 2021, 10:42 AM - Edit history (1)

A list of travel centers closed due to power outages from just this one chain of truck stops;

Store Operations:
The following locations are closed due to power outages.
#79 Denham Springs, Louisiana
#206 Weatherford, Texas
#265 Cookeville, Tennessee
#330 New Braunfels, Texas
#375 Houston, Texas
#434 Forth Worth, Texas
#474 Beasley, Texas
#477 Anna, Texas
#488 Cotulla, Texas
#553 Fort Stockton, Texas
#580 Odessa, Texas
#725 Baytown, Texas
#738 Tye, Texas
#740 Brookshire, Texas
#883 Canton, Texas
#1023 Lufkin, Texas
#1028 Buffalo, Texas
#1105 Bunkie, Louisiana
#1161 Odessa, Texas
#1248 Wilmer, Texas
#1285 Santo, Texas
#1304 Fort Worth, Texas
#3807 Mesquite, Texas


I’m sure similar lists can be had from Love’s and Petro/TA.

This means thousands, (if not hundreds of thousands nationwide) of truckers will be forced to lay up because they can not fuel, much less move down icy interstates.

Keep these hardworking men and women in your thoughts.



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Got this Email from Pilot/Flying J truck stops, re: closings (Original Post) A HERETIC I AM Feb 2021 OP
I would think they'd have back-up power generation. OAITW r.2.0 Feb 2021 #1
Some most certainly do. A HERETIC I AM Feb 2021 #4
The good ones are used to it: ret5hd Feb 2021 #5
I've been doing this same sort of driving for the last 3 weeks A HERETIC I AM Feb 2021 #9
To me, it looks beautiful... ret5hd Feb 2021 #14
Thanks A HERETIC I AM Feb 2021 #24
Reminds me of what the roads around here looked like during the "bomb cyclone" storm niyad Feb 2021 #26
Damn. I'd be white-knuckling it the whole time. That is one tough line of work. SunSeeker Feb 2021 #33
That was fascinating. PoindexterOglethorpe Feb 2021 #47
Kick dalton99a Feb 2021 #2
And if they are out of fuel, they don't have cab heat. ret5hd Feb 2021 #3
Your sentiment is well taken, but keep in mind.... A HERETIC I AM Feb 2021 #6
An O p here in just the last little bit is talking about the TX hotels/motels price-gouging. niyad Feb 2021 #27
It's good that truckers have to lay up. SharonClark Feb 2021 #7
Maybe they are not used to driving in snow and ice. Irish_Dem Feb 2021 #11
A 20 year veteran can be taken by surprise. A HERETIC I AM Feb 2021 #12
Exactly, a white-out can pop up at any time. Black ice as well. Irish_Dem Feb 2021 #13
One of my scariest trips occurred many years ago in CA. I was driving east from Paso Robles, niyad Feb 2021 #29
I've driven in the fog in the Central Valley..... A HERETIC I AM Feb 2021 #30
Ah yes, the infamous tule fog wackadoo wabbit Feb 2021 #35
I hit tule fog one time going to my brother's house in Lafayette from L.A. one Christmas mnhtnbb Feb 2021 #42
Trouble Brewing in Texas .... Stallion Feb 2021 #8
Maybe he can build a fire treestar Feb 2021 #44
There will be deaths, those living on the margins, those with chronic severe illnesses. Irish_Dem Feb 2021 #10
I just did A hotel check for my own information Stallion Feb 2021 #16
Dallas population is 6 million people? Irish_Dem Feb 2021 #17
I Only Checked Oncor-the major enery supplier Stallion Feb 2021 #18
I had no idea Dallas was so huge in terms of population. Irish_Dem Feb 2021 #19
The DFW Metroplex is 4th Largest in Country Stallion Feb 2021 #23
And the entire state is 30 million. Irish_Dem Feb 2021 #25
I Only Checked Oncor-the major enery supplier Stallion Feb 2021 #20
Get ready in case you have a blackout. Irish_Dem Feb 2021 #22
Please be careful if you are out there! MuseRider Feb 2021 #15
Thank goodness the wind is not as bad, so windchill will not dip as low as expected. Irish_Dem Feb 2021 #21
We lost power in part of the house MuseRider Feb 2021 #36
Yes I am concerned about your livestock too. Irish_Dem Feb 2021 #45
I appreciate the kind thoughts A HERETIC I AM Feb 2021 #38
Except for your expertise MuseRider Feb 2021 #41
K&R MustLoveBeagles Feb 2021 #28
My advice is to stay on I80... 2naSalit Feb 2021 #31
Thinking warm thoughts for all mountain grammy Feb 2021 #32
No trucks, grocery store shelves in Texas will empty soon. sarcasmo Feb 2021 #34
My hat's off to you HERETIC, and to the other OTR truckers here on DU. panader0 Feb 2021 #37
Thanks very much. A HERETIC I AM Feb 2021 #39
So how does that work? Will you have to return to your rig when the weather allows? panader0 Feb 2021 #40
I went to Butte to help out where they were short staffed A HERETIC I AM Feb 2021 #43
My cousin's loads are all cancelled due to the freeze. BComplex Feb 2021 #46

OAITW r.2.0

(24,468 posts)
1. I would think they'd have back-up power generation.
Mon Feb 15, 2021, 11:47 PM
Feb 2021

It's probably God's blessing not to be navigating treacherous roads in an 18 wheeler.

A HERETIC I AM

(24,368 posts)
9. I've been doing this same sort of driving for the last 3 weeks
Tue Feb 16, 2021, 12:02 AM
Feb 2021

This was from just the other day, on I-90;

vimeo.com/512784900

ret5hd

(20,491 posts)
14. To me, it looks beautiful...
Tue Feb 16, 2021, 12:14 AM
Feb 2021

I have always loved driving, even in the worst weather. Banged up my share of things, learning to “never-ever-do-THAT-again”, etc. Concentration, a decent set of skills, and more concentration.

Never drove anything bigger than a U-Haul truck though. And I still can’t back a boat trailer onto a boat ramp. But then, I don’t fish.

Be safe!

A HERETIC I AM

(24,368 posts)
24. Thanks
Tue Feb 16, 2021, 12:43 AM
Feb 2021

After 30 + years of OTR, which I can safely and easily say includes well more than 15,000 miles of driving on roads just like that, I learned a valuable lesson the other day!

I by no means think I know everything about being a trucker and winter driving, not by a long shot. The last 3 weeks have taught me how much I still need to learn, even after 3 decades of doing this.

I took a bunch of photos and several vids which I need to upload to a sharing aero, so when I get home and have a chance to do all that, I’ll put up a post in the lounge about the experience.

Suffice to say, the thousands of drivers who are dealing with this weather right now need our consideration.

niyad

(113,302 posts)
26. Reminds me of what the roads around here looked like during the "bomb cyclone" storm
Tue Feb 16, 2021, 12:45 AM
Feb 2021

Two years ago.

SunSeeker

(51,552 posts)
33. Damn. I'd be white-knuckling it the whole time. That is one tough line of work.
Tue Feb 16, 2021, 01:57 AM
Feb 2021

Yet another reason I live in Southern California.

ret5hd

(20,491 posts)
3. And if they are out of fuel, they don't have cab heat.
Mon Feb 15, 2021, 11:50 PM
Feb 2021

And because of the electricity outages all over Texas, I bet there isn’t a vacant hotel/motel room in the state.

A HERETIC I AM

(24,368 posts)
6. Your sentiment is well taken, but keep in mind....
Mon Feb 15, 2021, 11:55 PM
Feb 2021

That any driver with more than a months experience is going to make sure they fuel before they get below a quarter tank, so that leaves plenty for a couple days worth of idling.

But your point is valid. If the engine stalls, the person trying to sleep in that truck could, and history has shown possibly WILL...freeze to death in this type of weather.

SharonClark

(10,014 posts)
7. It's good that truckers have to lay up.
Mon Feb 15, 2021, 11:57 PM
Feb 2021

They’re jack knifed trucks have caused a lot of the severe crashes on interstates this winter. Growing up, I was told trucker were safer drivers than non-professional drivers but that no longer appears to be true.

A HERETIC I AM

(24,368 posts)
12. A 20 year veteran can be taken by surprise.
Tue Feb 16, 2021, 12:10 AM
Feb 2021

If you saw any of the videos of the pileup in Fort Worth the other day, the trucks that slid into that mess weren’t operated by rookies, necessarily.

Not to tell you Anything you already know, but road conditions can change dramatically within only a few yards as to make even the most steady and experienced hand lose control completely

Irish_Dem

(47,053 posts)
13. Exactly, a white-out can pop up at any time. Black ice as well.
Tue Feb 16, 2021, 12:13 AM
Feb 2021

You know what these are, but for others:

A white out where you can not see anything in front of you because of a severe snow storm.
Black ice is invisible ice. You cannot see it until it is too late.

niyad

(113,302 posts)
29. One of my scariest trips occurred many years ago in CA. I was driving east from Paso Robles,
Tue Feb 16, 2021, 12:58 AM
Feb 2021

At night. I heard on my CB, "attention eastbounders" , then nothing. Hit a wall of fog so thick that I could not see past the hood of my car. Strange road, no lights. Finally, miles later, saw dim lights. A small community, convenience store open. As I was asking about a possible room, the big rigs started pulling in. I figured if the truckers were coming in, no way was I going to try to drive. That fog bank did not lift until almost noon the next day.

A HERETIC I AM

(24,368 posts)
30. I've driven in the fog in the Central Valley.....
Tue Feb 16, 2021, 01:21 AM
Feb 2021

And I bet I have driven on the very road you speak. I have delivered cars in Paso Robles!

It never ceases to amaze me how Mother Nature can throw a curveball, from being in gorgeous sunshine with dry roads on one side of a hill, to utter blindness just around the bend.

Stay vigilant, and never drive beyond where you are comfortable.

wackadoo wabbit

(1,166 posts)
35. Ah yes, the infamous tule fog
Tue Feb 16, 2021, 04:37 AM
Feb 2021

I used to frequently travel from the Bay Area down to L.A., and I drove that same road from Paso Robles to — what was it? — Buttonwillow. And I got caught in that fog many times.

The worst time was when I was on I-5 one night and drove into a fog bank that was so thick that I literally couldn't see the front of my VW bug (which, as you probably remember, didn't have a very large hood). I pulled over behind an overpass (as best as I could determine in that heavy fog), climbed into the back seat of my bug, and went to sleep. In the backseat of a VW bug.

It's a good thing I'm short.

mnhtnbb

(31,388 posts)
42. I hit tule fog one time going to my brother's house in Lafayette from L.A. one Christmas
Tue Feb 16, 2021, 09:48 AM
Feb 2021

Cars still zooming past me when I couldn't see much past the hood of my car. Was just about to try and pull over--which the idea of trying to scared me when I couldn't see cars coming--when, boom, gone, no more fog. Just like that. Very scary driving.

Stallion

(6,474 posts)
8. Trouble Brewing in Texas ....
Mon Feb 15, 2021, 11:59 PM
Feb 2021

the store shelfs have been cleaned out, fast food restaurants have hour long waits and no electricity for many other restaurants, I foresee some real problems if trucking services are not operating at full speed. We got at least 2 more days in the deep freeze and as many as 35% of Dallas area electricity customers do not have electricity. One guy who interviewed noted that he bought a bunch of microwave dinners which are useless without electricity

treestar

(82,383 posts)
44. Maybe he can build a fire
Tue Feb 16, 2021, 10:25 AM
Feb 2021

Makes me think of a hank Williams jr song about country boys knowing what to do. When city ones do not.

Irish_Dem

(47,053 posts)
10. There will be deaths, those living on the margins, those with chronic severe illnesses.
Tue Feb 16, 2021, 12:05 AM
Feb 2021

And it appears regular Texans who do not have the ability to stay warm are in dire circumstances.

Stallion

(6,474 posts)
16. I just did A hotel check for my own information
Tue Feb 16, 2021, 12:25 AM
Feb 2021

On Travelocity there were about 3-4 poorly rated hotels showing availsbility on a Monday nite in the entire city of Dallas. The numbers without heat are enormous-30-40% of all customers

Irish_Dem

(47,053 posts)
17. Dallas population is 6 million people?
Tue Feb 16, 2021, 12:29 AM
Feb 2021

And 30-40% are without heat in a frigid winter storm tonight?

Unbelievable.

Sending as many prayers as I can.
I wish I could do more.

Stallion

(6,474 posts)
18. I Only Checked Oncor-the major enery supplier
Tue Feb 16, 2021, 12:34 AM
Feb 2021

and they are showing between 30-40% of customers out of electricity in Dallas County and my North Dallas zip code. Temperatures predicted to be about 2 degrees in city and much colder in country

Irish_Dem

(47,053 posts)
19. I had no idea Dallas was so huge in terms of population.
Tue Feb 16, 2021, 12:36 AM
Feb 2021

That is a lot of people to try to keep warm tonight.

I hope something can be done.

Stallion

(6,474 posts)
23. The DFW Metroplex is 4th Largest in Country
Tue Feb 16, 2021, 12:40 AM
Feb 2021
I believe it up to about 6.8 million to 7 million-fastes growing in total numbers in country

Irish_Dem

(47,053 posts)
25. And the entire state is 30 million.
Tue Feb 16, 2021, 12:43 AM
Feb 2021

Over a lot of territory.

The governor has his work cut out for him tonight and tomorrow.
I hope he is up to the job.

Stallion

(6,474 posts)
20. I Only Checked Oncor-the major enery supplier
Tue Feb 16, 2021, 12:36 AM
Feb 2021

and they are showing between 30-40% of customers out of electricity in Dallas County and my North Dallas zip code. Temperatures predicted to be about 2 degrees in city and much colder in country. So far 'I've been lucky with no blackouts

Irish_Dem

(47,053 posts)
22. Get ready in case you have a blackout.
Tue Feb 16, 2021, 12:39 AM
Feb 2021

Lots of good suggestions here on how to prepare just in case.

MuseRider

(34,109 posts)
15. Please be careful if you are out there!
Tue Feb 16, 2021, 12:19 AM
Feb 2021

Thankfully we are supposed to be coming out of this after tomorrow. I just got in from my last check of the horses and it is so darned cold. I am forever grateful that this long cold snap (frigid cold snap) has not seen the wind they expected. The wind chills were bad but not as bad as they could have been. I am certainly over trying to walk and do work in -25 wc but it could have been and was supposed to be much worse. SO, you be careful. I know you are but as you said above it can change so quickly. Apparently they have found frozen people in the city I live close to when they lost heat so...stay warm no matter what.

Irish_Dem

(47,053 posts)
21. Thank goodness the wind is not as bad, so windchill will not dip as low as expected.
Tue Feb 16, 2021, 12:38 AM
Feb 2021

Please be safe yourself. You are not used to farming in such cold weather.

MuseRider

(34,109 posts)
36. We lost power in part of the house
Tue Feb 16, 2021, 08:13 AM
Feb 2021

But we are fine. Tonight was the worst of it. It is - 15 right now, does not seem like the wind is blowing. I just hope my critters are OK. The horses we're cold but OK and sheltered and the goats as well. Farrier called last night to check on everyone's feet.... that was a new one. I think I will wait to go out for a little while. Lol. Warming trend starts this afternoon!!!

Irish_Dem

(47,053 posts)
45. Yes I am concerned about your livestock too.
Tue Feb 16, 2021, 10:39 AM
Feb 2021

Yes at least they are sheltered in a barn.
I guess animals can get frostbite in their feet and toes like humans.
So that is why the vet is concerned.

Do you have hay you could lay in the stalls?
Would that help?

My mother's family are dairy farmers in northern Wisconsin and I recall as a kid
the boys would lay hay in the cow stalls in the winter.

I hope the temp starts to climb for you this afternoon.

MuseRider

(34,109 posts)
41. Except for your expertise
Tue Feb 16, 2021, 09:33 AM
Feb 2021

they are safer than you are because they do not depend on other people to pay attention or do the right thing. Be safe.

2naSalit

(86,602 posts)
31. My advice is to stay on I80...
Tue Feb 16, 2021, 01:22 AM
Feb 2021

They still have a way to deal with cold winter. This nasty arctic air mass is headed east so when you head south, be ready for the same in eastern states south of I80.

panader0

(25,816 posts)
37. My hat's off to you HERETIC, and to the other OTR truckers here on DU.
Tue Feb 16, 2021, 08:30 AM
Feb 2021

Back in the early days of the pandemic, people across the nation began to have a greater appreciation
of the vital service done by you guys (and gals). Be safe out there!

A HERETIC I AM

(24,368 posts)
39. Thanks very much.
Tue Feb 16, 2021, 08:58 AM
Feb 2021

I’m flying the rest of the way home today, so I’m fortunate not to have to drive in any of it today.

panader0

(25,816 posts)
40. So how does that work? Will you have to return to your rig when the weather allows?
Tue Feb 16, 2021, 09:05 AM
Feb 2021

Where did you have to leave it?

A HERETIC I AM

(24,368 posts)
43. I went to Butte to help out where they were short staffed
Tue Feb 16, 2021, 10:12 AM
Feb 2021

So the trucks I drove were already on the routes.

When I get home I’ll drive any of the available units in our yard.

I drive a different truck almost every trip I make.

What we do makes assigned trucks impractical for the majority of our routes

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