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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsHere's a serious question about right-wingers in the US
...And I guess anywhere in the world where they have become a danger to ordinary people.
Why do they believe that physical strength, unlimited weapons and unbridled belligerence is the solution to a 'free' society when it is obvious that their intent is to intimidate and frighten other humans and make them fear for their physical existence?
There are a thousand contradictions in their myopic, short-term view that 'survival of the fittest' is the natural state of affairs.
So here is the question; is it their life ambition to crawl to the apex of the rotting heap of bones that represents those who have fallen by the republican, idealogical wayside.
And if it is....how fucking sad and frightening is that.
Walleye
(31,002 posts)elleng
(130,857 posts)See Prof. Lakoff on the 'Mama' vs the 'Papa' mentality.
https://www.berkeley.edu/news/media/releases/2003/10/27_lakoff.shtml
A subject that interests me.
yonder
(9,663 posts)I've tons of respect for George Lakoff's work as he has had his finger on the pulse of what needs to be done for years. One day we will get our own Frank Luntz's of messaging. Or, we have them but don't concentrate on framing.
RKP5637
(67,102 posts)Progressive Jones
(6,011 posts)has a glaring and obvious dumbass side to them. I have to assume that this is just a right wing trait.
I'm no genius, but my mistakes in life don't hurt people.
Mr.Bill
(24,267 posts)Their weakness is thinking they are smarter than everyone else.
napi21
(45,806 posts)is the solution to a 'free' society ?"
They aren't looking for a free society. Their total aim is "THEIR POWER OVER OTHERS". Think about all the bills they propose, & the arguments they make. Tax Cuts (more money/more power) Their hatred of progessives is because progressives try to help the little guy get ahead; try to even the playing field; treat everyone equally.
The Right Wingers want: power over everyone else; all the money because money is power; rule by fear.
Their idea of freedom is the freedom to dominate others they think are lesser. It's white supremacy first and foremost. These grudges go back to Reconstruction. They tried to recreate slavery with Jim Crow, and so they felt humiliated again in the Civil Rights Movement. Once again they feel threatened by the BLM movement - how dare these uppity (word I won't use) think they can object to white policemen's natural right to kill them?
That's what's at the heart of it. How dare uppity immigrants who aren't white and might not even speak English think they have a right to a place here? How dare uppity people who aren't straight or cisgendered act like they have a right to tell people to stop demeaning and murdering them, and treat them as fellow humans? How dare Jews call out ancient anti-Semitic conspiracy theories for the BS that they are?
The "liberty" they want is the liberty to subjugate and/or kill everyone who doesn't conform to their ideal of an all-white, Christian-dominionist, patriarchal society.
Withywindle
(9,988 posts)I'm a mixed-race queer woman of a minority religion that's not Christianity, daughter of an immigrant, working-class. Their utopia is my dystopia.
They think their "freedom" is at risk if people like me get a shot at equality at the table. I guess maybe they imagine we'll treat them like they treated us, if we get power.
We won't. I disapprove of police brutality, forced sterilizations, wink-wink-nudge sanctioned rape, "conversion therapy" and hate crimes of all sorts regardless of who the victims are.
Buckeye_Democrat
(14,853 posts)... the "good old days" before their more intelligent brethren invented spears and tamed fire.
Edit: Then they went on spear killing sprees when they finally adopted that particular technology.
I'll side with the scientists, only 6% of whom identified themselves as Republicans in a poll from nearly a decade ago. (Maybe even lower now.) Brains will always conquer brute force.
unblock
(52,181 posts)They see the world as a scary place. Black people scary. Spanish accent scary. Strange religions scary.
So they need to defend themselves with weaponry. Most right-wingers think they're only protecting themselves, but heir family, maybe their neighborhood. they think they need to be heavily armed to accomplish this. They think a display of heavy arms will deter all these potential threats.
They really don't think they're intimidating anyone other than bad guys. Good people are grateful for their protection, which they are nobly offering at risk of their own life. Bad people are scared but if you're not a bad person you have nothing to fear from them.
That's the way they think.
They are completely dismissive of the notion that good people might be horrified at having to trust their lives to a stranger's split second judgement or ability to avoid an accident.
If you're intimidated or uncomfortable around guns, they think you need to get over it because the world out there is scary and guns are how you protect yourself.
Of course, blacks people aren't scary, but they think they need guns for that. And when something actually scary comes along, like a lethal virus, they're suddenly all, "cool, where can I get that and spread it around so more people die!"
Hekate
(90,627 posts)As best I can tell, those at both ends (right and left) are driven by anger and by fear. Now it turns out that the propaganda machinery embedded in social media stokes it day and night as well, and also encourages people to get into tight self-reinforcing groups.
Someone upthread gave a good answer expanding on the fear aspect.
I think its a worldwide phenomenon, a recurrence of what happened between the World Wars: widespread socioeconomic instability, and the rise of the right wing in its manifestations of Fascism and Nazism and Stalinism. We had it here, as well there was a big Bund meeting in New York City, the anti-Semitic radio star Father Coughlin spewed his stuff, and the KKK was very active. My late mother remembered all of that era vividly, as it encompassed her childhood and teens.
I was among those fortunate to grow up post-war in a time of expansion and optimism and a general belief that we would just keep progressing. To some of us white people the Civil Rights movement looked like more indications of progress.
And this, by the way, should not be minimized we had a common, unifying enemy in the USSR. We could measure ourselves against them our actual freedoms against their actual oppression. (When I hear the MAGAts bellowing that their freedoms are being taken away, I just cant believe the utter stupidity and ignorance.)
But that was then and this is now. Right-wing authoritarian movements are on the rise in nearly every country of the planet in the early 21st century, as far as I can tell. Its not just the US, its the countries of the EU. South America, Asia. Putins destabilizing hand is present, to be sure, but he is not alone in wanting money and power and for no one to tell them No. China is ascendent and most Americans have not a clue.
Money, power, and no one to say no. Religion is useful, very useful, at least in the US. Racism, coded or not, is useful as hell. So the big thugs use all these means to stir up the smaller thugs. And at a certain point, you really do wonder if they plan to pile up bones and call it victory.
I was supposed to go to bed, but my thoughts ran away from me. Apologies for rambling, but you asked a good question, and its one I have pondered too.
Good night!
Hermit-The-Prog
(33,313 posts)Aristus
(66,310 posts)Fascism, Nazism, and Stalinism are all extremist, but Stalinism is extreme left-wing, not extreme right-wing.
Hekate
(90,627 posts)Aristus
(66,310 posts)n/t
pwb
(11,258 posts)Fake tough punks is all they are.