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kentuck

(111,051 posts)
Tue Feb 16, 2021, 07:54 AM Feb 2021

Why 75% of Republicans still support Trump having a role in their Party?

Basically, many are on a guilt trip. They saw what happened at our Capitol. They know Donald Trump was guilty of inciting the mob. And they know they are complicit.

So now they are in denial. They cannot accept their traitorous actions as unpatriotic and un-American. Many are struggling to rationalize their roles in the attack upon our nation's Capitol.

They minimize the insurrection, as Senator Ron Johnson has done, and say it was a big "nothing burger". But the self-deception and the lies do not change the facts.

No amount of rationalization can change the fact that they are all guilty. They can pretend it was a patriotic act and that they were showing the "libs" that they were not going to take it anymore and the next time they will be back with guns, but all the hot air and threats do not change the fact that they are all accomplices in an insurrection against the government of the United States.

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Why 75% of Republicans still support Trump having a role in their Party? (Original Post) kentuck Feb 2021 OP
tRump continues to lose support across the board... 634-5789 Feb 2021 #1
he was at 5 to 10% when he came down the escalator Cosmocat Feb 2021 #8
I'll take the bet that 634-5789 Feb 2021 #11
+1, it's text book cult and the other have are text book sunk cost fallacy uponit7771 Feb 2021 #14
And what may be even crazier...... MyOwnPeace Feb 2021 #2
I agree arlyellowdog Feb 2021 #3
I think many feel zero guilt. I think many only feel regret that the coup failed. Celerity Feb 2021 #4
Carl Sagan said it best Shermann Feb 2021 #5
+1, uponit7771 Feb 2021 #13
They're re-grouping... Fyrefox Feb 2021 #6
Its really just a small push to rid the party of the VERY small portion of elected officials Cosmocat Feb 2021 #9
Not an iota of Buyers' Remorse no_hypocrisy Feb 2021 #7
Daddy issues superpatriotman Feb 2021 #10
Text Book Sunk Cost Fallacy !! Most are **VERY** vested in being right about Trump and admitting uponit7771 Feb 2021 #12
As a Democrat I am torn. Johnny2X2X Feb 2021 #15

634-5789

(4,175 posts)
1. tRump continues to lose support across the board...
Tue Feb 16, 2021, 08:00 AM
Feb 2021

...He's a has been. I know it looks like he's still important at this point, but it's a mirage. Giver it 5-6 months and he will be nothing more than a memory to most Americans. Sure, there will still be the MAGAts, Nazis, Proud Boys, but they will also be a tiny minority. That being said, the 43 TeapubliKKKans that stood with the Orange Moron are unexcused from punishment at the polls.

Cosmocat

(14,558 posts)
8. he was at 5 to 10% when he came down the escalator
Tue Feb 16, 2021, 08:47 AM
Feb 2021

and had the republican nomination in a choke hold within 6 months.

As long as he is breathing and not behind bars, he owns that party and will not relinquish that hold because he is the most repugnant, immoral person imaginable, which is the north star for the party now. Everyone else is just trying to outdo themselves to be the next in line.

634-5789

(4,175 posts)
11. I'll take the bet that
Tue Feb 16, 2021, 11:55 AM
Feb 2021

he's forgotten by 2022. There's too many other wannabees to take his place. We'll see.

MyOwnPeace

(16,917 posts)
2. And what may be even crazier......
Tue Feb 16, 2021, 08:01 AM
Feb 2021

some are going after those RepubliQons who voted against IQ45. Here in Pennsylvania I know of 2 county RepubliQon committees that have voted to censure Senator Pat Toomey, even though he's carried their 'water buckets' (more like bed pans) for years.

Guilt - shame?

Hell, NO!

STUPID!!!!!!

arlyellowdog

(866 posts)
3. I agree
Tue Feb 16, 2021, 08:07 AM
Feb 2021

(In truth, I’m wrong a lot) but all the Republicans I know act like they have never even heard of Trump, let alone voted for him. But they did. I know at least 3 women who say their husbands say they never “really” supported Trump. However, I can say in this forum: they voted for him to be president of the United States, dumbasses.

Celerity

(43,073 posts)
4. I think many feel zero guilt. I think many only feel regret that the coup failed.
Tue Feb 16, 2021, 08:21 AM
Feb 2021

Over half of the Rethugs are avowed white power fascists at heart. They don't want to own the libs, they want to to KILL the libs, along with us PoC and LGBTQ folk.

As fucked as the Rethugs in the US Senate, then the worse Rethugs in the US House, are, the STATE and COUNTY and CITY Rethug QMAGAts are exponentially worse.

I GUARANTEE there are HUNDREDS (perhaps thousands) of low level official ReQMAGA vermin who, IF they had a gun(s) on the US House or US Senate floor and thought they had a good shot at multiple kills, WOULD take out VP Harris, Pelosi, Schumer, AOC, Warren, Maxine Waters, Omar, Booker, Sanders, etc etc etc. Also they would, if they were able to, go after all Rethugs who voted to impeach or convict neonazi KKKlanner Rump.

Shermann

(7,399 posts)
5. Carl Sagan said it best
Tue Feb 16, 2021, 08:23 AM
Feb 2021

“One of the saddest lessons of history is this: If we’ve been bamboozled long enough, we tend to reject any evidence of the bamboozle. We’re no longer interested in finding out the truth. The bamboozle has captured us. It’s simply too painful to acknowledge, even to ourselves, that we’ve been taken. Once you give a charlatan power over you, you almost never get it back.”

― Carl Sagan, The Demon-Haunted World: Science as a Candle in the Dark

Fyrefox

(300 posts)
6. They're re-grouping...
Tue Feb 16, 2021, 08:29 AM
Feb 2021

Republicans have a conscience that is rudimentary at best, and really only care about winning and maintaining themselves in office and their party in control. They are remarkably ingenious and resourceful when engaging in self-justification. They are still warily and fearfully watching Trump to see if he can rekindle, and if not, they'll find and embrace a "new, improved" version of his ideology...

Cosmocat

(14,558 posts)
9. Its really just a small push to rid the party of the VERY small portion of elected officials
Tue Feb 16, 2021, 08:51 AM
Feb 2021

who are not insane.

People REALLY underestimate how far gone the party is, elected officials and average citizens.

90%+ are either perfectly fine or full on board with where this is headed.

uponit7771

(90,301 posts)
12. Text Book Sunk Cost Fallacy !! Most are **VERY** vested in being right about Trump and admitting
Tue Feb 16, 2021, 12:44 PM
Feb 2021

... they were wrong means they give a ton of credibility to themselves.

Family ties, their own trust in character judgement, ideals etc ... etc.

Johnny2X2X

(18,968 posts)
15. As a Democrat I am torn.
Tue Feb 16, 2021, 12:53 PM
Feb 2021

Trump is a loser, he lost the popular vote twice, he lost his party the House, and the Senate. Dems made big gains in the states because of him. So that part of me says, let them follow Trump off the cliff, never interrupt your opponent when they're making a mistake.

But another part of me says he is too dangerous to allow to be the head of a party. Weird things happen, like in 2016, who knows what 2024 could have in store. I do know that if something happened and trump got back in, America would be finished, we barely survived his first 4 years.

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