Tue Feb 16, 2021, 02:42 AM
jorgevlorgan (5,261 posts)
At a certain point, states should be required to acknowledge climate change to receive federal
support for climate change related disasters. Texas is all about means testing people to receive emergency aid for individuals, right? How about when it comes to emergency aid for natural disasters that they helped perpetuate through decades of denial of the root cause, and refusing to do nothing to change?
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jorgevlorgan | Feb 2021 | OP |
JI7 | Feb 2021 | #1 | |
mr_lebowski | Feb 2021 | #2 | |
jorgevlorgan | Feb 2021 | #4 | |
JI7 | Feb 2021 | #5 | |
jorgevlorgan | Feb 2021 | #6 | |
jorgevlorgan | Feb 2021 | #3 | |
DanieRains | Feb 2021 | #7 |
Response to jorgevlorgan (Original post)
Tue Feb 16, 2021, 02:48 AM
JI7 (86,286 posts)
1. That would mean punishing 46 percent of people that voted for Joe Biden and an even larger
percentage that voted for Beto O'Rourke.
And it's Republicans who do mass punishment . I do think we need to bring up the issue. I remember some years back some people started attacking us for even bringing up the hypocrisy . I think most of these were right wing trolls . |
Response to JI7 (Reply #1)
Tue Feb 16, 2021, 02:52 AM
mr_lebowski (26,687 posts)
2. Not to mention there's not much utility in them just saying 'okay, it's real, now show me the $'
If we could make the state actually DO SOMETHING about reducing emissions thru these means ... then we'd be talking.
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Response to mr_lebowski (Reply #2)
Tue Feb 16, 2021, 02:54 AM
jorgevlorgan (5,261 posts)
4. That's more kind of what I mean.
And albeit through a reasonable timeline. Not "Do this right now, or we're going to let everybody die."
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Response to mr_lebowski (Reply #2)
Tue Feb 16, 2021, 02:56 AM
JI7 (86,286 posts)
5. Like perhaps a program where if States do x , y , z etc then they will get certain funds
So it would be a program to support certain measures and states that implement it will get funding from that program.
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Response to JI7 (Reply #5)
Tue Feb 16, 2021, 03:00 AM
jorgevlorgan (5,261 posts)
6. More what I had in mind, for sure.
Response to JI7 (Reply #1)
Tue Feb 16, 2021, 02:53 AM
jorgevlorgan (5,261 posts)
3. Not if you set a clear timeline with enough time for the state to adapt to the required changes
and for voters to respond to the issue. At a certain point, it doesn't make sense to keep letting them create the conditions that cause the problems while siphoning more and more federal money then complain about the debt as a political weapon. I think there's a way to push them in the direction, even if not completely, while not even entirely holding out on the aid, but getting them to be put on some kind of improvement plan to continue receiving it 10 years down the road.
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Response to jorgevlorgan (Original post)
Tue Feb 16, 2021, 03:12 AM
DanieRains (4,591 posts)
7. Lots Of Us Pay More So Texas Rednecks Can Pollute All They Want
Not all that fair.
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